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DOGE chickens come home to roost
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Nephew of; Doctorate in Chemistry from Dook. Hired on at FDA after graduating last May. Kicked axe, as nephew of does, and bumped up the ladder in December, but being bumped up comes with a probationary period, and thanks to Elon's sweepingly non-elected hand, nephew of and other well qualified teammates are now laid off, with the foreseeable a yawning vacuum.
Way to go, Elon! Let's get Billy Bob with an associate's degree in IT in there, monitoring food processing plants and checking for ebola and salmonella and chit.
America!
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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It’s frustrating to see qualified people getting axed while decisions are made by those with zero experience in the field.
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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Feb 21, 2025, 6:53 AM
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Keowee I want you to cycle into this thread at some point today and tell pawacoot he’s a liar, and how you know that promotions don’t come with probationary periods.
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Paw Master [16777]
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I'll say it again really slow so you can fkn understand.
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Being promoted does not start the probationary period over again. Unless you are at some chief level. He stated that his nephew started (at the earliest) would have been last may, which is less than a year.
He/ she would still be in their original probationary period cause it's LESS THAN A FKN YEAR of total employment, and nothing to do with promotions.
Does it suck for them? Yes. Am I correct? Yes
Also, being promoted in less than a year is sus, what was his/ her original grade and what grade were they promoted to 6 months later?
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Re: I'll say it again really slow so you can fkn understand.
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You seem emotional, are you on your period? Calm down.
That’s not what pawacoot said, I want you to tell him he’s a liar. You’ve now been presented with multiple first hand accounts of federal employee promotions leading to probationary periods, along with all the examples in the media this week that you don’t seem interested enough to look into. Maybe you should reconsider whether or not this is a hill you’re willing to die on?
So please, tell pawacoot he and his nephew are liars and that you know better.
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So your are saying that his original probationary period ended
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Feb 21, 2025, 7:43 AM
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sometime between May and Dec and a new one started in December? That is what you are claiming as fact? Yes or no?
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Well Paw lost all credibility when he stated this:
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Feb 21, 2025, 8:24 AM
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"Way to go, Elon! Let's get Billy Bob with an associate's degree in IT in there, monitoring food processing plants and checking for ebola and salmonella and chit."
So, he assumes that since his nephew with 6 months on the job was laid off that the FDA will now be led by some a.s. IT guys, and not the ones that have already been there 30 years? Yes, he's lying.
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Re: Well Paw lost all credibility when he stated this:
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Feb 21, 2025, 8:47 AM
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Good, thanks for that. We’ll all just all be super clear that the personal examples people have shared are all lying, and that you know exactly what’s happening, and it certainly has nothing to do with you just being blindly loyal and defensive about your political team.
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None of these "personal" examples have any details.
Feb 21, 2025, 9:18 AM
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What was his nephew's grade before and after his promotion in 5 months? Was he a paid intern that got coverted to accepted service? Was his job that he started in Dec his first actual competive position? All of those things matter.
Either way, he was never employed over a year which is the minimum whether he was "promoted" or not. So to say that the promotion is why he was laid off is disengenuous at best and a straight out lie at worst.
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Re: None of these "personal" examples have any details.
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Feb 21, 2025, 9:29 AM
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Beats me, maybe he’ll come back and answer your questions, but something tells me nothing anyone tells you will change your mind.
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You are correct. To put this in perspective, telling me what I know and
Feb 21, 2025, 9:31 AM
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what I don't know about this subject would be akin to me telling you the right way to do digital rectal exam.
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Re: You are correct. To put this in perspective, telling me what I know and
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I worry you may be taking your own personal experience with government employment and applying that to everyone else’s, despite first hand accounts to the contrary. Most of what I’ve heard and read about this suggests a breadth of variability between federal agencies and departments regarding probationary periods.
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Re: OPM governs all to a standard, they can add to, but cannot subtract from.***
Feb 21, 2025, 9:38 AM
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So they could theoretically add a probationary period to supervisory role promotions?
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Re: None of these "personal" examples have any details.
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Feb 21, 2025, 12:40 PM
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I don't know exactly what his job title was, but he was on a team that oversees food processing plants and distribution facilities that are required to submit reports on contamination elimination systems and procedures. He was promoted to the chemistry department, but he has a DOCTORATE in Chemistry, and yes, that promotion came with a NEW probationary period.
And yes, thanks to Elon, he now has no job.
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Re: None of these "personal" examples have any details.
Feb 21, 2025, 1:09 PM
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KeoweeIndians® Would you like to come back and explain why you know pawacoot is still lying?
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Still nope.
Feb 21, 2025, 3:06 PM
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"I don't know exactly what his job title was". Still have no idea if he was holding an excepted position within the FDA or was a recent grad program (paid intern) in May. The have that he was still in the same organization is even less chance of a "new probationary" period. He was still less than a year period, no matter what positions he held. Still sucks, but his " promotion" had noting to do with it.
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Re: Still nope.
Feb 21, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Yes, it's the same organization (FDA), but a totally different department. And my nephew wasn't an intern. And I highly doubt he's lying to his entire family.
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Re: Well Paw lost all credibility when he stated this:
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The majority of the time, you Libs never tell the whole story. Go to the real world where a 25 year worker can be cut and a 6 month worker stays. Went through that process at least a half dozen times and made it until I finally retired.
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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Feb 21, 2025, 5:28 AM
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Maybe Elon just hates dook too.
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My daughter got caught as well at NASA
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When she was at community college she got a $5000 NASA NC Space Grant Scholarship. We joking called her the rocket scientist. She went to State and got a BS ChemE with Biomfg minor. She got an internship and then a Job with a rocket company Called ULA (Altas, Delta, Vulcan Rockets). In her job she had top secret+ security clearance and had direct contact with DOD, Space Force, and NASA as clients. Got as MS in Space Systems from Johns Hopkins.
A NASA contractor for launch operations contacted her about a job maybe a year and a half ago, but she turned it down because it was not a GS job for NASA although it was a way in. Last year NASA contacted her directly. They interviewed and offered her a job. They wanted her to start in December but she had some ski trips planned and asked if she could start in Feb.
Start date moved to Feb 10. She gave her company a 4 week notice. The day before the her last day which was the day before we left for a ski trip she gets the coldest email you can imagine. Your offer has been rescinded, the job no longer exists, don't call us. The cutoff date was Feb 8. She missed it by 2 days.
HR took like one email and wouldn't take a call. The hiring manager said he got the same email and would try to work on something.
They called back last week and said they could get her in with the contract company. They got the job approved and would tell her when it posted. Three days later reports are all new hires are fired and NASA is cutting 10%...then they backtracked and then the job finally got posted last night and they emailed her immediately.
It looks like it may work out for her. I felt so bad for her. She quit a great job then had the next job pulled out from under her. Ended up unemployed with no unemployment or anything. (She did have 6 months expenses saved up in an emergency fund like her dad told her to do)
NASA is kind of a pinnacle for rocket scientist. Maybe not a life long career but working there is awesome on a resume. Still some uncertainty, but they really want her and they are trying to expand the division that is hiring her. There just aren't a lot of people in the world with her expertise.
I still have no clue who she voted for the last two elections. We talk almost daily and are very close. I don't mix politics and family, thats what this board is for.
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Re: My daughter got caught as well at NASA
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It’s very sad that the American people have given up their representation so easy. I don’t think maga voters have realized yet how Trump used them. Sad days ahead. I am all for efficiency and reducing cost. But when you hand over power to a guy running around with a chainsaw vs your elected representative. Something is wrong.
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Re: My daughter got caught as well at NASA
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I don’t think some of the cultists will ever admit he’s a clown. Everyone that really knows him knows he’s full of $hit. 🤡🤡
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Hope it works out, sorry to hear your child has been affected by the chaos. She doesn’t sound like a deep state pencil pushing bureaucrat, she sounds like a bright talented asset to her field and the service of humanity.
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Re: My daughter got caught as well at NASA
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Hope things work out for your daughter. That's what is so frustrating about Trump. I agree with some of what he is trying to do, but couldn't disagree more with the how of what he is attempting to do.
We didn't get this massive bureaucratic morass of a federal government overnight. There is a ton of fat and fraud present which should be attacked with precision and intelligence rather than the way it's being done.
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Sorry to hear about your daughter.
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She seems pretty impressive, and you should be proud.
My older half-brother scored 1600 on his SAT, and then the Secret Service came calling. Funny how that works. Anyway. He, too, was given top security clearance, which involved a call to me, his little 12-year-old brother. I will never forget it.
He left the SS after a couple of years and went to USC. I know, a chicken so he can't be that smart after all  .
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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I agree that only getting rid of probationary employees (however it's defined) is less than ideal but if it upsets you you should be mad at the federal employee unions and tbe courts that have combined to make it basically impossible to make mass layoffs wherever they may actually be most needed. No idea why people are ok with hundreds of thousands of unelected bureaucrats basically being untouchable no matter how irrelevant their jobs are or how little they do every day for taxpayers. If your loved ones getting canned you should be mad at those groups of people who have willingly through labor negotiations made them practically the only fireable people in the entire federal government.
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Re: DOGE chickens come home to roost
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This is like blaming the homebuilder for your house burning down because it was framed with wood while you wear a T-shirt with the arsonist’s name on it
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I'm olde enough to remember when very qualified
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soldiers and people in govt agencies got fired for not taking the Fauci jab.
But that's just me.
And I'd you don't think the executive branch is "non-elected", you need a civics lessen.
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Vaccine regimens are part of the agreement in joining the military.
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But you already knew that.
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Re: Vaccine regimens are part of the agreement in joining the military.
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But you already knew that.
The so called COVID vaccine was not part of the agreement when these people signed up
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Re: Vaccine regimens are part of the agreement in joining the military.
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You don't sign up for specific vaccines, genius. The military owns your ### when you sign up.
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Re: Oh, so military people get to pick and choose what new vaccines to take
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over their careers? Can you point out that clause in the employment contract?
There was no reason for Lloyd Austin to make it a mandatory vaccination, the COVID vaccine did not prevent anyone from getting COVID
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It absolutely did, regardless of your revisionist history.
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The first vaccines had 90-96% efficacy in preventing transmission. It dropped as new variants emerged, obviously, but you don't get to rewrite what actually happened for political points.
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The vaccine, when first introduced and over the course of the first year,
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was "worthless"? You ARE dumb, Private Pyle, but do you expect me to believe you don't know right from left?
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Re: I'm olde enough to remember when very qualified
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Crash over here trying to equate firing based on health standards with firing based on no standards.
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Lawyer says astounding purge will cost government, after workers with positiv
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Morgan & Morgan and their ilk will be happy to sue the chit out of the Federal Agencies for incredibly sloppy HR separation practices.
https://apple.news/AspOiLro4QE2lB86RquzA0A
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Awesome!***
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"Hey everybody!"
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"I'm a bigger piece of shit than clemchem!"
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