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New Story: Swinney has no clarity in "frustrating" kicking situation
Oct 24, 2017, 5:15 PM
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Nice bluff. This is all to keep GT on their toes.***
Oct 24, 2017, 5:23 PM
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Re: New Story: Swinney has no clarity in "frustrating" kicking situation
Oct 24, 2017, 5:25 PM
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Gardocki, Sims, Treadwell, Obed, Others
Oct 24, 2017, 6:35 PM
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Somehow Ford and his assts could recruit kickers and punters OR talented kickers and punters attended Clemson due to program's status.
Hard to say why Dabo's team's are so challenged on special teams including kickers and punters. Though punting has picked up this year.
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Re: Gardocki, Sims, Treadwell, Obed, Others
Oct 24, 2017, 6:43 PM
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In 1980, Georgia roughed punter David Sims and tore up his knee, and he was out for the remainder of the season. That injury contributed to us losing a couple of games too. Not many still remember it.
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Re: Gardocki, Sims, Treadwell, Obed, Others
Oct 24, 2017, 8:31 PM
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Oh yeah, I watched those games David Sims punted in - you needed to see that. He could make it fly, sky high, and pin 'em in back deep. No rugby kicks in those days.
And Obed Ariri kicked points on auto pilot. He led in offensive scoring. I remember that, after one of the home games, they had to run him over to the soccer field in time to start that game for us.
Donald Igwebuike (hardest to pronounce of any player we've ever had) also phenomenal as a kicker. National Championship team in '81.
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Treadwell so deadly***
Oct 24, 2017, 10:05 PM
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Re: Gardocki, Sims, Treadwell, Obed, Others
Oct 25, 2017, 6:44 PM
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I learned how to pronounce his name listening to Jim Phillips, but we usually just called him iggy biggy.
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the gap between high school performance
Oct 24, 2017, 6:49 PM
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and college performance is huge. Sometimes you recruit a kid and he just can't transition. It's just not as easy as Tnet makes out.
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Pinion, Catanzaro, Teasdall, Huegel, Lakip
Oct 24, 2017, 6:52 PM
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were not so challenged. Lakip's issue was drugs not talent.
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We do have a punter and kicker starting in the NFL
Oct 24, 2017, 8:02 PM
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I felt we've been pretty decent at those positions the past few years.
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Re: Gardocki, Sims, Treadwell, Obed, Others
Oct 25, 2017, 10:41 PM
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Even Welch was pretty good.
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Re: New Story: Swinney has no clarity in "frustrating" kicking situation
Oct 24, 2017, 9:57 PM
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I just gotta believe the Tigers will figure this out. Done it before, can do it again.
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If the situation really is that unclear...
Oct 25, 2017, 8:55 AM
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... then there's a clear solution. Run a play on 4th down if we are past the 40, no matter the distance, especially if KB is all the way healthy.
If you have a 16 versus a dealer 10, you hit every time. You lose less often over the long haul by hitting than by standing. Similar concept: Let's say you only make 1 out of 3 FG's (1 point per attempt avg). Assuming KB is healthy, let's conservatively say you convert a 4th down half the time and go on to score a TD a third of the time after that. The average points from going for it plus the remaining progress is 7/(2x3) = 7/6 ~ 1.2 points per attempt. 1.2 > 1. Hit on that 16.
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Re: If the situation really is that unclear...
Oct 25, 2017, 1:33 PM
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You live in Vegas?
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Re: If the situation really is that unclear...
Oct 25, 2017, 8:14 PM
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You don't always hit a 16 against a 10. Depends on the count. You do it about 92% of the time.
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Yeah... assuming one is not counting (alkeyhol)***
Oct 26, 2017, 9:51 AM
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Place Kickers College
Oct 25, 2017, 5:22 PM
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Honestly, recruiting good kickers has taken a big hit all across the nation.
It's just so easy to bring in 2 or 3 walk ons every year, and not really
evaluate who you have and what they are capable of.
For one, kick-offs are from the 35 in college, not the 40 like in HS.
Next, many kickers kick FGs in HS from a kicking block. Not from the ground
like in college/Pro. And that's a huge, huge adjustment for any kicker.
Kicking FGs is a repetitive motion; Over & over & over...
Although, some game pressure as well- BUT!! Ya have to wonder just how much
some of these guys are really putting in to it.
Good kickers need to be come more of priority.
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Re: Place Kickers College
Oct 25, 2017, 10:47 PM
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He said "past the 40 yard line". I think he was referring to Field Goals. But what I think he actually meant was past 40 yards. So, that would be the the 23 yard line. But the kicker missed 2 FG attempts against Syracuse, both inside the 23 yard line. One was not much longer than an extra point. Absolutely terrible. Championship teams can't have that.
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