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Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Legend [6754]
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Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
Dec 4, 2024, 11:13 AM
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What would they have to lose? Committee has already said they aren't going to drop teams that don't play. Why not opt out, guarantee your spot in the playoffs because you KNOW the committee is going to punish them for losing (even though it's insane that they would do so) and keep Alabama in while dropping SMU out.
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Head Coach [944]
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I've really thought about this... I think this became a legit question as soon
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:16 AM
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as the Chair said publicly that SMU could fall below Alabama.
Obviously they won't opt out... but we we beat them and they drop below Alabama, you will see it very soon, if not next year.
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Game Changer [1777]
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:24 AM
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To opt out is to lose and to lose by opt out would mean they would drop like a rock as they should.
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Legend [6754]
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Well...the committee said they aren't going to punish teams that don't play...
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:26 AM
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I know they won't opt out, but I find it pathetic that the committee won't change rankings for teams that don't play but will punish a team that plays an extra game...
Committee shouldn't have said those teams that don't play won't be adjusted..they definitely should be based on what happens championship weekend.
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Dynasty Maker [3388]
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Re: Well...the committee said they aren't going to punish teams that don't play...
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Dec 4, 2024, 12:30 PM
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The committee said they won’t punish teams for playing in the conference championship. SMU won’t drop out with a loss.
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Head Coach [944]
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The Chair explicitly said last night that it was possible for SMU to drop below
Dec 4, 2024, 12:34 PM
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Alabama if they lose to Clemson
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:26 AM
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I think the only possible way the committee drops SMU below Bama is if the tigers can find a way to blow them out. I'm talking 42-7. Something along those lines.
I do not see that happening. I'm not even confident we beat SMU. That being said if it's a competitive game and the tigers win, the committee cannot move them below Bama and have any sort of integrity.
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Legend [6754]
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:29 AM
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I'm with you--definitely not confident that we'll win. I'd just be nervous if I was SMU because you know they aren't getting the same respect as some other teams whose name starts with Alabama, lol. How they only dropped a few spots after getting demolished by Oklahoma (same with Ohio State getting thumped by a crappy Michigan team) shows the committee either simply doesn't watch games, or has their own agenda in their ranking choices.
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Head Coach [944]
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The committee chair flat out said that SMU could fall below Bama...
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Dec 4, 2024, 11:56 AM
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He said two things that, IMO, were alarming.
1. We won't adjust any of the teams not playing this weekend. They are done.
2. It's possible SMU falls below Bama if they lose.
Wth say those things publicly?
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Hall of Famer [8244]
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Re: The committee chair flat out said that SMU could fall below Bama...
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Dec 4, 2024, 12:09 PM
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They say those things publicly so the rest of the country can accept that these two POS conferences destroyed the sport
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Campus Hero [14061]
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They lost their integrity last year
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Dec 4, 2024, 12:40 PM
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Prior to that I thought they had done a good job, but FSU getting left out for Bama over a theoretical drop off in quality was insane.
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
Dec 4, 2024, 11:27 AM
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Yeah, they should drop out. That way the conference can claw back the tv rights paid to them for being a conference member. Oh yeah….SMU chose to join the conference and agree to not take any tv revenue.
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I would rather play #17 Clemson and attempt for a BYE instead of
Dec 4, 2024, 11:28 AM
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risking it and playing:
at Oregon/ND/PSU and then the remainder of the playoff all in a row without many breaks.
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Legend [6754]
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Re: I would rather play #17 Clemson and attempt for a BYE instead of
Dec 4, 2024, 11:31 AM
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I agree with this 100%, just can see teams in the future (maybe those not guaranteed a bye with a win in a championship game) weighing the odds if the committee sticks to their stupid "we won't punish teams who don't play" mantra.
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
Dec 4, 2024, 11:33 AM
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The only way to opt out is to forfeit. That would be a guaranteed drop.
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Associate AD [1047]
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
Dec 4, 2024, 2:40 PM
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"Not playing" in that context means not having a game.
Opting out is forfeiting a game you are meant to play.
Apples and Oranges.
I get the point you are making. But they should have just chosen their words better. Their intention is that the teams who did not make it to a Conference Championship game does not have another dataset so they are fixed where they are in relation to each other. (Teams that didn't make it cannot move up past or drop lower than other teams that didn't make it)
EX: Alabama will always be ahead of SCAR regardless of the weekends outcome. They could still both drop depending on the outcome. If Clemson wins, they would jump them both and the committee could decide to slide SMU down a couple spots, knocking all below teams down.
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Paw Master [17860]
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no but if that happens
Dec 4, 2024, 12:12 PM
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then the acc in the off season should drop the conference title game. because it will be clear that big and sec conference title participants wont be punished but acc and big 12 will if they lose
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Rival Killer [2909]
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You beat me to it. I agree completely.
Dec 4, 2024, 12:29 PM
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The ACCCG is just a guaranteed loss for a good team.
Decide the conference title by best record, then head to head result, and if still tied, award co champions.
Then in to the playoffs, which are what really matters.
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Team Captain [496]
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
Dec 4, 2024, 12:25 PM
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Interesting as we always heard the committee looks at it as a clean slate every week and now the Chair tells us no adjustment
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They are going to be the Designated SEC Screwee, if we win that game. That is
Dec 4, 2024, 12:39 PM
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just flat out wrong, but that is what the SEC driven Playoff Committee will do. They finally came out of the closet when they bumped Bama up to 11, with THREE losses. Even if we beat them, SMU would still have only TWO losses, and deserve to be in the final 12.
Committee says anyone ranked below 12 gets no further consideration. That, too is just wrong.
I would say, the answer is to go on to sixteen teams. But, we know if we did that, it is just probably 3 more spots for the SEC, and one more for the BIG. The system is rigged, with artificial rankings, and bloated narratives about how tough all these SEC juggernauts are.
I'm about that just like I am about the narrative that Joe Biden still had all his mental faculties. I believe what I see, not what you tell me I see.
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Well right now they are 100% in
Dec 4, 2024, 12:48 PM
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and playing in the ACCCG can only lower those odds. They would 100% be better off not playing, but I'm sure they would be punishe severely. If for no other reason than it would cost ABC/ESPN millions of dollars and would likely cause the ACC to breach their contract with the network. I don't even know what the ACC would do - the most logical thing would probably be to replace SMU with Miami.
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Much of this entire thread is speculation about
Dec 4, 2024, 1:19 PM
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something that can't happen. Teams play for championships to get into the playoffs. The game is part of the process - nowhere has it been said that teams can skip a required game. And the committee was referring to the teams who CAN'T play this weekend who were pretty much locked where they are currently. I still think they will drop a losing team who gets blown out this week as their stated METRIC could drop below that of a team that does not play - regardless of what he said. (WHATEVER HE MEANS BY METRIC).
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National Champion [7897]
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Clemson will win but it will be a close game all the way
Dec 4, 2024, 2:14 PM
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which will help SMU
If our Tigers beat them handily, which I do not think will happen, it would be scary heading into the final CFP
IMO, SMU is in CFP regardless of win or lose ACCCG
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Dec 4, 2024, 2:54 PM
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Alabama and Notre Dme already opted out of any championship game.
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Orange Blooded [2100]
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Re: Should SMU opt out of the ACCCG?
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Dec 4, 2024, 2:57 PM
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If SMU can't beat Clemson... what business do they have in the playoffs?
Plus that first round bye is a nice cherry on top for them if they win.
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