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Letterman [162]
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Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:40 PM
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He is Just better.
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CU Medallion [20633]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:41 PM
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He is #1, but someone has to tell Spiller.
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Top TigerNet [29344]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 5:30 PM
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I think someone needs to tell Shipley. And even if they did I don’t think Shipley would accept it. He’d just keep running out first anyways.
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TigerNet Immortal [168122]
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Been saying it all season.
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:42 PM
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Sooner or later they can’t ignore the difference.
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110%er [3971]
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Mafah needs to improve in Pass blocking
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:46 PM
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For him to be better than Shipley
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Dynasty Maker [3187]
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Re: Mafah needs to improve in Pass blocking
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:57 PM
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Shipley can’t block either. They are both equally terrible at blocking.
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National Champion [7944]
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Mafah has always been the better blocker than
Sep 30, 2023, 5:10 PM
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Shipley - yes, he missed the assignment on the fumble last week but he has been the better blocker for 3 years
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Clemson Conqueror [11620]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:43 PM
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Both Ship and Mafah are good. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
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Orange Beast [6273]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:44 PM
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Mafah is my favorite player in the team. He is a bull running.
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Orange Immortal [62099]
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I know, for some reason, that's the bandwagon take
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:45 PM
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right now, but I still see a really good Shipley running hard and getting it done. I love 'em both and like the way we use them, and would have no real problem if Mafah got more carries, I just don't see that he's "better" than Shipley, or has separated in any way.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: I know, for some reason, that's the bandwagon take
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:58 PM
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I agree. Both very similar. Shipley has slightly better short area quickness but both are plodders. Wish one had break away speed.
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Orange Immortal [62099]
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I think Shipley is more explosive and has quicker feet,
Sep 30, 2023, 4:02 PM
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but Mafah is just bigger and stronger, like a bull. Shipley runs extremely hard though, and both are hard to bing down. Neither has elite top end speed, but Shipley has a good burst. Both are good receivers. Both are going to play a lot regardless.
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All-In [10807]
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Re: I think Shipley is more explosive and has quicker feet,
Sep 30, 2023, 4:07 PM
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Hard to bring down? I love Ship, he runs hard but he gets arm toe tackled more than any RB I can remember at Clemson. He runs head down too much.
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Standout [312]
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Re: I think Shipley is more explosive and has quicker feet,
Sep 30, 2023, 5:06 PM
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Jamie Harper says Hi
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Orange Immortal [62099]
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Orange Beast [6579]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 3:45 PM
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I don't know. Shipley needs a smaller hole and our oline isn't exactly opening up large holes.
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Solid Orange [1375]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:46 PM
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No he's not. Shipley is the leading rusher on the team. Same as last year. This offensive line is just not very good. Mafah doesn't get these big runs consistently. I'm not knocking him, but you are hoping off one or two plays, and you can't do that.
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Letterman [162]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 3:48 PM
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It’s yards per carry. Mafah 6.7. Ship 5.3
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National Champion [7851]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 3:51 PM
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but sh1p has usually been given those wash, rinse, repeat runs up the middle
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Solid Orange [1375]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 4:49 PM
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Mafah has that average because of the run against Florida St.
Take today for example. Mafah has 8 carries for 43 yards, 5.4 per carry. His long run was 32 yards. The rest of the time, he had 7 carries for 11 yards, for 1.6 per carry.
Again, I'm not knocking Mafah. He's a good player. You are just looking at stats, and not the actual execution.
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All-In [10129]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 4:56 PM
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He just appears more explosive. That’s an armchair Coach’s opinion for sure but that’s what you see when you’re ignorant like me
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Solid Orange [1375]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
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Sep 30, 2023, 4:58 PM
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Mafah isn't more explosive.
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 3:51 PM
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Shipley is the leading rusher because he gets the most carries. He has the lowest YPC of any of our top 6 running backs, though.
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Solid Orange [1375]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 4:50 PM
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If Mafah got most of the carries, he would have the lowest ypc as well.
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Legend [6954]
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They both had touchdowns today.
Sep 30, 2023, 3:52 PM
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Great overall play by the RB room today.
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Hall of Famer [8962]
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Are you for real???? Great RB play today???***
Sep 30, 2023, 6:22 PM
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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Tell 'em coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 3:55 PM
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I don't know if he's better or not? Ship gives it all he's got every play and seldom gets tackled for loss.
His td was excellent as was the blocking on that play.
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Orange Blooded [2124]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 3:56 PM
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Such a terrible take. Shipley has 29 TDs from scrimmage in less than 2.5 seasons. That's more than Spiller had in 3 full seasons. Mafah has 10. Mafah has had a good two game stretch but before that Shipley better than him statistically in every way. I'm starting to notice a trend in the star players tnet tends to hate on. Shipley, Turner, Boulware, Muse.
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Rival Killer [2922]
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Valid argument for that. I dont like him horizontal
Sep 30, 2023, 3:57 PM
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Though. He needs to be North - South.
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Dynasty Maker [3301]
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Re: Valid argument for that. I dont like him horizontal
Sep 30, 2023, 4:09 PM
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I told my husband their freshmen year that I like Mafah better. I think he has the better chance to play in the NFL and is a better runner. Shipley has a lot of heart though and doesn’t give up. I give him a lot of credit for working hard and being a team player.
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Ring of Honor [23180]
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Ship is a great runner AND hes a better receiver.
Sep 30, 2023, 4:06 PM
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We need both to be successful.
~JKB
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Orange Beast [6117]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 4:52 PM
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Neither he nor Shipley are home run hitters.
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Game Changer [1887]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 4:59 PM
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He is better. He is also more mature and handles being #2 behind a guy that is simply the favorite son. Marah, is the more physical back and seems to read his blocks better. More NFL potential. Shipley will transfer if he gets demoted. Mafah is the team guy. I'd be good with Mafah and Haynes!!
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Letterman [189]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 5:02 PM
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He is better Yards per carry so far. I was shouting this on the 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 during the Florida State game… hand it to your 230lb back.
As far as #1 or #2 they both could be 1a/1b. It would be a tough call for sure. This year Mafah does seem to get the additional yards after contact more often
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Asst Coach [891]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 5:05 PM
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I'm in the minority. I'd rather see Haynes get some run as a compliment to both Mafah and Ship. I wouldn't bench them but Haynes is a different element we don't have out of the backfield with either one of those guys. They are hard runners. Neither is great in pass pro. I'd like a look at that 2 back set with Haynes being in there.
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National Champion [7944]
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I dont think youre in the minority by wanting to see more
Sep 30, 2023, 5:26 PM
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Haynes. The backs are good but are zero threat to beat a D to the edge this the middle is clogged. They know if they clog the middle and we do run outside that they can still get there to make a play. We might finally be stretching Ds a little bit vertically with better WR play but we are still squeezed horizontally and the screens aren’t spreading anyone out. He still makes mistakes but lucky to have the QB we do as the struggle would be greater without. Need more speed on O.
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Asst Coach [891]
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Re: I dont think youre in the minority by wanting to see more
Sep 30, 2023, 5:29 PM
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That speed is young and on the way.
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 5:34 PM
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Disagree 100%
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Heisman Winner [78590]
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He is!
Sep 30, 2023, 6:25 PM
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They both are, Moran.
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110%er [3834]
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Re: Mafah should be #1 RB
Sep 30, 2023, 6:25 PM
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shipley is a little wuss.
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Game Day Hero [4263]
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It is situational.
Sep 30, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Depends.
Mafah is slower to start and does not possess jump cut moves.
Mafah has a tough time getting to edge.
Mafah is not as good a receiver.
He does possess positives.
I like them both in.
I actually would like a fullback who is a beast blocker.
Would help out power game in short yardage.
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I prefer Mafahs running game and attitude.
Sep 30, 2023, 9:54 PM
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But Shipley seems to be the coaches’ favorite so he will be hard to supplant.
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