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Ultimately, Dabo’s loyalty has to be for graduating his players, preparing them for life after football, and not ONLY for winning. Past that, all bets are off. Loyalty does not extend to starting any player or retaining any coach on the staff. He, in my estimation, needs to be brutal and relentless in expecting nothing short of perfection, or near perfection from his staff and athletes. Student athletes can get a college degree and NIL benefits. Coaches can get hefty paychecks.
From my point of view three things seem apparent. 1st- Cade Klubnick needs to be benched. Who Dabo starts next game - I’ll leave to him. 2nd - the OC needs to be fired. Who Dabo puts in his place I’ll leave to him. 3rd - the WR coach needs to go. Who Dabo puts in his place I’ll leave to him.
Kirby Smart will ever only be a failure as a head coach under my microscope. He is dead last in graduating his players. That could change - but it won’t.
Dabo Swinney, however, has a good chance of being a continued success. He is number one in graduating his players. That could change. - but it won’t. He might slip a position or two - but he will continue to graduate a very high percentage of his players. He has proved he and a good staff can win championships.
As for the portal - that’s an X factor that I don’t have an opinion on. Way too complex a topic for me to understand. It gets tangled up in the loyalty to player factor.
So, rip me to shreds for this - I don’t care. I never read any replies

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Sep 1, 2024, 7:59 AM

These are adults. They are professional athletes now and are not real student-athletes in any sense of the word. His job is not to be a father to them to help them prepare "for life after football." You can get a good guidance counselor or life coach for a #### of a lot cheaper than $11 million a year.

He has one responsibility. Win football games. If he can win games and also foster a Christian culture based on loyalty, that's fine by me. But if he can't, he has to either drop his principles and get shown the door. I appreciate the success he had 7 years ago. His system was great back then. But thanks to the portal and NIL (and Kavanaugh's terrible decision), CFB is now NFL-lite. If he can't adjust, we can't pay him in perpetuity for his old success.

1. I'm not ready to say Cade is a lost cause. He does seem like he doesn't have the right mindset (he plays scared and doesn't realize where the first down line is). I would be prepared to try out QBs to figure out who's best, but I think the lack of success falls more on coaching than him.

2. It is absolutely not Riley, and anyone who thinks that is an idiot. Our offense is the same exact thing as it was under our last two fired OCs. The constant is Dabo, who thinks he's an offensive mastermind. Riley ran the air raid at his last three schools. He didn't magically forget and go for bubble screens and draws. I saw it described best as us hiring Riley, giving him the groceries he's allowed to use, making him follow our recipes, but demanding he make it a Michelin-level meal.

Dabo should be forced to let his coaches coach. If he doesn't like it, he can leave.

3. I really don't know about Grisham. I used to think he was terrible when we led the country in drops. But we don't have as many as we used to and I see a lot of WRs who good QBs could get it to. I do think there are problems with certain receivers, like Randall and Turner, neither of whom would be on the two deep at most decent schools. But I see a lot of flashes in others.

Anyone who labels Dabo a success because of graduation rate and Kirby Smart a failure because of the same is a pathetic moron. First, Smart's graduation rate suffers because he loses a ton of players to the portal (because he brings in so much talent) and the NFL. We've had less players leaving in three years so ours is higher. Second, this could just be the result of our creating fake majors at Clemson like PRTM where our players have it easy. Third, as I said above, his job isn't to graduate players. It's like you liking your doctor because he straightens up your hospital room while he's in there. That's nice and all, but it's not what you need the doctor for.

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you don't know what his responsibilities are. That is between his boss and him***

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Because football player graduation rates are not important to everyone

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Say what you want, Clemson's finances compared to the Ohio States of the world

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