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Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 5, 2024, 4:29 PM
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Scientists have successfully cloned a 'new genetic contributor' from a deceased ferret whose DNA was preserved, and a live ferret. So clones aren't sterile. Net result? A bigger gene pool for an endangered species, which will help that species survive on its own without human intervention.
In midst of all that, where is life, and maybe a soul, however we define them? For instance, when one freezes a DNA sample, are they freezing life? Or a half-life (not the radiation kind, snicker) or what?
I feel like we are grasping around blindly in a big 'ole pot of mystery, pulling out little man-made miracles here and there with barely any idea of what we are doing. Not that it's either good or bad, it's just that we don't know, or know where it might lead.
The Egyptians made a clear distinction between 'life', and 'soul.' A tree is alive by definition, but does it have a soul? What about a frozen chunk of DNA? And how can I be sure I even have to tools to say either way? Idk. The more you know, the more you realize what you don't know.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cloned-ferret-gives-birth-va-155314204.html
And then I start singing George Harrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiH9edd25Bc
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 5, 2024, 5:59 PM
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We do need more ferrets.
Good questions. No way to know, and I dont claim this is a satisfactory answer, but any human action using DNA to create an organism would seem to be no more or less human-produced life than having sex or IVF.
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 6, 2024, 12:08 PM
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I post pic this from time-to-time because it blows my mind.
The tie in question then becomes, "Suppose a comet brought all water to earth. What might have been in the water? Frozen microbial life?"
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 8, 2024, 10:35 AM
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Well, it seems to me that if a comet brought all water to earth, it would have evaporated with the heat from entry and then from impact. If there was no atmosphere then everything would certainly be either frozen or boiling hot... since the atmosphere does keep the sun at bay.
I'm sure it is more technical than that but, I don't think a comet brought all water to the earth.
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 8, 2024, 1:08 PM
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>Well, it seems to me that if a comet brought all water to earth, it would have evaporated with the heat from entry
Correct, but it would evaporate into the atmosphere and eventually condense into water droplets right?
Or at least, that's how I would understand it. There would still be gravity, it wouldn't evaporate back out into deep space.
I don't know, I'm not a scientist but that's a super interesting point.
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
Nov 8, 2024, 3:09 PM
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Mrs. Fordt teaches kinders and occasionally she'll do some after-school stuff with them. I sometimes help and that picture of water is always a big hit. I try to show them things to help them appreciate the scale of the world and the local universe.
Another 'wow' is to stack 16 reams of paper against the wall. That's about 4' high, roughly the size of this snowman's body, without his head.
Then, I lay two sheets of blue construction paper on top, and tell them "That's how deep the ocean is."
16 reams = 500x16 = 8000 sheets of paper. The earth is 8000 miles across. The average ocean depth is 2 miles deep. 2 sheets of blue paper.
Another mind-blower is telling them that if the sun was the size of a washing machine, the earth is the size of a marble, a football field away. Seeing me walk 100 yards down the street (aka, Solar System) with a marble and waving back to them is much more enlightening to them than reading numbers in a book.
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Re: Not really news, but every time I see stuff like this it makes me ponder life...
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Nov 8, 2024, 10:37 AM
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I sure hope they hurry up and get some honeybees cloned. Heck with T-rex and ferrets.
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Take the misquitos too please***
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