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Re: Saban nails it!
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Oct 23, 2025, 1:39 PM
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He's 100% right. Now that the NCAA is allowing them to bet on pro sports, expect things to get worse.
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Re: Saban nails it!
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Oct 23, 2025, 2:19 PM
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St. Nicky and Dabo are similar in many respects.
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Oct 23, 2025, 2:36 PM
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Love Saban but find it hypocritical. NIL and the portal may not jive with the spirit of college football but nine figure coaching contracts don’t either.
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Re: Saban nails it!
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Oct 23, 2025, 3:05 PM
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Don't disagree with your point, but it is worth noting that coaching contracts come with hefty buyouts that deter leaving before the end of the contract term. If a coach leaves midseason or before his contract expires, that coach was either fired for cause or performance issues, or someone (the coach or the acquiring team) has to cover the buyout on the remaining years (with a few exceptions, such as disability, death, or retirement). Additionally, their contracts are typically loaded with performance bonuses based on hard metrics that encourage them to deliver their best efforts to make the payout even richer.
By contrast, college players are UFAs at all times once the check clears, and they can quit, transfer, redshirt, or do whatever they like without any deterrent. NIL money is essentially compensation exclusively through signing bonuses without any golden handcuffs, and that creates a moral hazard. Pay the kids all you want and all they deserve, but hold some of it back until after a game or the season to ensure they hit their metrics.
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 12:37 PM
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I can imagine the complaining during their golf outings
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have there been any rumors or talks about them figuring a way to regulate it...
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Oct 23, 2025, 2:41 PM
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at all? I've always assumed this was going to be just a short period of the wild west mentality but then somehow it would get reined in, i.e. transfer penalties, limitations on payments, cap space, waiting period... I mean are we really just stuck with kids being able to leave willy nilly and other schools being able to tamper with no real tracking or penalties, and beign stuck with million dollar payments to kids who don't pan out or decide to coast?
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Re: Thinking Thoroughly About Things Before They Act ..... ---
Oct 23, 2025, 3:19 PM
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......unfortunately is either some long lost concept or a complete foreign alien language not of this universe ...or the next for some reason ...in these Las 7 years.
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Re: have there been any rumors or talks about them figuring a way to regulate it...
Oct 23, 2025, 11:54 PM
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It will remain a legal and regulatory minefield as long as the public universities, and therefore state legislatures, are involved. Best case scenario is private equity wresting control from the schools, but that is not a good outcome either, because then you will have teams threatening to move etc.
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Oct 23, 2025, 3:19 PM
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Of course the kids have no perseverance and discipline to overcome adversity. They bolt as soon as they don't get what they want. Losing toughness and heart that you only gain through hard lessons. You could see that coming from a mile away. Will result in shortage of talent at the NFL level.
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Oct 23, 2025, 3:51 PM
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I disagree. Kids don’t want to ride the pine for 2-3 years before they see the field. By going somewhere else they know they will most likely get pt and get better with real reps. College is short and I don’t mind kids going somewhere where they know they will play. I don’t think it has as much to do with avoiding adversity as you think. Plus there are plenty of more instances in life that will provide adversity beyond college football
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 6:18 AM
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I agree. The adversity thing is overblown. People will always leave for better opportunities and valuable athletic ability has a short shelf life.
Would it be fair for someone to tell Saban they think he left the NFL to go back to college because he couldn’t persevere and handle adversity?
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 7:06 AM
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 12:38 PM
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He's Spot On, he should be the NCAA Football Commish...
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 12:43 PM
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I can understand why he doesn't like it. He built his success around a specific formula. Same thing with Dabo. Their formulas are now completely outdated. College football is different, but it will never go back. Alabama only had to compete against a couple programs for all the 5*. In the old days, a 5* would never pick Texas Tech. They're choices weren't about building a program, it was about positioning their career for a high-paying 1st round NFL career. Now they can be guaranteed money today while playing for any program
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 1:00 PM
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“I can understand why he doesn't like it. He built his success around a specific formula. Same thing with Dabo. Their formulas are now completely outdated.”
— I would argue that even though they don’t like it that escalating coaching salaries (which Dabo and Saban both were very much a part of) helped cause it and are partially to blame for it.
Coaches don’t make these salaries to turn players into graduates or NFL stars or Fortune 500 executives or great husbands and fathers and citizens. Fans only care about winning. And players have a lot more to do with that than coaches. They also risk more.
Every time Saban or Dabo or some other coach signed another contract adding millions more to their salary the system inched a little closer to breaking.
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 1:37 PM
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I don't have instagram, but I think his best observation is about player development. He said it is easy to keep your mainline starters, but depth is being killed. Players used to be recruited and stay with a team because they knew they needed to be developed and the process to leave was substantial. Now if some young buck doesn't start right away he leaves for the $800K and the promise to start right away at another school even though they are not fully developed. Plus the process to leave is immediate. So with NIL, building the depth needed to have a powerhouse program is nearly impossible and as a result the ceiling for NIL just keeps going up.
Additionally he said it is unsustainable because NIL does not benefit the people giving money. If you have a big time donor give $500K to a program to recruit certain players and then a year later before they have ever started a game all the players leave for bigger NIL checks elsewhere what are the chances that the donor is less and less likely to ever pony up more money?
College football would be far better off to max out NIL per player to a number EVERY school can easily afford. It might not be popular but I would limit it to $100K and adjust tht for inflation annually. Yeah I know the coaches rake in much more, but the difference is that they are contractually bound to stay at the school and unlike these wet behind the ear kids they have to prove more to get the job and continue to prove it to keep the job. It either costs the school big money to fire them or any other school has big money to pay the buyout.
Big changes need to be made and it amazes me in a system that NOBODY is happy with that it was not changed yesterday.
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 1:44 PM
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“ Big changes need to be made and it amazes me in a system that NOBODY is happy with that it was not changed yesterday.”
— The players are happy about it. Who does college football exist to benefit?
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Oct 24, 2025, 2:20 PM
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If you think it is the players you are mistaken. You think they built those giant stadiums for players? If it just for players why build anything to hold fans at all? College football is there to benefit the school first and foremost.
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Oct 24, 2025, 1:54 PM
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I still remember when Saban said he knew he was done when he was at an in-home visit and the first thing out of the recruits mouth was...."how much money can I get?" lol. It's just ridiculous
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Oct 24, 2025, 2:02 PM
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“ I still remember when Saban said he knew he was done when he was at an in-home visit and the first thing out of the recruits mouth was...."how much money can I get?" lol. It's just ridiculous”
— It’s not ridiculous at all. It’s a multibillion dollar business.
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Re: Saban nails it!
Oct 24, 2025, 2:21 PM
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It's not that simple. If it were just a business there would be no NIL. There would just be paychecks and the football teams would remove all control from the college.
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