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Re: Football Player Update: Report: Beasley to turn pro after this season

Oct 28, 2013, 5:08 PM

This seems like a BIG mistake...

There's only going to be 32 first round picks and another 32 second rounders. Given the seniors and the juniors we already know are coming out (J. Clowney, Sammy Watkins, etc.) he's unlikely to be a top pick and there's still a lot of juniors (and maybe redshirt sophomores like Johnny Manziel) that we don't know about yet. Beasley has good numbers this year, but he's a tweener. Too small for a pro defensive end and he doesn't seem to have the skill set for outside linebacker. Remember that we tried him at linebacker back when we were REALLY struggling there (Corico Hawkins?) and he couldn't break into the depth chart. Vic could really use another year in the weight program to get up to around 250 - 265 lbs otherwise he’s limiting himself to being an option for a team looking for a designated pass rusher.

As for his film, Beasley did play well against Georgia. That helps, but his film against the rest of our weak competition (SC State, NC State, Wake, Syracuse, BC and Maryland) is going to be viewed skeptically by a lot of scouts. If he wants to be a high pick this year he's going to need to show that, even at this size, he can take over against pro-quality competition. I doubt the Virginia and Citadel game films will carry much weight and he was completely neutralized in the FSU game that scouts were definitely watching.

GT will be a prime-time, "only game on TV" chance for him to shine but with the offense they run he may not get much opportunity to pad his stats. So, it would seem he's going to need a monster, All-World game against Carolina to help his stock and it’s only after that game when he should think about leaving early. If he plays great and routinely runs down the "elusive" Conner Shaw then he MIGHT be able to sway some scouts into considering him in the second or third round. If not then his 2014 NFL Draft could turn out to be a long, long wait.

One last thing to note is that the guy who currently owns our single-season sack record was a two-time All-American who left early for the draft. Keith Adams' size issues kept him from being picked until the end of the seventh round. In fact, he was among the last few COMPENSATORY picks that occur at the very end of the draft, pick #232 (32 teams * 7 rounds = 224 picks). So, technically, Keith wasn't picked until after the draft was over.

It seems pretty simple to me. Vic Beasley should stay in school, get bigger, get stronger and fill a trophy case with national awards that make it impossible to look past him.

Just my opinion,
-Grant

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In what world would his film be viewed as skeptical? The one the NFL operates in.

That 235 lb number is a huge knock against him. That's going to make scouts analyze everything before they invest a high pick in this guy. NFL offensive tackles are elite players -- there's only 32 starting left tackles in the entire world. Scouts are going to look at how Beasley performed against really good competition. Can he compete against an NFL quality lineman? Well, how did he do against FSU?

You seem to believe that these stats against SC State and ACC teams, universally regarded as "weak", are going to sway scouts. That's not backed up by history. People thought Keith Adams was going to be a high pick. Didn't happen. They said Daquan Bowers would be a top ten pick if not the first overall. Didn't happen -- late second round. Dwayne Allen was supposed to be the first tight-end taken. Didn't happen -- third round and wasn't even the first tight-end taken by the Colts that year. Don't believe the hype. If you don't have the height / weight / 40 time that scouts want then you better have a 4 year resume of awesomeness to make up for it.

One last point, Keith Adams left as a junior despite insistence that was too small and was barely even drafted. Tye Hill was supposed to be too small to play corner against NFL receivers. He stayed all four years, padded his resume with a great senior year and was a first-round pick. It matters.

-Moon

Football Player Update: Report: Beasley to turn pro after this season

Well this is a complete surprise..........***

If to be a DE, shouldn't he need more size. If LB, okay.***

Re: If to be a DE, shouldn't he need more size. If LB, okay.***

Re: Well this is a complete surprise..........***

Re: Well this is a complete surprise..........***

I was preparing myself for this when I saw some of his early

you had to prepare yourself for this?

I always try to look ahead and see which players I think

Good to get that out there and let defensive end targets

I completely agree***

Re: Football Player Update: Report: Beasley to turn pro after this season

He probably still needs to strike now though.***

Can't really blame him for striking while the iron is hot...

You younger guys may not remember when players had........

The good old days ain't coming back

Re: The good old days ain't coming back

Risk vs Reward

more schollys.

Lawson. Crawford. EBO and co.

growing pain

Would Be A Mistake and Cost Him Money

All of the major sites are projecting him as a 1st rounder

None of those individuals currently or have never worked

He's currently ranked number 1 in sacks in the nation. If

The NFL's Not Into Development

Re: The NFL's Not Into Development

The question is does Vic improve his draft stock if he stays