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Political philosophy question.
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Political philosophy question.

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Mar 14, 2025, 10:06 PM
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Note, this is a purely personal opinion question. Depending on how we view the political situation in the country today and how we view the mood of Americans when it comes to politics our answers will vary. I'm not George Barna or George Gallup. I don't know how to correctly word questions to gauge the mood of Americans. So just overlook my fallibility and help and old man out.

What is your thought about the following statement.

Most voters in America, even though they wouldn't admit it, want a government with an authoritarian leader.

Strongly agree Agree Slightly agree Neutral Slightly disagree Disagree Strongly disagree

Just curious. I'm sure I am in a small minority, but my answer is Strongly Agree. I think the large majority of Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, liberals - all of them, want a government with an authoritarian leader.

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Re: Political philosophy question.


Mar 14, 2025, 10:24 PM
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Didn’t Bobby Bowden die 5 years ago?

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Re: Political philosophy question.

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Mar 14, 2025, 10:55 PM
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Strongly disagree. I couldn't disagree a more. I literally despise authoritarian figures.

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Re: Political philosophy question.


Mar 14, 2025, 11:10 PM
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Don't like competition do you?

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Re: Political philosophy question.


Mar 15, 2025, 12:01 AM
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?

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Just to be clear...


Mar 14, 2025, 11:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Political philosophy question. ]
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I despise authoritarian politicians.

But, that wasn't my statement. I didn't ask if you wanted an authoritarian government. I asked if you though the majority of Americans want an authoritarian government.

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Re: Just to be clear...


Mar 15, 2025, 12:01 AM
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I think do not want that AT ALL. I think the vast majority can't stand authoritarian figures.

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Its impressive how easily you can lie to yourself.

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Mar 15, 2025, 8:01 AM [ in reply to Just to be clear... ]
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The only people who want an authoritarian leader are the current MAGA supporters and the republicans who enable them.

Arguing the democrats want one is just trying to make you feel better about your own deficiencies.

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Just to be clear,...


Mar 15, 2025, 3:24 PM
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.... Trump scares me just as much as Harris or Newsome or Schumer or any other leading national Democrat.

Like I said, I'm in a minority, probably. I don't want an authoritarian style government. But, I think most Americans, even though they won't admit it, do.

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Considering only Trump governs like an authoritarian


Mar 16, 2025, 12:01 AM
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if he doesn't scare you MORE than Harris, Schumer or Newsom then you are more comfortable with a dictator than you admit.

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Mar 15, 2025, 9:50 AM [ in reply to Re: Political philosophy question. ]
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Strongly disagree. I couldn't disagree a more. I literally despise authoritarian figures.


How did your weak figure in power work out 2021 - 2024? I don't care if you slept better or not. Man up soy boys.

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Mar 15, 2025, 10:37 AM
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Dude, you're the weak dude and in a cult. Biden sucks and Trump sucks.. Trump is a disaster though and he is now. Maybe he turns it around.

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Re: Political philosophy question.

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Mar 15, 2025, 6:46 AM
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My opinion is that the percentage of Americans who want an authoritarian leader is greater now than it has been in a century.

I don't believe it's a majority of Americans, but I would not be surprised to learn it's a third.

The reason for this, I think, is that more people are feeling helpless as the wage gap continues to increase, as housing prices outpace incomes, and the ownership class hog land and resources. Our government supposedly has checks and balances, but it fosters unchecked economic imbalances.

When the government seems like an oligarchy, a tyrant might not seem worse.

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Re: Political philosophy question.

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Mar 15, 2025, 7:03 AM
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I think it's basically as simple people want a leader they think will act in their best interest, whatever that may be. And isn't self-interest what drives most human behavior? Why do people want to see programs shut down, offices closed and people fired? Because somewhere in all that, they see a benefit to them.

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Mar 15, 2025, 7:54 AM
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weak ### btch. Said no one, ever.

"LEADERS", are by definition; authoritative. Politicians are representatives, and I do not view any of them as "my leader".

The question is designed to allow libs to claim that people want a dictator and pass that off as another negative to "maga", nothing more.

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I think most Americans probably want THEIR vision of


Mar 15, 2025, 8:39 AM
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America to take form. When that is happening they are more inclined to look the other way if it is the result of a “strong man” imposing his will.

It’s kind of a lazy, short-term mindset on governance, and we see that with Biden and then Trump respectively dismantling what the other guy did in a matter of days.

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So, here's some polling on it...

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Mar 15, 2025, 8:43 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/

About 1/3 of Americans have expressed support for an Authoritarian system. They are more likely to be on the ideological right, and more likely to be lower income.

Across the developed world, the average is about 31%. Middle-income countries are more supportive than high-income countries.

Here's another poll:

https://www.prri.org/research/threats-to-american-democracy-ahead-of-an-unprecedented-presidential-election/

This one has authoritarian support at around 38%, with Republicans more supportive than Dems by a good bit...48% to 29%...independents at 38%.

So, I think your opinion on this isn't supported by the polling. Only about 1/3 of America, and not a vast majority support authoritarian rule. Of those that do, they're more likely to be on the ideological right-wing.

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Thanks for the links and info.


Mar 15, 2025, 3:34 PM
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When asked the question, "Do you want an authoritarian government in America?" I would be suprised that 39% would say yes.

I have many friends (politically conservative, strong Trump supporters) who would say they don't want an authoritarian form of government, but are cheering every move Trump makes.

I also have friends who loved every executive order that Biden wrote and how he bypassed congress on a regular basis.

I think a majority of Americans will never admit it but they have the opinion of, "I want a dictator who agrees with me in charge of government in America. This system of checks and balances just doesn't work any more."

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Re: Thanks for the links and info.


Mar 15, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Most people want a strong leader who gets things done, but not a Dictator.

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Re: Political philosophy question.

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Mar 15, 2025, 10:07 AM
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I would like a strong person as President who is Constitutionally minded.

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Mar 15, 2025, 10:40 AM
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Aside from Biden, due to senility, all of our presidents are generally strong. Trump is proving to be a mess posing as someone with strength. He is soft and lost from what I have seen.

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Re: Political philosophy question.

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Mar 16, 2025, 2:01 PM
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LoL at this post. OP is a MAGAt who has enough self awareness to know how bad project 25's goal I to install an autocracy. But rather than show the balls to call this out for how bad it is, he's trying to make it sound like everyone else really wants this.



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Re: Political philosophy question.


Mar 16, 2025, 4:19 PM
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I agree that some want a Authoritarian leader, but heres the kicker. Many people don't realize thats what they want or a level of denial at the very least.

I think most people want a gubment that will do the things they want done. MAGA is the worse coz they seem to not know or care to know how government works, so they don't care that dumb donald is overreaching if its what they want... and some things they may not have wanted, but want after dumb donald tells them they should want it

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Mar 16, 2025, 9:34 PM
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I can't speak for "the majority", only myself. And the answer is DOUBLE Hell No. Only maroons would choose such. But we have a lot of maroons apparently.

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Many, many of them want it but don't know they want it...

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Mar 17, 2025, 8:48 AM
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Because they want it to come in the form of forcing the things they want into existence and forcing out the people or things they don't like.

They're okay with circumventing our checks and balances in the form of executive orders to achieve these goals. In their mind, it's a righteous implementation of necessary policy.

If you ask them if they want a dictator or an unfree society, of course they'll say no. They don't realize they might be supporting that until a decision is finally made that ##### them over.

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