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One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people
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One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:11 PM
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engaging in the same ugly behavior towards Brownell. Hypocritical.

A lot of toxic behavior from people seemingly reveling in negativity around our basketball team now. More than even the recent toxicity around the FB program. Things have become much uglier here than the success of our athletic programs warrant. Now is a golden age of Clemson athletics, but there is as much toxic behavior as ever.

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Is the behavior more or less ugly than how we showed up first half vs McNeese?

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:16 PM
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Asking for a friend.

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All season vs a few games.

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:22 PM
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We have many posters here who behave like paid agents trying to sow discontent even when things were awesome. Complaining about a horrible performance is normal and nearly all of us do that. But there are people waging non-stop campaigns of negativity well beyond pointing out obvious failures like the first half of that game.

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Re: Is the behavior more or less ugly than how we showed up first half vs McNeese?


Mar 24, 2025, 6:36 PM [ in reply to Is the behavior more or less ugly than how we showed up first half vs McNeese? ]
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The half was the worst in NCAA tournament history.

I don't think the fans who hate JK and are disappointed in the basketball team are at historic levels, so the McNeese State game is worse.

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Completely Solid Take.

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:20 PM
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"I think we all realize that Dabo is an expert in his field." - J. Keller


Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:22 PM
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Both sides are hypocrites but none bigger then king/queen hypocrite

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Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:22 PM
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Unlike Dabo who virtually every year wins a championship of one sort or another.

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I don't think there is ever a justification to wage a constant campaign of

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:25 PM
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negative bias against any Clemson program. That's what coots do when they come on here. Trying to spin things to make us seem worse than we are.

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13 in the first against McNeese

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:28 PM
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followed by an outright stampede to the portal probably are doing more on that front than anything you think someone else may be doing.

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"I think we all realize that Dabo is an expert in his field." - J. Keller


Oh well yes, it's very obvious you make no actual difference.

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:46 PM
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That doesn't mean your behavior isn't pathetic, hypocritical and very much anti-Clemson nonetheless.

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:30 PM [ in reply to I don't think there is ever a justification to wage a constant campaign of ]
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Big difference between fan and follower. Even bigger when poster is actually fan of down state.

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We know youre a coot, no reason to try to be coy about it.***


Mar 24, 2025, 3:31 PM
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Re: We know youre a coot, no reason to try to be coy about it.***


Mar 24, 2025, 3:40 PM
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Not a chance. Alum that supports the current coach of any sport we have until they retire, move on, or are fired. Not a discord sower like about 25% on here. Watch the games to the end no matter the outcome.
I see a parallel between the haters on here and ####### Tesla owners. Were saving the world from the climate hoax last year but want to burn the car in their driveway today.

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Re: Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:29 PM [ in reply to Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years ]
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What do you think is harder? Clemson to win acc in football or win the ACC in basketball.

In football this year, we lost to every decent team we played. We lost our toughest regular season in conference game to louisville. We needed miami to lose to syracuse to even make the acc championship game. We then beat SMU (who didnt beat a decent team all year) to win the ACC.

In basketball we had to beat top 15 louisville and then #1 ranked duke to win the ACC.

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Re: Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:33 PM
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Basketball by a mile. Talent disparity is huge. Duke had more incoming 5 stars this year than our program has ever had.

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The BBall team obviously has a better overall season for sure.

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:44 PM [ in reply to Re: Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years ]
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The ACC sucked out loud in both leagues. But our BBall wins vs Duke and Kentucky were superior than any wins in Football.

I'm still more optimistic about Football next year than BBall though.

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Re: Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years


Mar 24, 2025, 6:00 PM [ in reply to Re: Many of us are just angry we are saddled with this potato for 6 more years ]
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Thanks for proving Completely Solid Orange's point!

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Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people

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Mar 24, 2025, 3:58 PM
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My suggestion would be for the one person to stop the poisonous approach, and then let's see if that solves the problem.

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Every individual is responsible for their own behavior.

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Mar 24, 2025, 4:00 PM
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If 10 people fail to be decent, it doesn't mean it's ok for the 11th person to fail to be decent as well.

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Re: Every individual is responsible for their own behavior.

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Mar 24, 2025, 4:29 PM
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You just identified yourself in your original post that the one person's poisonous attitude towards Dabo is the root cause of the problem. Eliminating the root cause of the problem is generally what solves a problem.

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People were ######## on the basketball program when Dabo was still coaching WRs,

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Mar 24, 2025, 4:54 PM
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all Keller did was turn the hose back on them

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Re: People were ######## on the basketball program when Dabo was still coaching WRs,


Mar 24, 2025, 5:58 PM
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So you are saying JK is the one who started this TNET version of the Hatfield & McCoys by attacking our WR coach

That's not very nice, I don't think JK would appreciate that.

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The Basketball program shouldn't be a part of that fight.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:06 AM
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The fact our basketball program has been used as a mechanism for counterattacking a T-Net poster is pathetic and embarrassing. Dabo can be defended without attacking another coach.

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Re: The Basketball program shouldn't be a part of that fight.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:13 AM
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I agree completely, I will add the inverse is also true by swapping the sports and coaches in your statement.


Posters should be judged and interacted with based on the content of their contributions. The tribal mentality needs to stop.

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Re: The Basketball program shouldn't be a part of that fight.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:56 AM [ in reply to The Basketball program shouldn't be a part of that fight. ]
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I'll say it again. You even stated in your first post that that all started because a certain poster began this poisonous attitude towards Dabo. So again, let's remove the root cause the problem and that should solve the problem.

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Re: People were ######## on the basketball program when Dabo was still coaching WRs,


Mar 25, 2025, 11:54 AM [ in reply to People were ######## on the basketball program when Dabo was still coaching WRs, ]
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And they were also doing the same thing to Tommy Bowden when Dabo was a wide receiver's coach, so there was no reason to set up the basketball versus football war.

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You should ask Francis Marion to do better.***

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Mar 24, 2025, 5:20 PM [ in reply to Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people ]
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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


You should ask Francis Marion to do better.***

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Mar 24, 2025, 5:20 PM [ in reply to Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people ]
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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people

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Mar 24, 2025, 5:16 PM
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Now is a golden age of Clemson -- as are they all.

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the tug abides


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Mar 24, 2025, 6:01 PM
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Yessir ..... because we are Clemson!

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Re: One person's poisonous approach to Dabo has manifested 20 such people

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Mar 24, 2025, 5:53 PM
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I've never understood how bashing Clemson football for the sake of Clemson basketball, or vise versa ever made any sense.

In general it just seems petty. I almost wonder if CBB has not been 'vilified' simply because of some of the outspoken folks/views here...quite frankly as a football fan I've never really paid too much mind about basketball or our coach. I pull for them of course, but in general this atmosphere seems to be more drama off the court than on.

They are both Clemson programs. Also the balls are no where near the same shape. Why does one need to deflate the other?

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Well put. I agree.***


Mar 25, 2025, 11:02 AM
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Wow. What a change in your perspective


Mar 24, 2025, 7:03 PM
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Looking at football to basketball. Too bad the poison was let in and meant to kill all of Clemson sports.

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There is no change. I use the same principles for any program.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:02 AM
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I never made personal attacks against any of the coaches. I never reveled or made fun of our failures in either sport. I saw there were things too broken in our FB program to recover without getting rid of our DC at least. I pointed out we hired too many inexperienced coaches but said we already took steps to correct this problem. Once Dabo made the change at DC, I celebrated it as the perfect move and became optimistic again. I always defended Dabo's use of the portal. You won't find any hypocrisy of favoritism between the two sports from me. You can try as you might.

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Perfect example of my football criticism last year... (link)


Mar 25, 2025, 11:26 AM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/ol-improved-with-a-good-ol-coach.-dbs-are-good-with-a-good-db-coach.-35967979

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Some of us want to win


Mar 25, 2025, 11:06 AM
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and are tired of a coach being rewarded for mediocrity.

Not sure why people can’t understand that.

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Not sure why you can't understand your response has nothing to do with it.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:10 AM
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It shouldn't be hard to understand the difference between

A: Pointing out flaws/failures of a coach or team

vs

B: Going on months-long campaigns of negative bias and comically reveling in every potential critical angle of the team in order to spite a T-Net poster.

Anyone capable of self-awareness or honesty knows exactly what I am talking about. It's childish to pretend like this is a situation of merely people incapable of criticism vs people capable of it. That's a joke.

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Re: Not sure why you can't understand your response has nothing to do with it.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:32 AM
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This is a message board, which is here for our entertainment.

There is no requirement that we all have to be a bunch of cheerleaders.

Sports are for entertainment.
And when the only real source of entertainment is to joke about how bad it is, that is what people will do.

Deal with it.

Hope that helps you.

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I am dealing with it. I am criticizing it. Now it's your turn to deal with that.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:36 AM
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Beyond that, you stroll up in my thread with a worthless response so I set it straight. I am doing exactly what I want. You go right along and deal with that yourself too.

People want to fling poop all over the place? Watch for some of it to come back in their direction. Hopefully you can handle that.

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Re: I am dealing with it. I am criticizing it. Now it's your turn to deal with that.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:38 AM
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LOLOLOL what????

I really didn’t mean to upset you so badly.
Hope you’re okay.

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Let me know when you have something actually relevant to anything I say.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Until then I think I will spend my attention elsewhere.

Take care; ya hear?

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Re: Let me know when you have something actually relevant to anything I say.


Mar 25, 2025, 11:49 AM
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I did.

You just didn’t like it because I didn’t agree with you.

Take care

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