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All-In [10559]
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Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Lots of interesting stuff in here about how he wanted to go to Oregon, almost transferred after sophomore year and NIL…. Classes and education as well
https://youtu.be/S9Q6elqwqnQ?si=qSC-nKhfV3oW2Ajn
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The NIL and Portal are going to kill college sports, especially football.***
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Oct 16, 2024, 1:33 PM
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Rival Killer [3047]
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The facts say otherwise
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Oct 16, 2024, 1:39 PM
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More game attendence than ever.
More TV viewership than ever.
More profits for the schools than ever.
Revenue sharing to ALL sports next year.
Vanderbilt beating Alabama.
Things are actually better than ever.
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TigerNet Icon [155329]
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sorry, but in my opinion, just give it time.***
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Oct 16, 2024, 1:44 PM
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Rival Killer [3047]
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We already have.
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:16 PM
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We're 5 years in and it's better than ever.
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: We already have.
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Oct 22, 2024, 10:54 PM
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No it is not a better product. Viewership and revenue being up does not make it better. I like the playoff structure which was a long time coming but that is the only thing that is better than before COVID. I have a sense that unfortunately our Tigers will soon start to start to struggle. We are starting to see the cracks in recruiting in the new NIL world. I hope I am wrong.
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CU Medallion [19700]
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I agree. This season so far has had outstanding entertainment value.
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Seemingly more parity in the upper echelons. Last weekend may be an anomaly and I’m suffering recency bias … but wow!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99512]
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Get help for the echolalia******
Oct 16, 2024, 8:05 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3538]
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Re: Get help for the echolalia******
Oct 16, 2024, 8:08 PM
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Wouldn’t echolalia also apply to you???
I mean every thread about NIL, Rev Share, Coaching Salaries, NCAA, etc has you you saying the same things over and under over again
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Rival Killer [3047]
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False equivalence
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Oct 17, 2024, 6:21 AM
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I discuss issues. I don't generally post insane comments with zero content like the one I responded to here.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference for anyone with the power to discern.
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Campus Hero [13853]
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It's adding parity
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:13 PM
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Your other points are all debatable going forward. Actually i don't think the more profits for schools is even debatable at all. Profits are going to drop when revenue sharing gets passed, and i doubt that's going to be a good thing for ALL sports either.
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Other sports athletes' sharing in revenue.
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:17 PM
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How,exactly is that a bad thing?
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Athletic Dir [1158]
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The most important fact, and the only one that counts
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Oct 16, 2024, 5:30 PM
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Is that Clemson can’t compete long term in salary benefit bidding. Even after the profit sharing thing is in play, there's nothing to prevent NIKE from buying players for Oregon. That can’t happen in professional sports since the players are lol under contract, they have a draft, and there are salary caps.
As it stands right now we are at a huge disadvantage.
That’s a fact
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Rival Killer [3047]
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That's a canard.
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Oct 16, 2024, 6:04 PM
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If repeated, but untrue.
Clemson is #17 in NIL in the country.
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Get help for the echolalia.***
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Oct 16, 2024, 8:06 PM
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Commissioner [1210]
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Says the jock sniffing, player groupie..
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Oct 17, 2024, 4:03 AM
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Don't you have a pride parade to attend, twinkle toes?
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Trump 2024!!!
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Oct 17, 2024, 6:34 AM
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Don't you like the Tommy Bowden purple helmets?
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Game Changer [1948]
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Re: The facts say otherwise
Oct 22, 2024, 1:44 AM
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worst game experience... TV timeouts suck the life out of everything
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Re: The facts say otherwise
Oct 22, 2024, 2:28 AM
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Stupid take.
1. It's not really true that game attendance is up at all. It's a mixed bag. Some attendances are up, some are down. https://www.d1ticker.com/2023-fbs-attendance-trends/
2. It's also not true that TV viewership is up. It's pretty stagnant. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-playoff-ratings-bcs-history/
3. It's stupid to just say profits are up. What's important is how competitively balanced the sport is. Profits are up tremendously for the SEC and Big Ten. They're not up for the ACC or Big Ten. And they're down for many G5 programs. And this is just a last gasp of TV to remain around. If it weren't for the NFL, the networks would go under. They're trying to secure TV rights to any sports because they're so desperate.
4. We'll see about all sports. I personally believe it will end up where some schools can pay all athletes, and other cannot. We'll have Title IX issues and many smaller programs shuttering their programs.
5. Who cares if Vandy beat Alabama? Upsets happen all the time and NIL and the transfer portal didn't cause this. In 2007, FCS App State beat #5 Michigan. In 2010, James Madison beat #10 Virginia Tech. Also in 2007, Stanford was a 42 point underdog to USC and beat them. Those are all much bigger upsets than this.
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Dynasty Maker [3135]
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Re: The facts say otherwise
Oct 22, 2024, 10:58 PM
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Are F&B sales counted in the profits? If so, the booze sales are driving some of the increase as well as ticket prices going up.
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Re: The facts say otherwise
Oct 23, 2024, 8:03 AM
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With 8% inflation you always get to say profits are up. That is one of the reasons inflation exists. A stealth tax that allows politicians and idiots to claim "growth growth growth!"
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Not so fast...
Oct 23, 2024, 9:29 AM
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Overall attendence is up. A few thousand less at a MAC stadium doesn't offset the increased attendence at a lot of P5 schools, stadium expansions, etc.
The TV viewership rating don't include streaming viewers, from what I can tell.
There are multiple, non traditional ways to watch.
Stupid to cite facts? No, it's stupid to say that the single most important t fact - profits - don't matter. Balance dies t matter except to losers.
Small sports shuttering? So what? If they can't stand in their own, that's not football or basketball's problem.
Turkey IX? I'd pay to watch a women's four all league. Death Valley on bye Weeks and away games for the men.
Upsets? You're arguing out of both dudes of your mouth. Either the upsets are a sign that there is still parity or the "no parity" argument is bogus. We both know which one it is.
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Paw Master [16854]
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Because the players are getting $ now too? How did you feel about the coaches
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:10 PM
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getting $50 million dollar contracts?
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Rival Killer [3047]
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Oct 22, 2024, 8:32 AM
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I think it's killing it more for the fans, not so much the revenue they're bringing in. All it's really doing for most teams is causing lack of chemistry and effecting the locker room. It's going away, but I think they'll eventually be guidelines and more rules involved in it rather than just open Free Agency each year. They just opened that can of worms with no guidelines and people went crazy with it.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:01 PM
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Sounds like he wanted LSU but coach O left and he wanted Clemson. Then end soph/beginning Jr Oregon came calling and Dabo agreed to, I assume, more NIL $.
Very eye opening interview. Thank you for posting.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:07 PM
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Kinda taking shots 🤷♂️🤷♂️
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All-In [10559]
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Man I honestly couldnt even really tell
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:10 PM
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I just don’t think he’s very mature or intellectually mature yet in life.
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Re: Man I honestly couldnt even really tell
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:16 PM
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Weird interview for sure, glad he played here but the whole mindset of “oh I wanted to transfer here” is exactly what’s wrong with CFB. See kids making business decisions instead of playing all out on Saturdays now
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Paw Master [16854]
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It's a business now, has been for years***
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Rival Killer [3047]
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It always has been a business.
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:19 PM
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Ask the coaches they have gotten rich from it.
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CU Medallion [20933]
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Lets call it for what it is
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Oct 22, 2024, 7:01 AM
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…..it’s not paying outlandish money for the sport it’s who’s finally getting paid they don’t like.
Middle aged white men ok. Poor black kids, not ok. Let’s just call it for what it is.
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Re: Man I honestly couldnt even really tell
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:47 PM
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I agree. He stood up for DJ, Cade, his team and honesty for Dabo.
The guy interviewing him was kind of a dbag.
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Orange Phenom [14539]
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The guy interviewing him is Marlon Humprey (Alabama)
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Oct 21, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Who got abused a few times by our receivers in the 2015 and 2016.
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Re: The guy interviewing him is Marlon Humprey (Alabama)
Oct 22, 2024, 12:38 AM
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Ahhh that makes a lot of sense. Thanks
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:09 PM
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That's honestly one of the greatest interviews I've seen.
Nice to see an Athlete just being honest for once.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 6:46 PM
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He wasn’t being honest.
Nate claimed that he decomitted from LSU after Coach O got fired. That’s not true. Coach O got fired during Nate’s freshman season at Clemson.
Since he lied about that, it’s safe to assume he wasn’t being honest about anything.
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Orange Elite [5160]
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:10 PM
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This is painful to watch
I did find it funny that DJ was pushing 280-300 lbs at Clemson!
We could all see it, but now we have confirmation
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If the players don’t go to class how do they get a degree from Clemson…Sad….
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Gonna be tough for Dabo to get Nate to come back and get his degree. He clearly didn't and doesn't value education. Nate's still a your guy so maybe he grows up and realizes the importance of it in time. However, seems he might be added to the list of 7 or 8 guys who under Dabo's head coaching tenure at Clemson never got their degree. He still hand writes letters every year to each guy to come back and get their degree.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:37 PM
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That’s the great thing about Dabo. He never gives up on these guys. Great man.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 2:59 PM
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How did he pass any of his classes without studying? I thought Dabo had rules about this type of thing.
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National Champion [7454]
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Oct 16, 2024, 3:04 PM
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Back when I was at Clemson I heard that Vickery Hall has a copy of pretty much every test/exam with the answers.
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
Oct 22, 2024, 11:31 PM
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my son was a football/athletic tutor in his clemson student days. The program was a tight ship and lived up to the honor code.
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Legend [7041]
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
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Oct 16, 2024, 6:44 PM
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Nate lied about decomitting from LSU after Coach O was fired.
Coach O was fired during the 2021 season, which was Nate’s freshman season at Clemson.
Because of that, it’s safe to assume that Nate grossly exaggerated virtually everything that he said in this podcast
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Clemson Sports Icon [54787]
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
Oct 21, 2024, 11:22 PM
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You got it wrong about nate. He wasn't lying and he didn't grossly exaggerate the truth. He's a good dood and he's straight up. What nate said has been said by other Clemson players. That's why our recruiting has gone down. Dabo controls the narrative, bet on it.
Dabo can play that awe shucks character but he knows what's said by the fanbase.
Anyway, nate said he was committed to lsu after his freshman year when he wanted to leave. That's when he was going to lsu, not that he committed to lsu to begin with.
Keep thinking lil ole Dabo is lily white.
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Oct 16, 2024, 8:18 PM
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Total embarrassment, I thought every student at CU was
required to take public speaking and technical writing?
I hope that Nate makes it on the big stage and saves his $$.
Agents are taking these kids to woodshed.
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Oct 17, 2024, 6:38 AM
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These two interviewers are horrible. They had no idea what they were talking about.
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Oct 21, 2024, 4:15 PM
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Nate lowkey making us look terrible... at least he's shooting from the hip.
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Marlborocountycoot = cutigerinflorida = thescoreathalftime
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Re: Nate Wiggins NIL interview
Oct 22, 2024, 8:20 AM
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That middle host seems very unprepared and distracting for his guest. Let people talk, quit interrupting.
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