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Orange Beast [6106]
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
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Jul 7, 2024, 10:23 AM
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Dabo has attempted to use the portal for a few players and was not successful.
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Orange Beast [6106]
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
Jul 7, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Go back and look at Dabo’s comments for 2023. He wanted to add a portal offensive lineman.
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
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Jul 7, 2024, 12:19 PM
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And when I looked at the Gator Bowl replay yesterday we need some OL. At time there were some nonexistent blocks. Also some runs where there was no puch. Briningstool carried Mafah in for a late td after the disappeared
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Paw Warrior [4968]
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OL..for far too long.....
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Jul 8, 2024, 12:27 PM
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that group has not been prioritzed like it should. Room is still too small. Look at your competitors............
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Re: OL..for far too long.....
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Jul 8, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Amen JREwing® ... OL has been the nadir of the Clemson Football for decades but particularly since 2019-2020 when Anchrum and Simpson graduated. Salary spent on a full-time OL recruiter would be much better value than another on-field coach.
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Re: OL..for far too long.....
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Jul 8, 2024, 6:38 PM
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that group has not been prioritzed like it should. Room is still too small. Look at your competitors............
We carried 14-16 the entire time Dabo has been HC and experienced one of the greatest runs in CFB history. Yet you want us to believe this is the problem when we know we had substandard coaching plus some recruiting misses/bad evaluations.
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Clemson Conqueror [11206]
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"attempted"............
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Jul 7, 2024, 10:34 AM
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every other FBS school in the country has successfully utilized it to better their roster in some way, shape, or form..............yet Dabo can't figure it out????.....he's not stupid, just stubborn.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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smh, you are a sad poster
Jul 7, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Re: "attempted"............
Jul 7, 2024, 5:34 PM
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Every is a strong word. It’s my understanding that nearly all FBS teams used the portal except Clemson and the service academies. I f everyone improved their record wher did all of those extra losses go?
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Dynasty Maker [3204]
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133 FBS teams. 129 use the portal.
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Jul 8, 2024, 12:44 PM
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The only ones that don't are the 3 military academies, and Clemson. West Point, Annapolis, and Colorado springs can't can't use it because it takes a Congressional appointment.
Clemson is the outlier.
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I doubt EVERY team BETTERED their situation. In
Jul 8, 2024, 12:14 PM
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fact, I would bet some worsened their team chemistry and therefore results. Now I do believe judicious use is warranted to plug holes when you can, e.g. 2-3 per year.
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Re: "attempted"............
Jul 8, 2024, 2:13 PM
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every other FBS school in the country has successfully utilized it to better their roster in some way, shape, or form..............yet Dabo can't figure it out????.....he's not stupid, just stubborn.
Follow the link below and tell me how many teams have used the portal to better their roster and record . Many desperately need to better their roster!
Only 6 teams have a better record than Clemson during these “down years”. In addition, Clemson has been ranked in the top 20 at the end of the year every year since 2020, again during our “down years”.
Everyone talks about how much NIL and the portal are helping everyone, but all but a few are still way behind the Tigers.
Given Dabo’s track record, I will trust his decisions. The teams above Clemson in wins and ranking have always been good.
Sounds like a bunch of crybabies that are mad Dabo can’t win the championship every year. Let me tell you, nobody can win at that level every year. I don’t mind people having different opinions, but the posters on here that talk nasty to people that don’t want to bash the team and coaches are delusional. If you think you can name a better coach than Dabo, let’s hear your choice, and justify that selection. Otherwise you are blindly criticizing one of if not the best coach in the country.
Dabo can’t figure out what? How to win?
https://betiq.teamrankings.com/college-football/betting-trends/win-loss-records/?season=since-2020
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Re: "attempted"............
Jul 8, 2024, 6:17 PM
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“…better their roster…” maybe, but did they have a better team, a team that achieved more than they would have WITHOUT portal players. U may could say Colorado who probably would have been 0-12 w/o mercs but weren’t much better with them. ‘Noles too but best player Travis not a TP get and when he went down rest of team abdicated so again were they a better team because of the portal.
Idk last season was an embarrassment for CFB. Only ESecPN & pundits benefited. Certainly not players, fans or schools
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Re: "attempted"............
Jul 8, 2024, 7:59 PM
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How did they “better their roster”? Did they achieve something they otherwise wouldn’t have? Did they end up with a better team”? Most arguments I have seen for agressive use of the portal don’t seem to have much substance yet assessment of a head coach’s worth apparently depends on it and irrespective of the outcome.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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tell 'em shill I
Jul 7, 2024, 12:59 PM
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keep us laughing at you
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Paw Master [16860]
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In what world is failing to land portal players a valid excuse? Are we supposed
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Jul 8, 2024, 2:02 AM
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to feel better about our lack of portal additions because we tried and failed?
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
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Jul 7, 2024, 10:24 AM
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yet another 'writer' bantering the same ol' babble that many others have stated. It's like it's an agenda or these writers aren't smart enough to create any other 'opinions'.
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Tiger Titan [46641]
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There isnt an agenda.
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Jul 7, 2024, 11:00 AM
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People are understandably baffled as to why Dabo continues being so weird about the transfer portal, to the point that the program has visibly declined over the last few years.
Logic states that the would be able to adapt to the new era of college football, especially since he is paid handsomely to do so.
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Solid Orange [1319]
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Just lazy journalism***
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Jul 7, 2024, 11:33 AM
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I like that it bothers you about how much Coach Swinney is paid shill I
Jul 7, 2024, 1:08 PM
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A very telling piece of the puzzle of your simple mind.
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Tiger Titan [46641]
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The salary itself doesnt bother me at all.
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Jul 8, 2024, 8:12 PM
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I feel that his contract was justified based on the incredible success he had in the 2010s.
What bothers me is what he has done since then. He’s managed to take an elite program that he built, and due to stubbornness and hubris, made it an underachieving program that is clearly on the decline.
Quite simply, he isn’t earning his salary the last three years. He probably won’t earn it this year either. At what point can rational fans start to ask if he is worth it?
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Re: There isnt an agenda.
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I am not baffled, Dabo does not want quitters on his team. He has proven he will take a graduate transfer. Would you rather have Dabo and no portal transfers or Beemer and some portal transfers?
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Tiger Titan [46641]
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Why does it have to be either or?
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Jul 8, 2024, 8:16 PM
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Why can’t we have a better version of Dabo?
I’d like to see the Dabo of the 2010s, fun loving and carefree, who took calculated risks, rather than the Dabo we see today, who appears arrogant, annoyed, and stubborn.
The difference in our offense sums it up: we used to go fast-paced, exciting, and scored a lot of points. That’s when we were at our best, and won a lot of games. Now we are slow, predictable, score much less, and don’t win nearly as much.
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Clemson Conqueror [11622]
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There is no writer more fair and balanced than And Staples there's a simple
Jul 8, 2024, 7:29 PM
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Reason that some many writers are saying similar things and it ain't bias. It's because it's true.
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Game Changer [1844]
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
Jul 7, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Question is how much does Clemson have and max amount what they want to give per player and how much is allocated to cover the sports they will spend monies on. Would be interesting to know how the Tigers stack up againt other schools and their budget for NIL players.
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Orange Blooded [2194]
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
Jul 7, 2024, 12:35 PM
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I heard it on Clemson football live podcast that Clemson uses NIL to retain players not to “buy” players so to speakin regards to football.
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:29 PM
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I truly believe 3-4 immediate impact players from the portal would have had us in the playoffs the last 2 seasons.
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Paw Warrior [4968]
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Leon....agreed. everyone knows this.....
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Jul 8, 2024, 12:26 PM
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Prior comments on the subject have made change way harder than it needed to be in certain circumstances.
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Legend [7065]
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Re: Leon....agreed. everyone knows this.....
Jul 8, 2024, 6:13 PM
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It doesn’t help when so many people on this board pretend that it’s either Clemson’s way or FSU and Colorado’s way.
The mere suggestion of adding a couple of additions and people accuse you of wanting to flip the roster like FSU and Colorado.
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
Jul 8, 2024, 6:19 PM
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WR and OL in 2021.
CB and OL in 2022.
QB, WR and OL in 2023.
We’re close. But it seems unlikely we can get over the hump by just signing high schoolers while everyone else adds high schoolers and portal players.
Especially since our recruiting classes are getting worse. We haven’t signed a top 10 class since 2021. That’s 3 straight cycles. This class won’t be top 10 either, so 4 straight.
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Re: Reasonable take on portal use
Jul 8, 2024, 7:17 PM
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My question was who, not what
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Clemson Conqueror [11622]
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Ask the guy getting paid $250K to manage the portal
Jul 8, 2024, 7:33 PM
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No one said it was easy but we're completely inept in thus area
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Legend [7065]
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Re: Ask the guy getting paid $250K to manage the portal
Jul 8, 2024, 7:55 PM
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Right lol?
Danny Pearman is getting paid to do absolutely nothing. Must be so nice.
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