Re: So, question for the coot lurkers

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Re: You are living with it... (long)

Feb 23, 2014, 7:21 PM

All valid points. First, to say that our recruiting is worse than in the past is only opinion. We finished with the highest avg per star ever in our history this year and was among one of the highest in the country. No we didn't have a flashy 5 star guy to headline the class, or 30+ recruits but our depth and quality of depth is excellent. 2015 is starting off excellent and we are in with most of our top prospects. Our coaching staff has proven to be excellent at evaluating and developing talent. We will never recruit top 10 classes every year like bama, uga, florida, but somehow we are currently able to complete with, and beat teams of that caliber regularly. We have put many players in the nfl recently, with many of them making instant impacts, which is very appealing to recruits going forward. Our facilities, despite what many on here say, are constantly getting better and better. (I know majority of fans don't actually go to our game every year so they just believe everything they read online about it being terrible) Spurrier is getting older, but he already leaves most recruiting to his assistants anyway and play calling is no longer just him either. Even if he retires from coaching in 4 or 5 years he isn't going anywhere. He personally added to his contract that he become a special advisor to the AD and will continue to influence many football related activities similar to what Ray Tanner still does with baseball. Not sure how we are on the backside, or trending down, when we have finished 8, 7, and 4 respectively over the last 3 years. Seems to me that's trending up. We do lose some key pieces, like CB's, De's, and a QB. We recruited heavily in the CB position and we will be very young and vulnerable there. We are a little thin at DE but have rotated many players in during the 2013 season and some big time recruits come in for depth. QB my be our biggest loss but we have a somewhat proven guy back there in Thompson(more so than Stoudt IMO.) He has had some close calls, and shaw bailed him out once, but DT has never lost a game. Also, like clemson, we have 2 highly ranked 4* qb recruits that we hope pan out, but have no idea how good they are that will challenge for time. Even if DT isn't as good as shaw, we have many rb's that are proven to be very good. So all in all, our O should be as good if not better considering the return of the O line, rb's, both te's, and only losing 1 receiver. The D, which has been the strong point of our team the last few years will be good up front again but not as good as the last 2-3 years. The lb's were excellent the 2nd half of the year and look to be even better after putting on some weight. The safeties return but like I said the CB's will be a weak point unless some of our recruits step up. That's being realistic. I don't think that just because we have 4 4* cb's that they will come in, start and be good enough in year 1 but we have to hope 1-2 are. We have been very close the last 3 years to getting back to the secc and there is no reason to think any team in the east will be clearly better than us in 2014. The 2 biggest threats are uga and mizzou, and we get both at home where we are extremely hard to beat right now. Can't win the sec unless you win the division first so that's the first goal. Second is to win the games we are favored in. That has cost us each of the last 3 years, where we win the tough games but lose to one team we shouldn't. That's enough about my team as I know this is a clemson board. I do enjoy reading and posting when fans can talk football and not get into a pissing contest.

I will turn the question back to you. This was one of clemsons best teams in recent history yet they were embarrassed by fsu, and lost to South Carolina(the 2 best teams on their schedule at years end). Beating OSU was big as it was in the bcs. Going forward, it appears fsu is only going to put more distance between them and clemson as they can recruit top 5 classes every year and clemson realistically can't compete with the talent in florida. You have to play at fsu, at uga, a couple tough games like unc and of course finish with the gamecocks. How does the future look as far as winning the division again, the conference, or getting into a playoff.?

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We finished higher than all but one of those teams...so the gap isn't there you speak of. You also seem to put more stock into a recruiting ranking more than actual on the field results and end of the year rankings. Again, what good does it do for clemson to "out-recruit" us every year if we keep winning on the field? Just shows recruiting only means something if the players can work together and if the coaches can get them to perform as good as their stars would indicate. Besides Clowney and Alshon, the best players against clemson the last few years have been shaw, ellington, sanders, miles, thompson, and so on. All players that you would not consider recruits as good as yours yet they have better on the field results and especially head to head. Clemson and FSU, for example is a different story. Uga, lsu, ut, bama, uf, have always recruited better than us but we are beating most of those teams on a regular basis. That just doesn't add up does it if recruiting is the end all be all? FSU out-recruits clemson by a mile according to the sites, but they also outplay clemson by a mile on the field. FSU is winning titles and has much more money, resources, history, recruiting hot beds, etc. That's tough for any team in the country to compete with. Plus, you have to play them on the road next year where clemson has not done well. Meanwhile, we get uga, mizzou, ut at home next year where those teams haven't beaten us in half a decade at least and not many players on any team in the country can say they have won on the road. SO as far as next year, I would much rather be in our position than yours. Basically your season could be over week 4 at 1-2(or it could set you up for a dream season). That has to be tough to swallow considering the toughest games are on the road. To answer your quetsion yes it is harder to have to beat 5 teams compared to 1, but that's just life in our conference. we chose that and have to deal with it. The financial benefits greatly outweigh the negatives and the gap financially will only continue to grow between us and clemson for the forseeable future.

So, question for the coot lurkers

The faster you run the faster you can get out

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Meanwhile, in the streets of Cootlumbia

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I've been impressed with B. Ellington, just glad he's gone

I imagine you're being objective?

Whether it's objective (based on factually losing some of

To my best ability. If I'm wrong, prove me otherwise and I

Shaw did so much that will be hard yo duplicate. Not saying

none...no coot logic here***