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Update from Lineman friend in Asheville

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:39 PM
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This is the update I just got from my linemen friend in Asheville.


Went up old fort road where it connects to number 9. Whole area is gone. 100ft ravine where houses used to sit. Kids walking around naked asking where there parents are at.
People BEGGING for water. Black hawk helicopters from fema. I don't wanna talk about the smell of the dead bodies. I'm in disbelief

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We heard tons of rumors of bodies, but fortunately never saw any

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:44 PM
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To confirm or deny rumors.

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I had a text from a friend at lake lure

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:45 PM
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He did say that he saw bodies in the rubble that had been washed into the lake from chimney rock. So this wasn’t a rumor, it was direct from someone who saw them.

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Man, we have all been wondering if that would be the case, assuming it

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:54 PM
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had to be. Too many missing people, all too much going on.

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What I dont understand is why people didnt GTFO

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:58 PM
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On thurs. We knew the water was already at flood levels w 15-20 inches coming. Got to leave on thurs.

But I understand people are stubborn. My mom had a church conference in western NC that started Friday afternoon and she drove up there w a friend on Friday after the storm, I told her she absolutely should not go, and she said “I already spent $500 on this so I’m going”

They got to Hendo and couldn’t go any further, spent 6 hours in traffic just to drive back home. Thank god she didn’t get to the retreat bc she would have been stuck. Dumb dumb dumb mom.


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It's not stubbornness. It's the fact that western NC got relatively little

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:00 PM
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warning that it was going to be this bad, and absolutely no one foresaw a 1000 year flood event the likes of which no one had ever seen. Most people probably expected to have a soaked basement at worst.

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Some of it is people wanting to protect their property.

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:04 PM
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My father wouldn't leave his compound in upper Gville county. He said he had to make sure no one came to raid his home. No one would have raided him, but he sure thought so. They finally drove down here yesterday to get gas and bring me venison meat from the freezer.

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this is complete BS... there was plenty of warning


Oct 1, 2024, 4:01 PM [ in reply to It's not stubbornness. It's the fact that western NC got relatively little ]
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get your carp straight

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lulz...

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Oct 1, 2024, 4:06 PM [ in reply to It's not stubbornness. It's the fact that western NC got relatively little ]
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https://x.com/NWSGSP/status/1839348419032408339

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Ummm... that picture says the warning is from


Oct 1, 2024, 4:21 PM
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"Now through 2 am Saturday"

"Now" is not a very big heads up forcast.

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That also shows Asheville getting 4-6 inches. They received, what, over 20?***

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Oct 1, 2024, 4:57 PM
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here was the original from 9/25


Oct 1, 2024, 7:22 PM [ in reply to Ummm... that picture says the warning is from ]
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https://x.com/NWSGSP/status/1838903917066748117

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I feel like there's a lesson here,

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Oct 1, 2024, 4:56 PM [ in reply to lulz... ]
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in clarity of communication.

"We recommend evacuation" would have been far more effective than, "significant weather event," and, "compared to the floods of 1916." That is, unless they were really just trying to drive the point home with folks who are over 108 years old.

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Lulz, your own link makes my point.***


Oct 1, 2024, 6:03 PM [ in reply to lulz... ]
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Re: Lulz, your own link makes my point.***


Oct 1, 2024, 6:34 PM
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You have no clue what you’re talking about

What timeframe would you have liked princess?

Seriously. And I’ll explain it to you

The info of a potential disaster was provided 2 days in advance

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You're not invited into many homes, are you sport?***

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Oct 1, 2024, 8:19 PM
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Re: Lulz, your own link makes my point.***

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Oct 2, 2024, 12:20 PM [ in reply to Lulz, your own link makes my point.*** ]
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I'm just shocked that people weren't expecting a hurricane in the mountains

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NOAA and the governor of NC foresaw it.

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Oct 1, 2024, 4:58 PM [ in reply to It's not stubbornness. It's the fact that western NC got relatively little ]
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Wednesday, September 25

Governor Cooper Declares State of Emergency Ahead of Hurricane Helene

Activates National Guard and Deploys Swift-Water Teams in Advance of Storm

Helene is forecast to cause significant impacts including flash flooding, numerous landslides, damaging debris flows, slope failures across steep terrain, and riverine flooding across portions of western North Carolina and portions of central North Carolina. Flooding may occur in areas that do not typically flood. All North Carolinians should be weather aware and prepared. Tropical storm force winds are possible across western North Carolina late Thursday into Friday. With already saturated soils, trees could fall causing widespread power outages. There is a potential for tornadoes with this storm system. Tornadoes from tropical systems can quickly spin up with little warning."

https://governor.nc.gov/news/press-releases/2024/09/25/governor-cooper-declares-state-emergency-ahead-hurricane-helene

NOAA could not have been more blunt: "Communities need to prepare for catastrophic, life-threatening inland flooding from #Helene, even well after landfall

"The major flood risk includes the urban areas around Tallahassee, metro Atlanta and western North Carolina, including Asheville."

https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/communities-need-to-prepare-for-catastrophic-life-threatening-inland-flooding-from-helene-even-well


This isn't meant to victim-blame in any sense. Just pushing back against the idea that nobody saw this coming.

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So they saw it but didnt issue a mandatory evacuation?


Oct 1, 2024, 6:05 PM
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You don’t know what you’re talking about here.

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Re: So they saw it but didnt issue a mandatory evacuation?

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Oct 1, 2024, 6:39 PM
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Ignorance is a curse.

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Hey

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Oct 1, 2024, 6:40 PM
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GFY

love the Wyoming resident pontificating from a perch of North Carolina Meteorological expertise based on reading 4 tweets. lol. You’re a fuckingdumbass

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Re: Hey


Oct 1, 2024, 6:46 PM
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Just admit you have no idea what you’re talking about regarding the situation.

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Go read some more tweets to beef up that knowledge base


Oct 1, 2024, 6:49 PM
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And get back to me.

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or like myself, you can go to the nws website


Oct 1, 2024, 7:36 PM
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and see the facts for yourself

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Correct.


Oct 1, 2024, 6:41 PM [ in reply to So they saw it but didnt issue a mandatory evacuation? ]
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It's not a matter of opinion if they saw it coming or not. They did. I posted proof.

Why they didn't order an evacuation is another issue.

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Since youre a lifelong New Jersey resident, let me help with context.


Oct 1, 2024, 6:48 PM
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They didn’t issue a mandatory evacuation because they had the rainfall prediction totally wrong. 4-6 inches total would have sucked, and Biltmore Village would have gotten flooded like it always does, but the area simply would not have been ravaged the way it was. They knew that and the residents knew that, and them not evacuating is no different then a coastal resident not evacuating for a cat one hurricane or tropical storm—-it’s a reasonable calculated risk. People thought they knew what was coming based on inaccurate predictions, period, and by the time it was clear that those predictions were wrong, it was just as dangerous to leave as to stay.

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I knew on Wed AM that I was getting 10-15 inches rain in Seneca

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:05 PM
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the NC mountain residents should have also.

I don't live where there's really a chance of flooding. If my house ever floods (80' above Lake Keowee level), half Oconee County is dead before me. Still I prepped my property as best I could trying to re-route as much downpour away from my buildings as I could.

If I lived in a valley near a river that has any flood potential I would have scrammed with 15" of rain predicted.

Here's my Wed 10 AM post. 36 hours before Helene got here.
https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/they-should-rename-this-storm-to-hurricane-john-holmes-35536913#35536913

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Lucky for you that you didnt check the forecast at lunchtime.


Oct 1, 2024, 7:16 PM
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wrong again...

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:32 PM
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this map was indicating what was in addition to what had already fallen.

Asheville had already gotten 7-8 inches of rain at this point

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=gsp

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The bottom line is that even "10-15 inches of rain" doesn't convey impact.

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Oct 1, 2024, 8:27 PM [ in reply to I knew on Wed AM that I was getting 10-15 inches rain in Seneca ]
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People know that's a lot of rain, but they don't know what that much rain on an area can and will do to rivers/lakes. People are animals of experience, and their experience, and the experience of their forefathers, is that they are high in the mountains, and the idea of a hurricane causing significant flooding issues is an absurd thought. Yes, now, after this, people are going to GTFO, but that's because they now have an experience of what that rain does. We're also talking about people who don't exactly have the means to GTFO on a whim, either. If we're posting on TNET, I bet most to all of us can afford to miss work, get a hotel room for a few days, or have family/kin we can crash. That's not the case for rural Appalachia. So not only is the concept of flooding danger relatively obscure, it certainly does not meet the threshold of financially painful decision-making.

That is why I am not faulting anyone for not evacuating. This isn't Floridiots who refused to leave their newly furnished beachhouse because libs were in cahoots with the Weather Channel to bump up ratings.

Nobody. NOBODY on here foresaw what was going to happen. So let's not play Heidi Hindsight and brush our shoulders off like we are some g/d Nostradamus of precipitation.

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I'm not a lifelong NJ resident.

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Oct 1, 2024, 10:14 PM [ in reply to Since youre a lifelong New Jersey resident, let me help with context. ]
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You don't live in North Carolina. Neither of which has any bearing on this discussion.

I would bet evacuation was not an option for logistical reasons. Since we're not privy to those conversations all we can do is speculate.

Can you explain what part of "catastrophic, life-threatening inland flooding" was not a sufficient warning of the catastrophic, life-threatening inland flooding people are talking about in this thread?

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Re: I'm not a lifelong NJ resident.


Oct 1, 2024, 10:58 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/this-thread-pretty-much-confirms-my-desire-to-back-off-this-place.-35574614

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the forecast wasn't for western NC to get 15-20 inches

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:05 PM [ in reply to What I dont understand is why people didnt GTFO ]
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5-7 inches w/ 60 mph gusts.

All of this was supposed to be / forecasted to be ~250-350 miles west.

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I watched the news thurs evening and if I lived up there

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:09 PM
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I would have told my family to pack and we just drive east. Maybe the forecast wasn’t as bad as it got, but it was known that rivers were already at flooding stages w more to come. The extent of the hurricane gusts was somewhat unexpected in western NC but even on Hartwell it was projected 80mph gusts.

People had enough time to evacuate but some didn’t.

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The eye was supposed to go west of Atlanta when I went to bed...

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:14 PM
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Woke up and it had gone well east of Atlanta.

We were out on Pawley's Island and basically had no serious warnings other than some rain. About 3am woke up to a Cat 1 hurricane, tornadoes and water spouts.

Weather service didn't do the best job on this one.

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A cat1 storm in Pawleys?***

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:20 PM
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Local news was saying Trop Storm/Cat 1.

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:29 PM
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I guess who you want to listen to. Wind was howling rocking the house from about 3am to 7am. Made me think that anyone who rides out Hurricanes is ####### crazy.

Lots of houses along the beach had roof damage.

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This is why Tallahassee still exists.


Oct 1, 2024, 4:17 PM [ in reply to The eye was supposed to go west of Atlanta when I went to bed... ]
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I pray every night now it didn't take the path most were predicting, and then I pray for the one's it did hit. NC would have had flooding no matter what.

It would have been 1000 times worse than Sherman here.

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did you evacuate from upstate SC?

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:15 PM [ in reply to I watched the news thurs evening and if I lived up there ]
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I don't see how that's different....I've talked to over two dozen colleagues / customers from NC and not a single one of them was under the impression anywhere near this bad was going to happen.

I'm pretty against revisionist history when you're staring century level storms and cataclysmic weather events that left people with little to no time to react right down the barrel.

A hurricane hitting Big Bend FL region != noah's ark level flooding + #### failure + floating houses + interstates washing away in North Carolina, 600 miles away.

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I'm in this camp.

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:19 PM
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I am not faulting anybody for not evacuating up there since I can pretty much assure I wouldn't have.

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Re: I'm in this camp.


Oct 2, 2024, 12:38 PM
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No one saw this much devastation coming.

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They said it was going to be real bad, but I didn't hear it until Thursday

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:20 PM [ in reply to did you evacuate from upstate SC? ]
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They said "catastrophic flooding" worse than 1916.

Most of us in upstate are not in danger of flooding unless you lived very close to Saluda or Reedy rivers.

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To dawgs point he means it could have shifted our way.

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:51 PM
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And we weren’t going to evacuate on Thursday based on the forecast. So I understand that and don’t fault people for not leaving. But it was clear on Thursday that western NC would be absolutely ######.

Again, My mom still drove up there like an idiot. So anything is possible and I do fault her for being stupid and not listening.

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Youd drive your family out Thursday evening in

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Oct 1, 2024, 6:10 PM [ in reply to I watched the news thurs evening and if I lived up there ]
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A monsoon with roads that were already flooding? No you wouldn’t.

The smart move based on historical knowledge and rainfall predictions WAS to stay put by Thursday afternoon.

https://climate.ncsu.edu/blog/2024/09/rapid-reaction-historic-flooding-follows-helene-in-western-nc/

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If I would have told my daughter to leave Boone.

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:00 PM
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She wouldn't have listened and not safe that day anyway. I asked the day of if her car was on high ground. parking deck.

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Bingo.

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:04 PM
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With 4-6 inches predicted it would have been like evacuating the coast for predicted 50 mph winds.

But our New Jersey and Wyoming experts want to tell us how ignorant and foolish these people were. Unreal.

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From what I heard the night of, many across the SE killed in car wrecks...

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:18 PM
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as well as some EMT's responding. Also, where in the eff are most of the people in western nc supposed to go?


Would be like telling lower income Atlantans to get out of of town and find some place. Not going to happen.

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Our friends got warning but saw people getting stuck driving out of hood so

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:15 PM [ in reply to the forecast wasn't for western NC to get 15-20 inches ]
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they opted to stay at the house with two kids. Better than getting stranded in a car, right?

They got rescued off the roof and lost everything.

1000-year storm was not predicted, but the flooding certainly was.

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Oct 2, 2024, 12:43 PM
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I'll go ahead and say it. Anyone who says they knew this level of devastation was coming to the NC mountains from this hurricane is completely FOS

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this was the original forecast...

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Oct 1, 2024, 4:18 PM [ in reply to the forecast wasn't for western NC to get 15-20 inches ]
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https://x.com/plancks_princi/status/1839375715009249320

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I am confused...

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:19 PM
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Are you trying to further Obed's and dawghater's point that the forcast was 4-6 or 5-7 for Asheville... and ended up around 20"?

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based on the timestamp on the map


Oct 1, 2024, 7:40 PM
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they are indicating precip in addition to what had already fallen.

Here are the totals for Asheville by day

9/25 - 4.09
9/26 - 5.78
9/27 - 4.11

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that first map was made after the first non-Helene rain passed through


Oct 1, 2024, 7:51 PM [ in reply to I am confused... ]
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it dropped 6-7". This was when Helene was still in the Gulf.

Then Helene hit and dumped 7-10" more rain, plus the wind. That's your Totals Map.

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Holy Eff!


Oct 1, 2024, 8:07 PM
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I am still further confused. Both maps show it was posted on Thursday around the same time.

On says now through Sat...

The other one says Thursday through Saturday.

When did Helene go through Asheville? Wasnt it late Friday?

If the second is the total from Thursday through Saturday, why even show the first one. That is very poorly done as I think I am understanding what yall are saying as i write this.

If my understanding is now correct, the meteorologist presenting that information should be fired for not being able to make things clear.

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Its showing exactly what it says its showing. Total rainfall for the


Oct 1, 2024, 8:21 PM
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Storm. It’s the same storm. Their predictions are all over the place (further evidenced in these pics) and they were not saying “ok, storm totals start NOW”. That’s never how it has worked.





Furthermore, they had flood warnings in place that were identical to ones put in place for areas that never flooded. Look at the time stamp on the first true flood evacuation recommendation they issued.


https://x.com/nwsnwc/status/1839530577436844179?s=46

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2 separate rain events


Oct 1, 2024, 8:27 PM
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that were back to back. you don't know what you are talking about

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/01/three-reasons-why-western-north-carolina-flood-was-so-extreme/

One-two punch of heavy rain
The historic deluge began in western North Carolina on Wednesday afternoon into evening, more than 30 hours before the core of Helene came through, because of what’s known as a “predecessor rain event.” That is when moisture streaming hundreds of miles out ahead of the storm interacts with a dip in the jet stream to generate an initial round of heavy rain.

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Re: Holy Eff!

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Oct 1, 2024, 8:27 PM [ in reply to Holy Eff! ]
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WRAL meteorologist Elizabeth Gardner explains why Helene was such a catastrophic storm for western North Carolina.

Gardner, a WRAL meteorologist since 1998, said, in the many years she has tracked hurricanes, she has never seen anything like this in the mountains of North Carolina, even though the area has been hit with tropical systems dozens of times.

Rain totals from Helene were catastrophic:

Busick, near Mount Mitchell in Yancey County, got 30.78 inches of rain
Hendersonville, just south of Asheville, got almost 22 inches of rain
Boone got almost 18 inches of rain
Blowing Rock got 15.45 inches of rain
Asheville got 14.31 inches of rain

The devastating flooding across western North Carolina is not solely from Helene, Gardner explained. The storm had a predecessor, or a pre-storm.


How Helene became the near-perfect storm to bring widespread destruction across the South
"We had a low to the north [and] we had a cold front coming off that low, and that cold front stalled right there in the mountains," Garner said. "That happened on Wednesday, we watched it happen."

Asheville had already experienced periods of rain on Wednesday, Wednesday night and Thursday before Helene even passed North Carolina.

"I remember looking at how much rain they'd already gotten in Asheville Thursday morning at 9 a.m." Gardner described. "They already had 7 inches of rain.
So we just had all this tropical moisture that was coming up and interacting with that stalled front ... it was thousands of miles ahead of Helene."


https://www.wral.com/story/ask-the-meteorologist-why-was-helene-so-devastating-for-nc-mountains/21650585/

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Hes trying to twist all data into saying


Oct 1, 2024, 8:01 PM [ in reply to I am confused... ]
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These hilljacks got what was coming to them. F him.

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you sure about that Clark?


Oct 1, 2024, 8:13 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/definitely-going-to-be-donating-some-funds-35552617#35552617

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Most definitely.***


Oct 1, 2024, 8:13 PM
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well... just like everything else in this thread


Oct 1, 2024, 8:20 PM
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you have posted... you're wrong again.

You could own it, and admit you are wrong, but your ego couldn't handle it.

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Heres what I can do.


Oct 1, 2024, 8:25 PM
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Just put you on the ignore list to avoid a victim blaming government sycophant who argues long past the point of knowing he’s wrong. Cheers sunshine, nice knowing you.

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lol and there we go...


Oct 1, 2024, 8:31 PM
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the ego couldn't take it.

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Incorrect. There were several models calling for more than a foot of rain for

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Oct 1, 2024, 7:58 PM [ in reply to the forecast wasn't for western NC to get 15-20 inches ]
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western NC. Almost no models called for less than a foot of rain. Some called for 20 inches. A local meteorologist on Twitter was sending prayers for NC on Wednesday. And I knew the areas near me would get hammered with 80+ mph winds. It did about as expected as far as I can tell. The rain was what I expected for western NC, but the damage was worse because it's mountains. It's comparable to the 2015 floods, only with massive hills and mountains making the same water FAST. VERY dangerous, and predicted by many (most).

The rain, winds, etc. were exactly as expected in western SC. The damage and outages were higher because no one accounted for wet soil, and weakened trees. But all in all it's about what I expected on Wednesday, which was the worst case scenario, mostly. The damage has been more than I expected, but the rain totals, winds, etc. were what I was expecting. On Wednesday I pulled out the generator, changed the oil, and got it working knowing there was a good chance of a power outage.

You can't blame the weather models, as they got this one pretty correct. You CAN blame the weather service, and local TV stations for picking the least damaging forecasts to relay to the public.

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Yes.


Oct 1, 2024, 7:59 PM
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You’re incorrect.

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NWS in Columbia called for 45mph gusts 24 hours before.


Oct 1, 2024, 8:18 PM
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Literally ONE weather model called for that level of winds, 6+ others called for 70+mph winds. Yet that's what NWS went with.

Say whatever you want. I expected to lose power. And I expected massive flooding in NC. And that's what happened. And it was not unexpected. It was unreported though.

The storm took the track the majority of weather models showed. It had the intensity most weather models showed. The winds were on par with the majority of models, and the rain in western NC was shown by a majority of weather models.

Now the news, and the NWS picked the least problematic models to issue their forecasts. That's just the plain facts.

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Youre being pedantic bruh.


Oct 1, 2024, 8:31 PM
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Either you’re suggesting that, to have been properly informed for this event, everyone in the mountains should aspire to the same level of rain man-like geekery that you dive into on things of this nature, or that they should completely ignore the most mainstream, widespread and credentialed forecast that was made available to them. Both are so unlikely as to be impossible scenarios.

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She would have met my mom there.***

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:17 PM [ in reply to What I dont understand is why people didnt GTFO ]
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drunk at the putt putt.


World's colliding!

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:22 PM
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Friend in commercial construction sent this out

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:49 PM
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One of my GC’s live in Blowing Rock, NC and he says that the PD is constantly pulling bodies out of the over flowing rivers.

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MauldinT, where are you???


Just numbing, no words.***

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:51 PM
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Saw this story recently. Turns out it's the uncle of a guy

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Oct 1, 2024, 2:57 PM
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I go to church with. I can't imaging how horrible the feeling was for the uncle and for the people on shore who had no means of helping. In addition to this uncle dying in the flood, his parents, siblings, and grandparents lost every house they owned. And it still feels like the country generally has no clue how bad it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/hurricane-helene-marshall-north-carolina-floods.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc">https://web.archive.org/web/20241001132646/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/hurricane-helene-marshall-north-carolina-floods.html

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Sorry, link didn't work well. It's behind a paywall so copy the url

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:04 PM
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and then go here, paste the URL, and go to Internet Archive to read for free.

https://paywallreader.com

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That is a mumbo jumbo of a link

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:18 PM
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how about a C & P?

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That's no way to talk about our large friend.***


Oct 1, 2024, 4:32 PM
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drunk at the putt putt.


Thats the point. When I try to paste the link


Oct 1, 2024, 6:01 PM [ in reply to That is a mumbo jumbo of a link ]
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After it’s been run through the archive, you get that big useless link. So I said you should copy this link and paste it into the paywall site I then linked.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/hurricane-helene-marshall-north-carolina-floods.html

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holy ####.***

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:21 PM
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your friend is famous

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:40 PM
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https://x.com/DougMackeyCase/status/1840779225365692798

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I guess he is! I grew up in western NC and lived in Aville for years.

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Oct 1, 2024, 3:54 PM
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I can confirm this is real. I have a text thread w a lot of people bc we were trying to find out who is safe and who isn’t.

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Lmao. Busted.


Oct 1, 2024, 6:12 PM [ in reply to your friend is famous ]
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JFB’s lineman friend is a twitter account.

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I'm confused, and possibly naive.


Oct 1, 2024, 9:32 PM [ in reply to your friend is famous ]
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Was JerryGarciaBand® on this text thread that got picked up by Twitter, or did he see this text on Twitter and claim the info as his own?

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I couldn't imagine copy pasta a viral tweet

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Oct 1, 2024, 10:17 PM
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And claiming it. So clearly he famous being from the area

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This thread pretty much confirms my desire to back off this place.


Oct 1, 2024, 8:37 PM
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A thread started by a guy pretending that a Tik tok was inside gossip from an expert friend devolving into a pissssing match with people hellbent on showing how much savvier they are than victims of a massive catastrophe, many whose bodies aren’t even cold yet. GD this place sucks these days.

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Hey man, just wanted to say you bring a whole lot to the table here.

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Oct 1, 2024, 9:33 PM
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Glad you are here. Don't let posters with a vendetta get you down.

signed,

someone who also feels he should spend less time online.

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Re: This thread pretty much confirms my desire to back off this place.

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Oct 1, 2024, 11:22 PM [ in reply to This thread pretty much confirms my desire to back off this place. ]
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Honestly, you're emotionally compromised. If this tragedy happened somewhere else you'd be cold blooded. I was here during Sandy and people were cunts about it. In some cases they still are.

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Im sure I am more sensitive


Oct 2, 2024, 5:27 AM
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To those being c*nts about Helene then I was about Sandy. Here’s the diff between us: I wasn’t one of the ones being a c*nt then, and you are now.

As a reminder, you’re on a Clemson message board—a certain amount of Carolinas-based regionalism is a given. I wouldn’t have gone to a Rutgers board after Sandy with my smug “look how much smarter I am than these victims” shtick and acted shocked when some took offense.

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per Obed...


Oct 1, 2024, 8:58 PM
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this was your statement "It's the fact that western NC got relatively little warning that it was going to be this bad", which was wrong.

Then I proved that you were wrong multiple times. Your ego couldn't handle admitting you were wrong, and you had a tantrum. And now you are feeling sorry for yourself.

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Like, what is missing so much from your life that you need a win so badly you

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Oct 1, 2024, 9:02 PM
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not only posted this in a reply, but made it a thread to everybody would have to read it?

I'm sure there's an animal shelter or a bath house near you.

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drunk at the putt putt.


Opens thread this morning

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Yeah, this one devolved BADLY late in the afternoon. I'm catching up and

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Oct 2, 2024, 8:51 AM
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really confused at all the anger.

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Re: Yeah, this one devolved BADLY late in the afternoon. I'm catching up and

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Oct 2, 2024, 9:43 AM
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Yeah, well you’re a ####### god ###### idiot if you think that

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duh***


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You want some too Dr Burberry?***


Oct 2, 2024, 2:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Yeah, this one devolved BADLY late in the afternoon. I'm catching up and ]
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Re: Update from Lineman friend in Asheville

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Oct 2, 2024, 11:30 AM
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This thread...



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