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New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 3:29 PM
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Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
With classes set to begin on Wednesday, Clemson held its final practice of fall camp Tuesday afternoon in Jervey Meadows. The media was allowed to attend for a short 30 minutes and we have several observations to pass along before we meet with the players and coaches for post practice interviews. Full Story » |
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 3:43 PM
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 7:57 PM
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never know when a Quarter back will get hurt.
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How did Bryant look throwing the ball?*****
Aug 22, 2017, 3:59 PM
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the fact that i keep reading the qb competition
Aug 22, 2017, 4:06 PM
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may very well still be on during the season isnt a good thing..its means bryant really hasnt separated as a passer.
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The only ones saying qb competition are web site writers
Aug 22, 2017, 4:15 PM
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and message boards dweebs that can't handle the decision that Dabo has made. He's named his starter,his #1 QB ,deal with it.
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he threw like garbage in the spring game
Aug 22, 2017, 5:25 PM
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vs defenses like fsu he will need more than just his feet
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He also had a torn tendon in his throwing hand
Aug 22, 2017, 6:30 PM
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but don't let facts get in your way.
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Re: he threw like garbage in the spring game
Aug 23, 2017, 11:42 AM
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Did you see Action Jackson throw the ball last year? Because I sure didn't. But the dude won a Heistman anyway. Go figure.
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Re: the fact that i keep reading the qb competition
Aug 22, 2017, 7:05 PM
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To me it means the coaches have to keep the door open due to the talent he has already in and coming in. Leaving the door open keeps guys like Hunter around and the same will happen next year with Lawrence. You have to make those guys stay in the race or they will transfer.
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Re: the fact that i keep reading the qb competition
Aug 22, 2017, 8:41 PM
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A nice assessment by The GM.
I think that has to factor in.ESPECIALLY when there's not much seperation..
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Is their separation in talent with knowledge of playbook?
Aug 22, 2017, 11:30 PM
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I would say yes. Look at h.s. recruiting rankings. Having said that, lets see what happens.
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Re: the fact that i keep reading the qb competition
Aug 22, 2017, 7:05 PM
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To me it means the coaches have to keep the door open due to the talent he has already in and coming in. Leaving the door open keeps guys like Hunter around and the same will happen next year with Lawrence. You have to make those guys stay in the race or they will transfer.
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Re: the fact that i keep reading the qb competition
Aug 23, 2017, 9:17 AM
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I hope that we roll up the points regardless of which QB is on the field! I am not interested in separation, I want to see excellence whether we are running or passing.
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Re: How did Bryant look throwing the ball?*****
Aug 22, 2017, 4:30 PM
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I was about to ask the same thing. Nobody ever comments on this, not even the coaches that I've heard. You'd think they would emphasize that he was throwing it well if he was since accuracy is the biggest question mark for him.
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Re: How did Bryant look throwing the ball?*****
Aug 22, 2017, 5:49 PM
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Actually there's a whole article on this. Hunter Renfrow explains how KB has been by far the most consistent passer we have and has been putting balls on the money every time. Compares him to "like Deshaun" with his ability to scramble to find an open receiver first and then run and that he doesn't freak out to just run if can't instantly find someone like he used to.
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Re: What? Do you read the post practice interviews?***
Aug 22, 2017, 7:17 PM
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I've read every post practice report. I've read that he's been the most "consistent", but haven't specifically heard what exactly he's doing better and nothing about his throwing ability. Link me to it if you don't mind.
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Linsey Graham? I thought Coach Swinney only allowed
Aug 22, 2017, 4:12 PM
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Men to attend practice.
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Re: Linsey Graham? I thought Coach Swinney only allowed
Aug 22, 2017, 9:43 PM
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What is wrong with you dude?
Your mother should have taught you better---if you just need to be a comedian, take it somewhere else.
If you don't have anything good to say about people or to add to the content then keep your mouth shut. I don't agree with everything that Our Senator does or says, but your comment is totally inappropriate.
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Re: Linsey Graham? I thought Coach Swinney only allowed
Aug 22, 2017, 10:27 PM
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LapDog Lindsey is a pitiful excuse of a Republican. He may be your Sentor but he sure as heck isn't mine. He's turned his back on his base.
He needs to be in DC doing some work instead of hanging out at practice.
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Re: He does too much damage when he is in
Aug 23, 2017, 11:59 AM
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DC. Keep him away.
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If I'm a WR on an opposing team...
Aug 22, 2017, 4:17 PM
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My head is on a swivel at all times with Simmons and Muse back there. That's just scary to think about.
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Re: If I'm a WR on an opposing team...
Aug 22, 2017, 4:49 PM
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I agree. Can't wait to see them turn receivers into peanut butter and jelly.
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Re: If I'm a WR on an opposing team...
Aug 23, 2017, 10:14 AM
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I'm telling you. We thought we saw some booming hits from J. Kearse. Muse is about to bring the pain. I'm ready for his highlight reel after he's finished with Clemson.
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Re: If I'm a WR on an opposing team...
Aug 23, 2017, 11:34 AM
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I think Muse and Simmons are playing the same safety spot ... Simmons will play some nickel but I expect O'Daniel to play a lot of snaps this year, I have read his coverage skills are much improved.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons Muse
Aug 22, 2017, 4:25 PM
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My only fear with Muse and Simmons is the lack of game experience.
We did a much better job in 2016 than in 2015 giving up big plays. Most times those big plays were a result of being overly aggressive, and getting out of position.
Still, I think we'll be fine, and can't wait to see them line up.
The depth that has been created in Dabo's system still blows me away. He truly has created a program that can sustain this level of play for years to come.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 4:34 PM
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All the QBs can hand off or take off and run.
We have got to have a QB that can throw it.
If just knowing the playbook means you start , then we might be in trouble.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 4:46 PM
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Except that's not what the coaches are saying. They have spoken about his passing ability and his improvement. Every one on here acting like he needs to become the best passing QB are missing what this offense is all about. He doesn't have to the best passer.... Just good enough. He is the best runner and THAT is huge. The coaches have stressed his decision making ability is far and away ahead of the others.
Sounds clear to me.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 6:03 PM
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This Offense has to have multiple looks ,any spread O that becomes one dimensional will not score much.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 6:19 PM
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Golf clap....
No kidding....
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The AAAAAAA++++receivers will make KB a better passer**
Aug 22, 2017, 5:14 PM
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just like they did Boyd - ( thinking we miss TE Jordan Leggett more than anyone ?? ) last year,when DW4 didn't run much,we seemed to stall* -- Kelly is a real threat to run & the receivers will get open for the passes -- will drive a defense crazy !! GO TIGERS !!!!
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 5:36 PM
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Here is what I'm most concerned about with any QB we have. We are called WRU for a reason. That reason is bc we have been great at getting our receivers the ball, and bc of that, that is the main reason that we bring in the best WR talent in the country with their #1 reason is that we get receivers drafted in the 1st round. Now, if we have a QB that his best traits are running the ball, what is that going to do for recruiting WRs if we don't have a QB getting them the ball enough to get them drafted in the 1st round? Will we continue to bring in top WR talent with a QB that can run his asss off. We are already being dirty recruited against, so what will coaches tell WR recruits about Clemson QB?
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TL next year and who knows down the road. It's all good.***
Aug 22, 2017, 5:46 PM
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a QB that doesn't know the playbook is going to be worse
Aug 22, 2017, 6:06 PM
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than the QB that does. as far as we know, KB doesn't have the arm talent of Coop or Johnson, but his arm is enough of a weapon, as far as we know, to give Dabo confidence to name him the starter for game 1... and really, that's all we need to know until he goes out in a game and doesn't move the team. we have coaches that built a champion for us to enjoy, trust their process...
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Re: a QB that doesn't know the playbook is going to be worse
Aug 23, 2017, 10:26 AM
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Seriously the best comment I've seen made on this situation. Lets let the games play out and we'll see what happens. If KB goes out and kills it no harm no foul. Everyone is happy because we are still winning games.
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I absolutely do NOT trust Aaron Taylor attending
Aug 22, 2017, 5:58 PM
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our practices... he was such a ###### giving his analysis that day he decided to showcase his dictionary dot com word of the day... I don't trust that he would maintain journalistic integrity and not attempt to share a detailed scouting report to the domers if we were playing them this year but just might get friendly with Gus or Jimbo to spite Dabo and the team...
I know it's my personal take but he strikes me of the kind of guy that hangs with you but always flirts with your girl...
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Cole Stoudt won the starting job over Deshawn Watson & Kelly
Aug 22, 2017, 6:36 PM
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Because he had seniority
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Cole Stoudt wasn't named the starter until after Chad Kelly
Aug 22, 2017, 9:04 PM
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had been kicked off the team and Deshaun had a broken collar bone.
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 6:36 PM
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Our OL practicing against our DL is invaluable for both , really .
OL will only face a couple of teams this year during the reg season that even come close to the talent we have overall on our DL ( FSU, NCST, maybe Auburn ).
As Dabo is always repeating ...Iron sharpens Iron
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That's working both ways, now.... OL is a top 10, too.***
Aug 22, 2017, 7:53 PM
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Re: Saying NCST's DL comes close to ours???
Aug 22, 2017, 8:28 PM
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IMO - yes NCSU's defensive line comes close to ours. It's not equal but close.
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Re: There must be some reason NCSU should have won in D.V.
Aug 23, 2017, 3:31 PM
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No, it was Clemson coughing the ball up repeatedly in the red zone. Take away a couple of those mistakes and we are not even talking about that game.
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Great Highlights Reel for I. Simmons!
Aug 20, 2018, 9:19 PM
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This young man makes it look so easy. He is an athletic freak with his height and speed. He looks so graceful and smooth when he runs, and when he gets a step, he doesn't get caught. WRU is alive and well. Simmons will contribute much, IMO.
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I. Simmons is a DB not a WR...
Aug 23, 2017, 8:01 AM
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yes, WRU is alive and well but Simmons won't be catching passes from our QB, only from the other team's QB...
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Re: I. Simmons is a DB not a WR...
Aug 23, 2017, 3:33 PM
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But I bet you Christian Wilkins could catch a few passes.
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Wilkens would catch a few...
Aug 24, 2017, 3:24 PM
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but i bet you I. Simmons will catch 3 passes this year... they will be called interceptions rather than receptions, but he's going to catch them... ??
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 8:30 PM
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I am so excited about our prospects! We have much for which to be thankful, not the least of which is to wake up each morning a Tiger, rather than a coot. Think they are a bit jealous?
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Re: New Story: Tuesday practice observations: Simmons, Muse and QBs
Aug 22, 2017, 8:34 PM
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That was high praise for Chase Brice.
He's sort of the proverbial " stuck between a rock and a hard place" man.
SO MUCH positive press on him.
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