Re: Mahomes vs Brady

MBerkely2000 said:

Brady: 6 superbowls, undefeated against mahomes except for only loss in the 2020 regular season, put up better stats in a much tougher era, and is widely considered the GOAT.
Mahomes: 4 superbowls, only beat Brady once, put up worse stats in a worse era, ESPN love him more than the SEC, he also hasn’t beaten teams that were anywhere near the level of teams Brady beat.
I’ll let all debate below 👇

Brady, quicker release in real time. Brady did more with less. Mahomet is really good. I think the NFL is a little more on the entertainment side of the game now a days.

I'm good at math, but this I can't do in my head. What are the chances a team (Chiefs) win 10 of 13 games by one score or less this season without outside interference? I'm going to guess about .005

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Dec 16, 2024, 8:28 PM

Not even close yet. You're underselling Brady and overselling Mahomes.

Mahomes only has 3 Super Bowls. He's been to 4. Brady went to 9 and won 7 Super Bowls.

Mahomes isn't super young any more. He's almost 30. He needs to play for another 14 seasons without any drop off in production to pass Brady statistically.

Brady did it for a very long time with tremendously different teams. Mahomes has only produced with Andy Reid as his coach and with superstars around him.

As you said, the NFL is only a shadow of what it was. Rules have weakened defenses tremendously. It is far, far easier to rack up passing yards and TDs today than it was in 2005. In 2005, the average passing stats for a starting QB was 2,937 yards, 18 touchdowns, and 14 interceptions. Last year, the average stats have been 3,353 yards, 25 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions. That's a huge difference.

There's much less competitive balance than there was. Think of elite QBs during Brady's prime, all of which he dominated. Just in 2007, Brady's huge statistics year, we had Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Tony Romo, Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, and Philip Rivers. That's such a different level of QB than what we see now.

I do think Mahomes is good. But I expect he'll be an Aaron Rodgers type. Where ESPN will dote on him and rave about him because it helps their ratings, but he'll ultimately be considered short when compared to the greats. Brady won more against better competition. He had better stats against better defenses. And he did it at a time when more people cared.

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