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Nov 13, 2020, 8:32 AM

Clemson has changed leaps and bounds during this year alone. From supporting Marxism to removing a male sport and now giving special privileges to the q.ueer lifestyle. What a move for this progressive university. I don't even recognize it anymore. The spirit of antichrist is moving here.

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Nov 13, 2020, 8:38 AM

The eschatological bored is that way.


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this post is underrated


Nov 15, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 8:41 AM

I agree that Clemson is absolutely leaning more and more left. Not Marxist, but Clemson is on a precipice. When President Clements was hired, I implored him to keep Clemson a conservative university... to honor our military history and values. I see my words were in vain.

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Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

Hard to find any institutions of higher learning that don't lean left these days. Conservative universities are a thing of the past.

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Nov 13, 2020, 2:19 PM

many universities are closer to be libertarian than anything (financially conservative, socially progressive). Leave them alone and they are happy - thats all they ask in most cases. It used to be universities were conservative leaning when conservatives valued honesty, truth and virtue (no longer true IMO). Now "modern" conservatives like to use them as targets to rile up the conservative base outrage and then are shocked with universities rebuke their values.

What boggles my mind is that often conservatives cut them selves out of it and then complained when left-leaning voices got louder - universities are remarkably centrist in nature -at least public universities: the combined resource cutting warrior, the anti-science wing, anti-conservation, and the "thou shall not" crowd really hurt conservatives in higher ed. The kook conservatives call out the centrist position while liberals try to make them allies. No wonder which way universities then lean left now. One wing can't act like a butt and then expect the rest of the university to agree. Worse, when groups self-segregate, it just makes things less inclusive. Some of the more progressive elements are now pulling the "beadick" card and losing support but the extreme neocons already did a lot of damage and left.

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Nov 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

If you think public universities are centrist you haven't been paying attention.

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Nov 14, 2020, 2:07 AM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

You are full of spit! You have no idea what you are talking about. Clearly you don’t know what being libertarian means. I’m a hard-core libertarian. I’m socially liberal on most things but not everything. But being socially liberal is not the same thing as being socially progressive. Especially not in today’s culture war. Libertarians are not into all of this BLM antifa woke-ism nonsense. Libertarians think the idea of a safe space is nonsense as well. College campuses are extremely hostile to any type of conservative thought. College campuses are extremely anti-free speech. Libertarians do not cotton to any of that nonsense! Libertarians are extremely pro first and second amendment. Libertarians are first amendment absolutist! And universities are not even remotely fiscally conservative. They spend money like it’s water!

As far as that gay community on campus living together in that article the other day on here I looked into that and I actually don’t have a problem with it. Here’s why, they already have more than a dozen groups on campus that are living together as a community. Normally I would be against that type of thing because it’s people asking for special treatment. And normally most of these far left organizations and groups are in fact asking for special treatment when they say they’re asking for equality. These people are already equal under the law. They are in fact asking for special treatment. But in this situation at Clemson what this organization is asking for this gay group is actually something that already exists and any group can ask for this type of group status to live together as a group on campus.

When I saw the headline of the article I thought no freaking way at Clemson! I was very much against it based on the headline. But once I read the article and realized what was going on I’m actually OK with it because it’s not special treatment it’s equal treatment. For example, people that are in the ROTC live together in a group on campus. People involved in certain majors live together study together and do this. It seems like there are at least a dozen or more groups like this already on campus.

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dude


Nov 15, 2020, 8:34 PM

you may be a lot of things, but Libertarian isnt one of them.

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Nov 16, 2020, 3:58 PM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

How can you be a hardcore Lib? Kinda strange way but ok, I am a philosophical-rationalist libertarian. I can separate the difference between governing and government overreach. While I am not an BLM organizer, I do support many of their arguments that target government overreach and that a black life is, at a constitutional level valued (ie matters) and the policy/enforcement inequity is statistically significant. Ie the government is (by force) overstepping its bounds.... and yes, I did work in a LEO prior so I know that side too. So that is while I can accept some of the complaints made by those of the BLM without wholesale adoption. It is called being rational. I would be very weary of any Lib that claims liberty and then willingly looks away at one of the prime examples of government failing to protect both life and liberty. Libertarians take a measured rational approach with a focus on the constitutional interpretation that maximizes individual freedom. 1 or 2 amendments do no take precedence over other amendments so do some due-diligence on the 9th amendment as well as the police power outline in the 10th amendment. SO call me a lib that is a strong supporter of the 10th/police power too.

That being said, universities are not hostile to conservative through. Quite contrary. They are actually quite hostile to hate-speech being spewed by false-conservatives radicals. This gets back to my issue... you can't promote vulgar hate-speech, label it as "conservative" and then NOT expect a rebuke. Public universities still all have free-speech on campus. I have seen a wide range of speech in my 20+ years in academia. Universities might be one of the last bastions of free speech....but....

If you are an free-speech absolutist, then I assume that you would also agree that free speech can have consequences, no? Free speech is just that the government can not imprison the speaker for the content... but the speaker could be in some some other non-compliance with their actions/delivery: example walking down the interstate with a megaphone - if the 5-0 arrest you, it is not because you were talking about the merits of South Carolina football. Same goes for bomb threats or yelling "fire" in a theatre. Getting back to a University, it is at its core, a contract. You agree to do X, Y, Z, they agree to confer a degree. Simple as that. If you break rule X, they have a reason to rebuke the degree. So if acting like a basic, decent human being is rule X (ie honor code, code of conduct) is one of the requirements that you agree to in order to enroll, then you have to follow that. The university is more than within its power to refuse graduation for conduct. That isn't new in 200+ years. But it is not going to jail the speaker for content of a speech.

As far as the budget.... you haven't being following Clemson's financials have you? Most universities are in a real bind as far as the restrictions from various legislatures etc.

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Twisted word meaning & obvious spin...


Nov 16, 2020, 11:07 PM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

such a warped perspective>reveals- you as a closest leftist-your intent to sow & scatter misinformation

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That is because Conservatism is not in charge anymore, ask


Nov 16, 2020, 11:16 PM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

George Will and Stephen Schmidt

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Nov 14, 2020, 9:48 AM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

Need to fire Clements

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Radical right trumpism is not "conservative"!***


Nov 16, 2020, 11:14 PM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]



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Re: Radical right trumpism is not "conservative"!***


Nov 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

I agree that Trump is certainly not a conservative, but relatively speaking, he is much more right than the extreme liberal left.

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Lots of changes in America, just the beginning so some are gonna need to find an island to live.


Nov 13, 2020, 8:42 AM

glad I got to see Dwight “I Like IKE” motor by me within 6 feet in 1952 Ford convertible with top down and no secret service agents standing on car bumpers..

on his way to Freedom Park in Charlotte to give a speech..with citizens cheering, happy, not derisive, or protesting or looting or whatever.

But, maybe we should have!

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Dwight warned us rightly about the Industrial (Corporation)


Nov 16, 2020, 11:20 PM

complex, which is now in charge of our government. Corporate welfare and the Pentagon, take most of our tax money.

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Some things haven't ***


Nov 13, 2020, 8:49 AM

You're just a click away. Beat FSU!

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yeah well, find another team to follow***


Nov 13, 2020, 9:11 AM



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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Re: yeah well, find another team to follow***


Nov 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

Enjoy your Harris Biden years. Find another Country.

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yeah I will


Nov 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

even though I didn't vote for either of those losers




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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 9:22 AM

Take a little time and read "Communist China's War Inside America" by Brian Kennedy and also "Unrestricted Warfare" written by two Chinese colonels. A news article yesterday referred to Chinese drug cartels operating in Mexico to pump drugs into the US. Yes, times are changing for a reason but most Americans are blind to the reason. Your way of life and freedom are on the brink of the abyss. Clemson is just drinking the tainted koolaide.

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Nov 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

It is crystal clear to anyone willing to open their eyes. We are under attack and half the country is clueless to that fact.

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Nov 13, 2020, 10:22 AM

Yep, we are being destroyed from the inside and beginning in January, the downward progression in morals will multiply. We have destroyed ourselves. Sad but no great empire has lasted.

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What ever happened to "I had rather be dead than red"?


Nov 16, 2020, 11:25 PM [ in reply to Re: times have changed ]

Putintrumpism has put our Democracy in danger. Go to Russia, maybe with your hero, if you are a trumpster. There is your "communism" you are so afraid of...

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No runs, no passes, no touchdowns, no football post***


Nov 13, 2020, 11:18 AM



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Re: No runs, no passes, no touchdowns, no football post***


Nov 14, 2020, 1:04 AM

Is this a football thread? I think not.

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Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 11:47 AM

Time moves on but doesn't change..people change, some for the worse
and others for the better.

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Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 12:14 PM

Yet your fan base has been documented having relations in dumpsters and while in the stadium sipping do do ice.

Natural selection.

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Nov 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

Some people are just tired of the same old rules and ways that keep people in a mental box that they wish to explore more. When all that more is challenged...people get defiant.

Some people like the way things are and want nothing to change...want to know nothing about anything else except what they choose and hope to protect. Kind of like a race horse with those blinders on.....but they're winning races and making money.....and thats all that matters.

Some people take things way too far. They just go through the everyday with reckless morals just to obtain the credit of making some kind of statement to go back and brag about what they did or said. Those are the extreme minded folks that come in many shapes.. sizes.. and attitudes.


Now in all these changes.....what would GOD REALLY want?

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Nov 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

What would God want? It ain’t what the democrats are selling , that’s for sure. In fact it boggles my mind how a Christian can vote for a democrat. Do I think republicans are angels? Of course not but the policies of democrats have drifted way beyond biblical truth.

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Nov 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

And which policies are those ... and which truths? That can be a muddied item even within just a protestant tradition.

Neither Dems nor Republicans toe a biblical line. The will use it for their own purposes (ie photoshoots, speeches, etc) but none really care as along as they "win". The dems are more likely to express any biblical virtue or ethic through social policies/programs. They are more affirming and think that those works are not to be tied to an spiritual obligation (ie given freely). Meanwhile conservatives are more likely to express values through edicts and regulation with specific spiritual obligations, but less focused actions or programs. Two different policy directions from different truths.

However, faith may steer ones compass, the role of the government (IMO) is to allow the compass to spin freely and not interfere with ones faith... because of a plurality of paths resulting from an infinite god and finite being(s). The role of government is not to ask "what would god want" but rather "what do people want" in order to pursue higher goals... as those goals vary.

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Nov 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

You have a stunning disconnect when it comes to truth. Are you seriously claiming the values of democrats more closely align with the Bible?

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Nov 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

FutureDoc I read your post again and I get what you’re saying. However, I would claim there is only one clear truth. We can’t have our own truth. Jesus said “I am the way , the truth , and the life. No one comes to the father except by me”. That is the one clear truth. That is not for me to decide.

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Nov 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

By plurality of paths, I see the same goal, just different "organizations". I like to use my discussions with my DDiv baptist friend (I am Methodist - strong bit of Jeffersonian critique): The mainline Presbyterian Church & the Reform Covenant Presbyterian Church. I normally differ to my DDiv friend on this but I find the organizational aspects fascinating. From my basic understanding is that the difference between main-branch Pres and the RCBP are often mostly organizational such as the role of women in the church as well as some minor scriptural interpretations - and I just don't get the Synod internals ettc, but I am aware. That is politics/policy that I am not that well versed. My take is while the truth(s) can vary slightly, the goal is the same. So when I say paths, I mean this:



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Nov 13, 2020, 6:44 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

“The dems are more likely to express any biblical virtue or ethic through social policies/programs.”

Hard to fathom what you think those “biblical virtue(s)” through social policies/programs could be. They certainly don’t relate to:

(1) The murder of tens of millions of babies
(2) The affirmation of same sex marriage
(3) The proliferation of critical race theory and supporting organizations who affirm it

Regardless of party, however, corruption, collusion, and power are rampant in Washington, DC, state houses, and local governments. Appealing to faith communities is only a marketing ploy. But as long as one party continues to protect the 1st Amendment and doesn’t support outright sin like what is listed above, I will continue to cast my vote in their favor.

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Nov 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

Do you support public funding (socialism I’m sure in your mind) to care for those children? It sounds like you’re fine with having your taxes raised to cover them one way or another. If not, what’s your solution to the countless unwanted and abandoned children?

In what way does gay marriage personally affect you? Assuming this is a sin in your eyes, is that any different than let’s say a president who lies on the daily? Tell me that sins are on different levels and that you get to judge it.

Do you have a problem with the general concept that people who aren’t white want to be treated with respect and dignity to the same general level as white people? Do you understand that a person can support that concept of equality without supporting some overarching group? Tell me you think white people should feel safer walking down a street when a cop rolls by than a black person - all else being equal.

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Nov 15, 2020, 8:44 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

Any reply? I’m curious.

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Nov 16, 2020, 8:51 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

“The dems are more likely to express any biblical virtue or ethic through social policies/programs.”
Hard to fathom what you think those “biblical virtue(s)” through social policies/programs could be.


Mainly steal from the productive "rich" under threat of imprisonment and give it to people that will be dependent on them and will continue to vote for them forever.

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Nov 14, 2020, 2:14 AM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

How old are you? You are clearly too young to have any clue about the history of this country and about what’s going on right now! What’s going on right now is not just people looking for a change. This is it the same thing is my generation having the older generation say get off my lawn. This is way way way beyond that! Things are different right now in the culture war. Democrats want abortions to be up until the day before birth. That’s insane! And that’s just one example of the things to people on the far left are pushing for. It’s not just the right and conservatives and Republicans pushing back on what’s happening right now. Tons and tons of traditional liberals are pushing back because the far left is insane and out of their minds! What’s going on right now is completely anti-American. Completely anti-democracy. If you don’t see that don’t understand that it’s because you don’t want to see it or you’re too dumb to see it ir you’re too young to understand! Because you have no context no reference.

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Nov 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

You asked how old that poster is. I can guarantee you less than 25. Fully indoctrinated

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Try again***


Nov 14, 2020, 5:39 PM



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I think he meant mentally and emotionally.***


Nov 16, 2020, 8:52 PM



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Re: I think he meant mentally and emotionally.***


Nov 16, 2020, 11:01 PM

You sure got me good. I’m just the one out of the two of us with any reply in this thread with any sense of substance behind it.

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Nov 14, 2020, 5:36 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

If you're talking to me, I'm old enough to know I'm not voting for any Republican like I have many times before in presidential elections as long as the GOP remains the party of Trump. Bush wasn't exactly competent, but he also wasn't a habitually lying and completely unqualified con man. McCain would have been a good president - despite picking a clown for VP - and Romney would have been fine enough.

What is anti-democracy is a wanna-be authoritarian President utilizing the DOJ's AG as their personal attorney to punish their enemies and help their friends. What is anti-democracy is claiming mass fraud in an election months before the election is even held and then using that set-up to turn your loss into a political hornet's nest to rile up your base and by extension assist authoritarian governments world-wide. What is anti-democracy is firing anyone in an oversight position to you who does something counter to your personal agenda or otherwise anyone not a "Yes" man. What is anti-democracy is fighting against transparency in the Executive branch and on and on...

I can speak personally that no one I know wants late-term abortion except in extreme cases where a mother's life is in danger. This isn't some 17-year-old who decides last minute they don't want a kid and democrats are fine with that; there's a middle ground. I also personally don't know anyone who has ever talked about abortion "up until the day before birth" - that's absurd again barring some extreme example where the child is dead and the mother will die if she tries to naturally birth him/her. Again, anyone here pro-life can tell me how you want to fund taking care of these unwanted children and I'll listen. Until then, you care about that child until it's out of the womb and then you don't seem to care about helping them after that.


This "far left" notion is tiring and the byproduct of frankly "far right" rhetoric designed in part at a minimum to fracture this country by keying on people who aren't able to critically think on their own enough to discern that reality lies somewhere in the middle of the extremes.

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So you think God brought us this prez?


Nov 16, 2020, 11:28 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

He is the most immoral corrupt prez ever, and will end up in prison or Russia or both in near future. We grabbed him by the ball ots...

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Nov 14, 2020, 6:02 PM [ in reply to Re: The Influx Of Wanting True Freedom Is Desired --- ]

Change is fine, I like change. But before I change my home I want to see the next one and make a decision if I would rather have it or keep the one I have. We aren’t being given that, we are just being told we have a new home. This new generation and many people with nothing are leading this charge. I hope you guys are right, because we may all be poor together until a retaliatory action comes that lands some in chains.

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Re: times have changed


Nov 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

People who live a sheltered existence on a college campus tend to have a warped view of reality and their politics reflect it. One would think people who work a few hours a week, have almost totally job security and can retire well before most of us with a nice pension wouldn't be so full of hatred for the taxpayers (and country) that make such a privileged existence possible. Self loathing tends to work that way I suppose.

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Nov 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

And when Marxist professors ... Knijnenburg ... name-call and physically threaten conservatives, with no repercussions from the administration, it tells you all you need to know!

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Nov 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

It is sad. It’s almost like segregation all over again... everybody needs their “safe space” with everyone who is just like them. I don’t get it.... and don’t understand the purpose of intentionally dividing ppl bc of their differences. If that’s the way we are moving forward I feel we’re doing the opposite and moving backwards.

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Sincerely: ####


Nov 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

If you can’t comprehend the concept of human empathy, that’s fine, but take it somewhere else.

It’s embarrassing enough to post that anywhere, much less here in a space that should be free from this terrible take. I don’t want to be associated with your BS and the flock of sycophants who will latch onto this reply to back you up now.

I’m sure you’re also the type to espouse Christianity and not even have a basic understanding of the Old Testament in conjunction with the New Testament. I’m sure you also use whatever limited knowledge you have on the topic to misconstrue and warp your intolerance into some slight against you whenever someone not like you gets any sense of normalcy that you’ve probably experienced your entire life as what I can only assume is an older white male.

TLDR; GFY and anyone else on this board that feels the same.

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Re: Sincerely: ####


Nov 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

Well that post of yours was a lot of nothing LOL I mean, it' all adjectives . . . no meat. I 'm sure your chest was puffed . . but it said nothing son.

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Re: Sincerely: ####


Nov 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

4 to 5 years in the work force and they will be okay.

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I'm well past that . Anything else?***


Nov 14, 2020, 5:41 PM



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Go answer the questions I separately listed


Nov 14, 2020, 5:40 PM [ in reply to Re: Sincerely: #### ]

There's more meat in my posts than whatever drivel you just posted. Calling me "son" tells me everything I need to know about you.

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Re: Sincerely: ####


Nov 14, 2020, 8:08 AM [ in reply to Sincerely: #### ]

Marxist

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I'm pro-democracy and anti-authoritarianism.***


Nov 14, 2020, 5:43 PM



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Ironic that your profile pic says "LOVE" but you just


Nov 16, 2020, 3:22 PM [ in reply to Sincerely: #### ]

told someone else to "go f*** yourself."

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Love is Love, even up the ### apparently.***


Nov 16, 2020, 8:54 PM



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Re: Love is Love, even up the ### apparently.***


Nov 16, 2020, 10:57 PM

Intolerant jack@ss says what? Enjoy watching the world continue to pass you by as you pine on here for fake internet points.

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Re: Love is Love, even up the ### apparently.***


Nov 17, 2020, 6:12 PM

You're just not that bright, are ya kiddo?

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Nov 16, 2020, 11:07 PM [ in reply to Ironic that your profile pic says "LOVE" but you just ]

That would assume the love was implied for all - which was never the case.

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Wokeness is killing the education system


Nov 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

Both conservatives and liberals should be afraid of it. Universities were once places to debate ideas and sometimes agree to disagree. With wokeness you can't disagree without being called a racist or something else. Different outcomes for different people doesn't mean there is this magic systematic racism going on. These critical theories have now been taught from grade school and up, everyone tries to identify in specific groups and tell the other groups they are wrong. Wokeness will begin to start to infiltrate workplaces next. Not sure how to stop it at this point. Watch the documentaries on evergreen state from 2017, it is very scary and hard to believe it happened in the usa

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Confetti Tears for America!


Nov 13, 2020, 11:29 PM

Thx for trying Founding Fathers but we’re going down from within our (bad word but ~>) borders!

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good grief. So many drama queens on here


Nov 13, 2020, 11:42 PM

Clemson taken over by Marxism.
The "spirit of the anti Christ".

Not everything has to be seen through the lens of the hyperbolic Fox News pain point pushing

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Re: good grief. So many drama queens on here


Nov 14, 2020, 2:41 AM

2 men boning each other is a sin and no different than wearing out a sheep.

Now if that's your thing, go for it. Just dont tell me I've got to agree with it or give u special treatment .

And yes, Clemson is no different than most other liberal run institutions, and is as complicit as other institutions in their turning out liberals who hate the constitution and the reason this country was founded

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The common 'theme' in so many of these positions is


Nov 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

Fear. No species has used fear to manipulate for self-gain and hold sway over others like the human species. And every single 'agenda item' uses fear...and NONE uses fear like religion does.

Couple fear with arrogance...that's a bad brew. Left, right, conservative, liberal, black, white, short, tall, fat, skinny, gay, etc., find your spot in the sand and anchor yourself to your cause! But when you do, you will miss SO much more of what this nation and this planet have to offer! It's your life, though, so make your choice and deal with the ramifications.

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Liberals hate the Constitution. Rich...


Nov 14, 2020, 5:45 PM [ in reply to Re: good grief. So many drama queens on here ]

Give me some reasons why and I'll listen.

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Re: Liberals hate the Constitution. Rich...


Nov 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

You listen lol

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Re: Liberals hate the Constitution. Rich...


Nov 14, 2020, 6:04 PM

I'm being serious; I'm not even a "liberal". I've voted exactly one time for any democrat and that was this year for Biden because Trump is not the answer except to this future Jeopardy! question: "Which former impeached President lost the popular vote twice and was indicted by the SDNY for multiple crimes after leaving office?".

The beauty is we'll see in due time if that holds true. The lot of you can sit in retrospect then on your past decisions. In the interim, feel free to contribute meaningfully to the conversation if you'd like to do so.

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Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 8:16 AM

What was done in Cuba through Castro, and China and Algeria and other countries is being done in the US. Communists use a person(s) to cause division by forging a civil rights movement and if you don’t follow it, you are a racist, názî, fàcist, etc. You are shamed into following the movement or face humiliation and even financial or physical harm. Have you seen the organized mob activity by the bIack population? This was also organized in the 60s, same concept. They choose a group with a legitimate cause like inequality and light that fire. They promise the bIacks their own government and states. But some of them come out of the movement once they realize they are being used by Communists like cattle. The same song “We Shall Overcome” was sung in Cuba, led by Castro. It was sung in the US led by MLK. The first step in defeating what’s going on here in the US is to uncover the plan and work to have less government and a more stable financial system. The media will light the fire and censor as it sees fit. It will be very hard to bring the US back to a resemblance of freedom.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 10:27 AM

Jimicon you are spot on. Just a basic understanding of history would make what you described clear. It’s so obvious that I just can’t understand why more people don’t see it.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 5:50 PM [ in reply to Communism ]

How do you propose that these "cattle" demonstrate their freedom of speech to stand up against hatred and inequality? What in your mind is the appropriate way to protest or speak to those "legitimate" causes that you reference?

To be clear, I don't condone looting or rioting or other violent forms of protesting. I also don't believe much of that is in any way largely organized as a whole. I'd just love to hear your rationale to state that there is "organized mob activity by the black population". To me, that's pretty clear where your heart lies and maybe you can take a look at that.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 6:07 PM

When I see the true mob they are mostly white, spoiled brat Marxist. In the inner cities it’s mostly black but I believe they are angry because they have been trapped and replaced by an almost super human Hispanic work force that will triple under Biden. This will get much worse before inner city African Americans lives get remotely better. That said these riots won’t end with Biden, it’s going to be very dangerous.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

Biden will not be the president. Heads are about to roll and the democrat party is about to be exposed for what it is.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

What do think is going to happen? Let me guess, you think - like Tucker Carlson has told you - that Joe Biden is a hologram who will either in actuality or in practicality step down to allow the "far left" to roll through their "crazy" plans.

Tell me what you really fear is actually going to happen and what the democratic party is according to your mind.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

The democrat party is controlled by communists. How’s that?

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Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 1:07 PM

You're fear mongering or sucked into the fear mongering of others on the extreme right. If anything, it's far easier to point out facts as to how the current administration is moving the country closer to a dictatorship. I've already mentioned some of those actions in this thread in regard to the Executive branch in the past 4 years. Do you have any actual reasoning behind what you're writing or are you just parroting pathetic talking points with no meat behind it? I'm going to guess it's the latter.

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 2:46 PM

Total woke garbage. You must be antifa

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

Any substantive reply is welcome. Go read my other posts in this thread; same to the poster who followed your reply.

Until then, feel free to keep attacking anyone who disagrees with your seemingly narrow worldview in any sense. I’m here for a dialogue and you’re apparently here to circle-jerk your limited knowledge on the current state of politics with other like-minded sycophants. If so, great and good luck.

I guarantee I follow politics across all spectrums more than you do, but I don’t need to attack you or waste my time on anyone not willing to be open to listening/learning.

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 8:42 PM [ in reply to Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true. ]

By the way, I AM anti-fascism. Are you? If not, that doesn’t sound very American to me.

Am I part of some made-up group? No, I’m not. Are you part of the KKK?

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 16, 2020, 8:35 PM

You sure sound and smell like antifa

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What is antifa, my knowledgable friend?


Nov 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

You’ve added nothing of substance to this entire conversation. Congrats.

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Give me a single fact to how this is true. ]

Do you know what communism is? Have you studied history? Have you taken the tome to honestly look at how countries move from capitalism to communism? How friggin old are you? I’m assuming under 30 and woke?

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Re: Give me a single fact to how this is true.


Nov 15, 2020, 8:38 PM

I’ve already spoken on this thread to me personally. I didn’t need to reply, but I have already done so and I’ll let you do that basic research if you want to know more for some reason.

If it’s obvious that we are transitioning to a communist state before your very eyes, I’m sure you can clearly and succinctly outline that here. Again, it’s obvious to you that more people can’t see it so it should be a simple exercise for you.

I’d wager it’s much easier to successfully argue to any non-entrenched third party that this current administration - along with certain GOP enablers - is more akin to some form of anti-democracy than whatever hypothetical you can come up with.

I’ll state right now unequivocally just given the amount of voters who have left the Republican Party or otherwise voted for Biden should tell you that more people are fearful of a continued push to authoritarianism than some hypothetical and dreamed push to communism. If this country starts to head down that path then guess what, we can vote again. Until then, I’ll worry about the actual threat to this country and democracy.

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Re: Communism


Nov 14, 2020, 6:21 PM [ in reply to Re: Communism ]

Why does everyone assume that you have to be "Marxist" to support equality? I'm not even going to touch the rest of this post.

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I had rather be dead than red (GOP red) Putin has been


Nov 16, 2020, 11:31 PM [ in reply to Communism ]

handling Trump like a puppet, and has almost destroyed our Democracy.

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It sure got awfully quiet whenever


Nov 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

someone starting challenging some of the opinions in this thread. I'm guessing no one wants to discuss any actual points or that no one thinks they can sufficiently back up their views - which is exactly what I expected.

If you want to attack me in reply to this instead of addressing any of my points, I'm going to ignore it. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss off this board, but I'll leave these posts here for future reference.

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Re: It sure got awfully quiet whenever


Nov 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

Views are views, everyone is entitled to them. Is a football forum, your work place or the middle of a Hwy or intestate the place for that. I say no! We really don’t live in a time where people dislike people of color or gays by majority. So a few people don’t? Make the entire world a miserable place to live until they do? Are you a Jehovahs Witless? Must the entire world conform to your views or die? Calm the he!! Down already, most everyone that matters unless you frequent whites only trailer parks agrees with you. Why keep on with this, snap the ball and let’s do what the mantra says...find unity! Which means shutting up sometimes and listening to other viewpoints. Marvel at that!

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I’m just replying to a thread someone posted here.


Nov 16, 2020, 11:18 PM

If the mods don’t like it then maybe someone should do their job (paid or unpaid) and delete or move it. That’s fine by me because I’m tired of being embarrassed by half of the clowns on the board circle jerking themselves off to keep their minds in this supposed safe haven of intolerance while threads like this get left up here for all to see.

Why do you think I stopped contributing to this site years ago? I have barely posted because of small-minded morons like the one who created this thread that are left here for other jack@sses to spew their garbage into the void.

Meanwhile, you want to talk football? How about the recruits or their families that go here for news and see this trash? Why don’t you get more upset at that if you care about Clemson football.

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Re: It sure got awfully quiet whenever


Nov 16, 2020, 6:13 PM [ in reply to It sure got awfully quiet whenever ]

It got quiet because I’m just not in the mood. I can bring examples to back my position all day long. You will the counter all day long and around and around we go. Right now I’m in a hotel in Durham. My wife is up here having medical tests so again, I just don’t have energy to debate. So, let me just say this ,God bless, Go Tigers, Go Tar Heels and have a great evening.

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I’m not going to argue endlessly with you, Tardog.


Nov 16, 2020, 11:22 PM

I just wanted an example or fact and you didn’t give any on a frankly pretty wild take.

Send them to me separately when and if you want and I’ll listen.

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Re: times have changed


Nov 16, 2020, 3:25 PM

Times have changed, why don’t you just use the N word describing some of our players and go all 1958 on us? I’m not gay but don’t mind if you do, what’s it to me? Mods need to take out the trash with this ??

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So Qanon is a q'ueer org?***


Nov 16, 2020, 11:12 PM



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