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Lets just put the elephant on the table
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Lets just put the elephant on the table

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:36 PM
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Yes or No. Will Dabo fire Wes?

I say no (even though I think he should).

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:37 PM
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Absolutely yes. Wes will be fired or demoted. Bank on it.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:38 PM
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Should he? Yes...will he? No.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:39 PM
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I’m really not sure but he DEFINITELY should. I just don’t know if he’ll do it. Maybe Wes will volunteer to step down after their inevitable conversation about how the season went.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:39 PM
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I very seriously doubt it....I give it a 20% chance he fires Wes

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:41 PM
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Wes will be fired come Monday.
I guaran-damn-tee it

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:44 PM
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You don’t get to vote twice. This isn’t a presidential election ;)

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Lets just put the elephant on the table ]
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Not sure you have a clear perspective. I'm thinking you are a hater.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:27 AM
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Hater of what? Poor LB coaching? Poor defensive playcalling? Poor effort to make adjustments?

If so then yes I reckon I’m a hater

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:15 AM [ in reply to Re: Lets just put the elephant on the table ]
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Saving this for receipts.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:23 AM
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Save it brother. It’s happening

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No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:40 PM
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Goodwin never should’ve been hired as our DC. Ridiculous.

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Re: No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:41 PM
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Facts

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N O ~


Dec 21, 2024, 11:42 PM [ in reply to No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025. ]
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Dabo is not gonna fire Porky but instead give him another year, IMO!

But, at least put him uP in the Bird perch so to give him better vision and put assistant with fire in his belly on the sidelines.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:51 PM
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The defense has exponentially gotten worse every year he has been in charge. Give him one more year, and we may be last in most statistical categories. I don’t see a path for him keeping his job even if Dabo wants him to stay.

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Jan 30, 2009, 1:30 PM [ in reply to No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025. ]
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No, he should never have even been considered for the job with his absolute lack of coaching experience.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:50 PM [ in reply to No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025. ]
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I still believe the only reason he became DC is because BV wanted him and Dabo decided to do what it would take to keep that from happening.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:59 PM
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Should have let him go. He's great for a big 12 defense.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:51 PM [ in reply to No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025. ]
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And your pulse is too low to give your opinions any weight.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:17 AM [ in reply to No, but he will be on a short leash for 2025. ]
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Unfortunately I can't argue this!

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:42 PM
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Everyone said Streeter was back. Everyone said Austin was back.

Don't ever believe that you know what Dabo is going to do. Dude is competitive as any coach out there. He thought he had a formula of family coaches but that will change as needed. He will change as needed but he will get DEF fixed.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:44 PM
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Yep. Goodwin is gone.

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He has shown in the past that he will make changes.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Lets just put the elephant on the table ]
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Usually very slowly, but he will make them.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Lets just put the elephant on the table ]
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I will put you down as a maybe ;)

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:43 PM
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I'm not worried about him.

The elephant in the room is that god y portal and if we're being honest...It's about to hit us hard.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:47 PM
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Wrong. Portal is not the problem.

We just hit the portal for some really great additions to the team.

The problem here is coaching and fundamentals. We have the talent to play with anybody. We need better coaching.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:00 AM
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No...you missed my point.

We're about to feed the portal. Big time...

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:07 AM
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No, I understood your point.

I’m saying that we can use the portal as well as anyone else. Can we feed it also? Sure, but if the portal is anyone’s game, we showed we can use it too.

My main point is that, as it stands right now, we don’t really even NEED the portal. For a couple positions, yes, but overall it’s not needed. We have the talent here already.

What we do not have is the proper coaching.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:48 PM
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Yes

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I think minimum he gives Whammy more of a role***

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:50 PM
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I don't think he will be fired.

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Dec 21, 2024, 11:51 PM
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I think so yes.

A few thoughts:
Don’t blame Wes for accepting the job. Very tough act following BV
Our recruiting/Talent acquisitionhas precipitously fallen off. Again, there are coaching issues and we have to fix that. But we better improve our talented depth across-the-board on defense If we want to be elite again on defense
Mixing a young,inexperienced DC with lessening talented depth Is no recipe for success
Like Luke, better go out there and hire the very best available

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:03 AM
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Let's address the 30,000-pound gorilla in the room.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:04 AM
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I see people worried bc of his comment of “winning the league, making playoffs, etc.”

He fired Streeter following the season we won the ACC and lost to Tennessee in the bowl game.

So to answer your question, yes. I think he will.
He was just being coy because he didn’t want to show his hand before having the chance to sit down with Goodwin and do it face to face.
He has a personal relationship with Goodwin, outside the realm of football, and would want to give him the service of having a conversation privately before going public with it.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:09 AM
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I think he will. There's no way around it or to defend it. Defense hasn't been able to shut down anyone all year long.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:12 AM
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He’s gone.

But no way Dabo fires him before Christmas.

No point in it.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:16 AM
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I would say so. It may not be this week due to Christmas, but I think it happens by January 6th.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:21 AM
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I say yes.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:27 AM
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we have gotten worse under Goodwin 3 consecutive years. We had a real shot to win had we shut down their run game. That was far and away the best offensive performance Texas saw all year, and they owned the clock and limited our possesions. I hate to see such a great offensive performance go to waiste. They had 7 TD's passes thrown on them all year, Cade got 3 of them.

He will undoubtedly enter next season as a Heisman frontrunner, he has not hit his ceiling yet, and showed continued improvement With the receivers we have coming back, I see another monster year for him. I am seriously worried about what we have coming back on our front seven unless we hit the Portal hard. Goodwin will have gis work cut out for him because he will be given another year.

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Dec 22, 2024, 12:50 AM
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I don't know what Dabo will do but my gut tells me if you live around Clemson and Goodwin owes you money, you better collect it in the next few days.

Either way, hire a dayum LB coach with playing and coaching experience!

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