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NIL Cost Cap?
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Dec 14, 2023, 9:45 AM
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With the ridiculous numbers that we are hearing thrown out there in NIL deals, do you ever think that a nil cost cap could be placed on either individual player value or total team spending.
I just think that that an individual player cap would balance out recruiting in a big way preventing commitments purely based of money and bring it back to programs kids feel they belong in!
I also assume this would never happen in reality unfortunately.
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Now that the horse is out of the barn...
Dec 14, 2023, 10:04 AM
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it will be difficult to put is back.
The lawsuits for diminishing a players earning capacity would be endless.
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Re: Now that the horse is out of the barn...
Dec 14, 2023, 10:26 AM
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I would agree you can’t limit a persons ability to earn.
I think more likely you could limit collectives associated with a school or declare the players to be employees and have them pay taxes etc including on their benefits like scholarships.
Regulation of the schools is much easier to ban regulation of individual players I think.
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The NFL has a salary cap, which potentially limits a player's ability to earn
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Dec 14, 2023, 11:23 AM
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depending on the specific player
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Yes, but that's only allowed because the players have a union
Dec 14, 2023, 11:30 AM
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and the union agreed to a salary cap in collective bargaining.
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There is nothing...
Dec 14, 2023, 11:35 AM
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more misrepresented, misdiagnosed and often misinformed than the salary cap. The cap is simply an accounting function largely due to systematic magic of signing and option bonus that are prorated or spread out over the term of the deal. The cap can be manipulated to provide short-term gain for long-term pain.
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Re: There is nothing...
Dec 14, 2023, 12:07 PM
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Is that you Bobby Bonilla?
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Re: Now that the horse is out of the barn...
Dec 14, 2023, 11:28 AM
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Do you have a cap on your salary? If you understood NIL, you would understand we live in the USA and salaries are not controlled by the government.
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Re: NIL Cost Cap?
Dec 14, 2023, 11:10 AM
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If you could get the Power 5 to all agree on it the Shohei Ohtani approach may work. You get $500K/yr and $2.5M at the two minute warning of the last bowl game your last year of eligibility. The NIL contracts could be used to help fix the portal issues.
Or...Use the Portal to fix NIL. The courts have ruled you can't intefere with the player making money on NIL but you could say anyone who has made above $1M cannot play for a year after entering the portal.
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Re: NIL Cost Cap?
Dec 14, 2023, 11:12 AM
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I think it would be interesting to have a 4 year cap on each school. Some schools with struggling coaches i.e. Texas A&M would sell the farm to try get a championship or save a coach, then have to live 3 years in obscurity.
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Re: NIL Cost Cap?
Dec 14, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Using a law to limit what someone could earn in a free market?
Sounds like communism.
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They won't be able to do anything like that without making the players employees
Dec 14, 2023, 11:34 AM
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and having them form a union, or maybe through an act of Congress.
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The conferences and NCAA overall could agree on a per year program NIL
Dec 14, 2023, 12:04 PM
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cap. From the commie standpoint, this doesn't actually limit what an individual can make, it would just limit which programs might be available for someone to join based on how much room they have left under the cap. This is in line with scholarship limits. If a team is full - there's no room and they're not an option. Apply this methodology to NIL.
Go Football!
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Since it's not directly associated with the schools (LOL), you can't cap
Dec 14, 2023, 12:20 PM
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capitalism!
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Re: NIL Cost Cap?
Dec 14, 2023, 12:24 PM
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The issue is schools do not directly provide $$ for NIL to their players, that is still against the rules. NIL is by definition the right and ability for a player to capitalize on his name, image or likeness by entering into an agreement with a 3rd party organization. This 3rd party organization agrees to pay said player the agreed upon amount of money in exchange for using that player's NIL in "marketing campaigns" or other agreed upon actions.
Even with Utah giving players trucks, you can argue that they are advertising the trucks by driving them around campus and elsewhere. But the schools themselves cannot subsidize or directly pay the players, that is still an NCAA violation.
The schools will and do work directly with collectives regarding NIL money to keep or obtain certain players obviously, but for legality purposes the collective enters into the agreement with the player for said money.
Because of this, it is impossible for the NCAA or anyone else to limit the potential earnings of any single individual, or the team collectively. You cannot tell Amazon or Apple what their budget is for marketing, only they can determine what they wish to spend. Same thing here, Brandon's Car Dealership can give QB#1 $200k for a single poster of them beside a car if they want to, it's their marketing $$$.
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