|
Replies: 45
| visibility 1000
|
Webmaster [∞]
TigerPulse: 100%
∞
Posts: 44956
Joined: 2012
|
New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 7:23 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Hall of Famer [8870]
TigerPulse: 100%
43
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 7:30 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Offensive Star [308]
TigerPulse: 35%
15
|
Conservative playcalling
Oct 4, 2015, 7:43 PM
|
|
Does Dabo understand that even the best defenses need a rest? We went three and out the entire fourth quarter. Hence the comeback. We only have a one deep defense this year. We need to run clock when it's time to run clock. Then we will be great! Just like Bama
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4098]
TigerPulse: 94%
35
Posts: 10336
Joined: 1997
|
Re: Conservative playcalling
Oct 4, 2015, 7:45 PM
|
|
absolutely agree with all U said...and no one can run into a 9 man def/line
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20662]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 17499
Joined: 2005
|
Defense played 65 plays. Gave up 200 yards
Oct 4, 2015, 7:48 PM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
In the 4th not because they were tired, but because they flat blew coverages
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16781]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27000
Joined: 2003
|
They were gassed in the 4th, even coot and idiots could see
Oct 4, 2015, 8:01 PM
|
|
that
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20662]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 17499
Joined: 2005
|
They were gassed because they blew coverages
Oct 4, 2015, 8:03 PM
|
|
and we're chasing guys running 40-50 yard sprints to catch them. ND didn't have 50 plays coming in to the 4th quarter, so no, they were not gassed in the sense you are speaking of
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [6879]
TigerPulse: 99%
41
|
gassed because of lack of line and linebacker depth!***
Oct 5, 2015, 1:00 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16781]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27000
Joined: 2003
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3433]
TigerPulse: 91%
34
|
Re: They were gassed because they blew coverages
Oct 5, 2015, 11:53 AM
[ in reply to They were gassed because they blew coverages ] |
|
Um, I think the argument could certainly be made that they blew coverages because they were gassed. When your offense is just going 3 & out nonstop, the defense is going to get gassed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [20662]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 17499
Joined: 2005
|
Defense ha played less than 50 snaps entering 4th quarter
Oct 5, 2015, 1:07 PM
|
|
guess we need to start the blame Batson threads if they were tired
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Immortal [61351]
TigerPulse: 100%
60
Posts: 47758
Joined: 2000
|
I thought the same thing after ND started coming back,
Oct 4, 2015, 7:50 PM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
but it's always easy with the benefit of hindsight. After considering the weather, and the fact that we had dominated both lines of scrimmage for 3 quarters, it made perfect sense at the time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Phenom [14935]
TigerPulse: 100%
49
Posts: 12319
Joined: 2006
|
I still think with the weather what it was running the ball
Oct 4, 2015, 7:54 PM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
in the 4th was the right call.
Both teams had WRs dropping balls all night.
There was a very real risk of a tipped ball going the other way. Incompletions stop the clock and save ND timeouts.
I think going 'conservative' was the smart plan last night.
Now, down the road if we're playing a game like that at home in 68 degree weather, I'd say we need to go for the jugular but not in the monsoon we had last night.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14090]
TigerPulse: 78%
48
Posts: 25447
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2783]
TigerPulse: 100%
33
|
He at least owned up to it
Oct 4, 2015, 8:14 PM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
that should be (I hope) a sign of learning from your mistakes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1788]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: Conservative playcalling
Oct 4, 2015, 8:31 PM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
Your feathers are showing
Bwak Bwak Bwak
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [41635]
TigerPulse: 100%
57
Posts: 43317
Joined: 1998
|
I don't think he understands that at all, maybe you could
Oct 5, 2015, 5:28 AM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
send him an email and explain it to him. That way he could change so it doesn't happen again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Asst Coach [706]
TigerPulse: 100%
22
|
Re: Conservative playcalling
Oct 5, 2015, 6:54 AM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
How about giving ND some credit for stringing together some good plays and their OL giving time to put them together. We were shutting them down all night, and it really took some luck for them to be able to put it all together so well in the 4th quarter. Good teams can do this. Clemson was strong enough to hold on and fight them off in the end and still win.
That sliding catch was something of beauty for ND, and made me sick to my stomach...because we HAD them covered. Great play.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ring of Honor [23037]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 23946
Joined: 2003
|
Same thing that happened against UGA last year.
Oct 5, 2015, 11:44 AM
[ in reply to Conservative playcalling ] |
|
Except this time we survived.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tiger Cub [14]
TigerPulse: 84%
2
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 7:52 PM
|
|
So they were looking ahead to GT while prepping for ND? That's what the article said.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Conference [440]
TigerPulse: 97%
17
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 7:59 PM
|
|
I'm sure they did mix in some GaTech.
They sixteen days to prep why not mix in some?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Immortal [65761]
TigerPulse: 100%
60
Posts: 18839
Joined: 2008
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rock Defender [59]
TigerPulse: 81%
6
|
Looking ahead to GT?
Oct 4, 2015, 7:59 PM
[ in reply to Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings ] |
|
Read the article again. They were NOT "looking ahead to GT." In preparing for ND and watching film of them, they also got to see GT because ND played them. When you analyze a team in film study, you look to see what their opponent did and how the focus team reacted. So voila!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Commissioner [992]
TigerPulse: 100%
24
|
Re: Are we really built
Oct 4, 2015, 8:18 PM
|
|
to run the clock out? I personally think we need a little more beef in the OL. We have the type offense that is hard to let off the gas. However, I will take a win in any shape or form.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Immortal [65761]
TigerPulse: 100%
60
Posts: 18839
Joined: 2008
|
Re: Are we really built
Oct 4, 2015, 8:28 PM
|
|
Where we fell short on that was earlier, late in third quarter when we were snapping the ball with around 20 seconds left on the play clock. If we had taken an extra 10 off each snap, the last TD ND made might not have happened.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Asst Coach [844]
TigerPulse: 96%
23
|
Re: Are we really built
Oct 5, 2015, 12:02 PM
[ in reply to Re: Are we really built ] |
|
we have the best OL since Dabo has been HC...... The Freshmen and Sophomores will beef up....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Team Captain [450]
TigerPulse: 100%
18
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recruit [97]
TigerPulse: 93%
10
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 8:39 PM
[ in reply to Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings ] |
|
It's pretty obvious that ND played GT recently so both teams were in the films we were studying... there was no "looking ahead", it was purely coincidental that they got some studying in on both teams like that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Freshman [0]
TigerPulse: 100%
1
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 9:37 PM
[ in reply to Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings ] |
|
I don't think they were "looking ahead" when Dabo mentioned seeing GA Tech some in their preparations, I think that was the case because Tech played (and lost to) ND the week prior. Seems obvious that they would study that game for takeaways from both teams.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Trainer [31]
TigerPulse: 91%
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3194]
TigerPulse: 99%
34
|
Idk why we didn't try to run a few WR screens towards the end
Oct 4, 2015, 8:30 PM
|
|
The run game was getting stuffed, we should of tried something different. WR screens usually seem work for us and getting positive yardage. I know, let the changes do there job but this is just my opinion on what we should have done
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recruit [97]
TigerPulse: 93%
10
|
Re: Idk why we didn't try to run a few WR screens towards the end
Oct 4, 2015, 8:40 PM
|
|
Well it's more likely to get picked in that situation. I think we just went with too many slow developing QB runs instead of simply letting Gallman bulldoze through.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Team Captain [489]
TigerPulse: 100%
18
|
Re: Idk why we didn't try to run a few WR screens towards the end
Oct 4, 2015, 9:15 PM
|
|
Scott holds onto that TD and we are discussing this. I'm glad we went conservative and didn't turn the ball over in the fourth like they did. They had to go balls out just to tie it and they took a lot of risks and turned the ball over a lot. The weather was so much worse in the second half. I agree with trying to hold a lead but when you are doing that, you can't go hurry up just to run up the gut. You gotta let that clock run. I will still say that that was the most fun I've ever had at a Clemson game in the 30 years I've been attending. Something felt special last night. It's almost like the rain wasn't there for the crowd. Bring on the jackets.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2288]
TigerPulse: 92%
32
|
|
|
|
|
|
Trainer [49]
TigerPulse: 84%
5
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 8:39 PM
|
|
If we would have won by 30 people would be saying "why did we play our starters in that weather so long"....some people are never happy. The guy behind me last night didn't make a sound the whole game until we made a mistake...then he had plenty to say. We're not great yet, but we are good and learning to be great. I'll probably be criticized as well. Bring it! Go Tigers! See you next week
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Beast [6191]
TigerPulse: 92%
40
Posts: 12750
Joined: 2008
|
Yep, you are right!***
Oct 4, 2015, 8:43 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Conference [405]
TigerPulse: 100%
17
|
I absolutely have the answer
Oct 4, 2015, 9:41 PM
|
|
Leave the coaching to Dabo and Crew. So glad you guys don't coach the game. 41-0 when going in to 4th qtr with a lead. There is a formula with this coaching staff and it works. The psychological aspect that started with Coach Swinney instilling the belief in his players that they can win under any circumstance is no doubt the confidence that they carry into any game. And I am so glad he doesn't waste his time taking suggestions from the peanut gallery. Great teams rise and fall with leadership. We have an outstanding leader and though we like to second guess decisions from the staff at times, there is not a fan on this site that wants to win more than the least of the coaches. Just keepin it real....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Member [21]
TigerPulse: 88%
3
|
AMEN! ^^^^^^^^***
Oct 5, 2015, 7:46 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Asst Coach [844]
TigerPulse: 96%
23
|
Re: I absolutely have the answer
Oct 5, 2015, 12:24 PM
[ in reply to I absolutely have the answer ] |
|
If you saw Dabo at the end of game... you could see how much he had put into this game as well... he was overcome a little ... took a minute to pray and/or compose himself .... by the time he was talking he was ready .....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2898]
TigerPulse: 100%
33
|
So your answer is Dabo is a semi-god?
Oct 5, 2015, 3:22 PM
[ in reply to I absolutely have the answer ] |
|
I don't believe anyone (well, maybe a few) doesn't think Dabo is doing a great job so try to understand fans comments in context; just because you make suggestions or don't understand why coaches do certain things, doesn't mean you're suggesting you know everything or that Dabo/staff are morons. There are plenty of people who understand the game and make very salient comments. Dabo is more right than wrong but he is wrong sometimes. Fans that act like he is perfect are not only mindless, they are not looking out for what is best for Clemson.
Let me ask you a question, if we could replay the game, do you think Dabo would change some of his decisions? How about BV? our OC's? Of course they would. So, while every Tiger fan I know is very, very pleased with Dabo, if you want to keep it real, recognize he ain't god.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [840]
TigerPulse: 83%
23
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 4, 2015, 11:43 PM
|
|
amazing how i was cursed for being aggravated at playcalling last night, and tonight, everyone agrees with me
|
|
|
|
|
|
Trainer [39]
TigerPulse: 96%
4
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 5, 2015, 11:18 AM
|
|
Yeah cdfrisch. Its all about you... lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [6879]
TigerPulse: 99%
41
|
Let's use Zac Brooks like N. O. uses Spiller...one carry for
Oct 5, 2015, 1:39 AM
|
|
9 yds and no passes to him that I remember and he is best receiver among the rb's!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3433]
TigerPulse: 91%
34
|
Re: Let's use Zac Brooks like N. O. uses Spiller...one carry for
Oct 5, 2015, 11:56 AM
|
|
Yea, I don't understand why we're not getting the ball to him more. If we were going to go ultra-conservative with the football, and only the ball, why not Gallman & Brooks in the backfield together and have them pound the rock?
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1052]
TigerPulse: 100%
25
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 5, 2015, 6:39 AM
|
|
Middle of the field was open and ND exploited that. Our LB's had trouble dropping back in coverage fast enough in the 4th. The defense was tired as they should have been. While I understand the reasons to play conservative, running up the middle seemed like a wasted effort. ND had more trouble with our speed on the edges. Great Tiger win. More game experience and more tape to coach on. Now get ready for the Jackets.
|
|
|
|
|
|
null [null]
TigerPulse: null%
-1
|
Re: New Story: Sunday night update: Conservative playcalling and rankings
Oct 5, 2015, 6:01 PM
|
|
When we ran on 2nd and 5+ resulted in ZERO 1st downs on 2nd and 3rd down, that I can remember
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 45
| visibility 1000
|
|
|
50
