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TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:16 PM
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Excellent analysis Eric,, we all feel the same way brother... The O line appears to have just given up. Time to sit these guys down and bring up the new young ones and then go to the portal for next years Mega Dawgs!!!
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:17 PM
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And we have Woods and Murphy avoiding injury on the d side.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:30 PM
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Absolutely!!! IMHO, what Mac said was the absolute truth about the mess our offensive line has become but, it just isn't the O Line that has a major problem bc it seems that catching perfectly thrown balls is a major problem also.
IMHO, if Dabo doesn't make major coaching changes at the end of this season, next season will be a repeat of this season, and it will be sad for the players that expect their HC to hire quality position coaches that are capable of making them into better players than they were when they signed to play FB at Clemson. Players that come to Clemson expect to be coached by a top-level coaching staff that Clemson hasn't had in a while!!!
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Yes that's exactly what I think
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Oct 20, 2025, 9:35 PM
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Yes the players are making some money but the hopes of making an NFL team, which is every football players dream is being hampered by poor development and performance. The coaches are failing them as you also stated
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Meeeh whaddus he know....
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:16 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:19 PM
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Good analysis. Plus, I agree about the run game. It’s not that we can’t run. It’s that we don’t run. We’re not serious about a run game. Don’t attack the right spots, not called at the right time, unimaginative. Been that way long before GR so not gonna blame him.
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MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:46 PM
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So, if he says the OL is terrible, what makes you think that we would benefit from doing more of the thing they do the worst? They can't pass protect and they can't run block. In short, they are terrible.
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Adam Randall missed a lot of open lanes. Not saying they are doing good but O-line ain't the only problem.
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:44 PM
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And he dropped a perfectly thrown short pass that would have been for big yardage. It looks like the team as a whole has gotten worse as the season goes on...
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:10 PM
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9/10 of the run plays are straight up the middle, and if we throw incomplete on first down, you can bet the farm the next play is a 50 dive (or whatever we call it). A big problem with our OL is their blocking scheme. They block the wrong guys too often. Plus we seldom attack the edge. Why not run a 2 back set once in a while, or maybe an extra tight end, or God forbid put somebody in motion. There are so many ways to have an effective run game even if the line is not as good we would like. Our vanilla approach ain’t it.
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:47 PM
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We can only play 11 guys on each side of the ball with no extra!!! 
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Randall is big and tough, but I don't think he can effectively attack an edge.
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Oct 20, 2025, 7:18 PM
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I'd run some of the younger linemen out there and some of the younger running backs out there and see how we do. I expect it will actually be worse because OL takes a while to develop but at least they'll be getting good experience for next year. Maybe they will at least play hard.
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:24 PM
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They have done a good job of snapping the ball and not jumping offside.
Just looking for a positive here.
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Re: MacLain is an OL. He knows what he speaks of...
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:55 PM
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I think it was against Syracuse that I saw the entire O-line try to cut block and all they did was fall down in front of the defenders - no contact at all. I was absoluely flabbergasted. HS players block better than that.
I see that Eric saw the same thing by one OL during the SMU game.
That's on Luke - and Dabo. This didn't just start in the past 3 weeks. They should have seen the lackadaisical play pre-season and corrected it.... but instead, they were busy reading press clippings, eating rat poison and drinking orange KoolAid.
It's a disgusting thing for me to witness.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:22 PM
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I said it in another post and no one responded. I’ll say it again. Eric MacLain should be on our coaching staff. We’ve hired other former players and here’s one that isn’t afraid to point out who, where and what is going wrong on the offense. If there’s anyone on this board that can get Dabo’s ear please mention it to him.
Thank you. Go Tigers
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might be tough to lure him away
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:24 PM
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when he’s makin TV bucks…
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Re: might be tough to lure him away
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:57 PM
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Have you seen what we’re paying coaches? I’ll bet a deal could be made.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:17 PM
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It's much easier to critique from afar. If Eric were on the coaching staff, he would have to tow the line. I think CDS is too controlling and doesn't let his coordinators cut loose. Evidence? They were all successful elsewhere. Now they are not good.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:23 PM
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not the worst I'ver ever seen but pretty bad. These OL guys appear overmatched
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:53 PM
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Whole team minus a few just look soft.
Could not stop a team with a QB with only one wheel. What would the score have been if the guy could pull it and run?
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:58 PM
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They're not solved. They're just not talented.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:47 PM
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Even as bad as the offensive line was in the game. The defense cost us the game. The back end is slow and the line can't get ANY pressure. Woodaz looks lost out there.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:51 PM
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DLine cannot get off a block.
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Dang, DD....I like that line! Good one..........***
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:48 PM
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Understatement! Vizz played his tail off throwing for over 300 with zero help from the o-line or the run game.
And no this team should not be bowl eligible period. At least from what we have seen so far.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's
Oct 20, 2025, 5:20 PM
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I don't think they will make a bowl.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's
Oct 20, 2025, 5:31 PM
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Even if they do make a bowl, players will wholesale opt out and we’ll look like FSU did a couple of years ago.
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#ELLFIRE and DAMNATION!!!!!
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:49 PM
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The TRUTH is being spoken about this team by someone who knows what they’re talking about! Time to put this TRUTH on the COACHES locker room wall and blast it out over the practice field speakers the next two weeks…
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Re: #ELLFIRE and DAMNATION!!!!!
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Oct 20, 2025, 7:05 PM
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It doesn't need to be blasted through anything, it's loud and clear enough as it is!!!
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:52 PM
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What’s shocking is that our OL has been bad since 2021, but we have never brought in a transfer to come in and immediately start for us.
Dabo thought his guys could get it done. He was wrong. Very very wrong.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:55 PM
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We have missed on some recruits on both sides of the LOS. I believe most looked good on paper.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Yep - they're paper Tigers.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 4:58 PM
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I watch highlights of other college games and I see dynamic offensive plays being made and I don't understand. We have just as much talent, if not more, than some of these other schools but it doesn't look like it during the game. How much do you have to do to be creative in football? How much to just be stable? I can't attribute our teams play to the ills of NIL because every other team has the same burden of proof! SMU, Louisville, Frickin Vandy????? Are you telling me that all these schools are just paying their guys more and that's how they are getting enhanced performance from them? Diego Pavia wasn't a 4 Star.... Not talent, not NIL....gotta be something up with the coaching approach. We have the same personel that we had last year when we were scoring 40+ a game......
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:00 PM
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No we don't have just as much talent. That's where you're wrong. Your analysis is flawed from that point
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
Oct 20, 2025, 6:43 PM
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Correct. Riley’s offense can score against inferior talent. But as soon as they get to a decent defense, they fold. Not just this year or last year. All three years. Same at TCU. Georgia stuffed them.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:26 PM
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Last year the Tigers averaged 34.7 against everyone and a tad above 19 against our five toughest opponents. SMU was the only good team we did well against. We scored 15.5 per game in our four losses. Conclusion? The offense was not all that great.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Mac is correct. I have said for years that everything starts with the offensive line and Clemson has not had a good one since 2019. Just pitiful.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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much talk about average linemen returning with more snaps-much prefer real talent with no /fewer snaps
the Austin/Pudge promotions/appointments set us back immeasurably
really do not see things improving anytime soon!
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 5:53 PM
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“Screech more into the void”—-Sam Tate
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Ah, you beat me to it. I was going to post that this thread is not complete
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:28 PM
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without a yawn from SamTater. Also noticed zero responses from the CJC, they can't belittle Mac.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:25 PM
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I love EMac. He’s been my spirit animal this season with his analysis and film breakdowns.
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E-mac's face (in this photo) is Clemson fans right now...
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Oct 20, 2025, 6:27 PM
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😔😔😔
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Is he still doing breakdowns of our games or did he give up? Lol
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Heck man, I wouldn’t blame him if he gave up! Gotta laugh to keep from crying.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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I agree with most of Eric's commentary though I'm not sold on Vizzina as our future at all. Yeah, probably not a bad outing by him in his first start, but he ain't quick with his feet folks. There are times the QB HAS to be able to make plays with his feet, especially against the better defenses. From what I saw, Vizzina isn't running away from anyone and he isn't making anyone miss a tackle. So while we can win some with him at the helm, we're also going to lose some too solely because of his lack of escapability.
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Yes they are bad but an OC that has no interest in establishing the run game
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and has less than zero personality, toughness, and aggressiveness breeds this product
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Go watch Mac Lain's break down of the O-Line play
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Oct 21, 2025, 8:01 AM
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Yes Riley makes quite a few head scratching calls per game (like jumbo package on 4th and 1), but this o-line is horrible. You can't establish a run when you running back is being met deep in the backfield. Time after time, SMU ran the same twist and we never adjusted.
I'm not saying Riley should stay, but he's not the root of the problem.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
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He should be our interim OL coach or Offensive Coordinator. Wouldn't hurt.
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Fire Luke, Hire McCain
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Former Mississippi coach ia a good ol Southern boy but too laid back for O-line coach
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Re: Fire Luke, Hire McCain
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YET ANOTHER IDIOTIC COMMENT. TIGERNET NEVER FAILS TO PRODUCE.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
Oct 23, 2025, 3:26 PM
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It depressing...it have become exactly like a gory train wreck. You want to look away, but you just can't.
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
Oct 23, 2025, 5:30 PM
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Funny thing is there all those who say fire everyone but Dabo and Matt Luke. Is ML proven or did he just have a nasty, athletic 5 star O line of beasts at UGA? Not sure the answer maybe someone else knows. Or is there a Riley-CJ-Luke disconnect?
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Re: TNET: Mac Lain says Clemson's O-line was the worst he's "ever seen," unsure Tigers make bowl
Oct 24, 2025, 9:51 AM
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I am all about the disconnect. What I see is 5 different teams on the field.
1.Offensive skill postion team.
2.Offensive line
3.Defensive Line
4.Linebackers
5.Secondary
The play of the team screams of a coaching disconnect because the postion groups play that way. When you see things like a running back trip an offensive lineman resulting in a qb sack because he is paying no attention to the OL and is just playing for the offensive skill postion of running this way and making the cut.
They ought to take everyone on the back field in practice and make them be an OL being run over. Then take an OL and make him be the unprotected QB running for his slow miserable life. Give each other a taste of what the other positions need to be successful.
Take a QB and make him be a wideout with a ball thrown with far too much heat to catch it or thrown in a place where the WO is going to get clobbered because of poor placement....let them know how it feels.
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