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Too many vids and social media.
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Not enough fam.
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Most universities dont talk much about them because they seem to
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Oct 31, 2024, 9:49 PM
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spawn copycats
Rough stuff
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Dont think so.
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Oct 31, 2024, 9:53 PM
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we hear about school shootings daily from around the country.
No one wants to address mental illness and social media and the effects they both have on each other. Too much money at stake.
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Re: Late 70s we had a jumper off Martin Hall
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Oct 31, 2024, 10:10 PM
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After the body was recovered and the area was cleaned up, someone painted a bulls eye on the ground. The university was not pleased.
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Not to be morbid, but isn't Martin like three stories?
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Oct 31, 2024, 10:27 PM
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You'd think they would head for a high rise or Strode Tower.
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Re: Not to be glib, but gravity still worked***
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Oct 31, 2024, 10:28 PM
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That was my thought.
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Nov 1, 2024, 10:44 AM
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I've jumped off the roof of a 2 story house beforee while drunk (I was much more limber back then) and only broke a wrist and sprained an ankle.
If I was gonna end it, a 3rd story building seems risky.
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Re: Anyone noticing this spate of university jumper suicides?
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Oct 31, 2024, 10:38 PM
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That's so terrible. I sometimes wonder how much the Internet has to do with this, and how awful people are on the Internet. This is the only social media I do. I've never had Twitter, Facebook, or anything else, but I can get sucked into the negativity of some parts of this board (thank goodness for the Jounge). I have to think some of these young people are sucked into all the negativity of all the social media. We old geezers are pre internet, and can separate this from reality easier than I think some young adults can. Sorry... some sugar and wine induced ramblings.
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not to go full Pol.
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Oct 31, 2024, 11:59 PM
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But we have a terrible problem with preying on people's fears because it's good for fundraising. It's even worse on kids because they don't have the context that adults do to realize it may be a bag of crap. So we end up traumatizing then to believe a school shooter is around every corner, or if they don't act now the world is going to end. We've transfered all our neurosis to kids who are powerless to do anything about the things we're telling them they'll suffer through.
It's why I find using kids as political props at rallies, matches, etc to be so disgusting. We should protect them from the vulgarities of politics for as long as possible.
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Re: not to go full Pol.
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Nov 1, 2024, 1:25 AM
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Probably the vulgar in general, but teach them to help the vulgar rise, through their decency and integrity.
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Ultimate Tiger [36146]
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Exactly. We can still teach values without putting a partisan dump on it.
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Nov 1, 2024, 10:13 AM
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Like when I talk with the munchkin about littering, or why we hand out McD gift cards to the folks at the corners. There's a huge line partisanship and values, but we like to make it as thin as possible because adults need to see their kids as self-reflecting avatars of their virtue signalling.
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I agree totally with you.
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Nov 1, 2024, 3:36 AM
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Children need to be protected. That was one of the reasons gave to the parents of the kids on the baseball team I coached. I was listing why parents shouldn't openly criticize umps in front of the kids.
Children are precious gifts of God and should not be hearing, seeing or experiencing in any manner adult things and situations. They will find out the world is an unfair and vicious place all soon enough, let them enjoy childhood as long as possible.
I seldom heard an adult conversation as a child. It left me a bit naive but it taught me that a naive child is apt to be more virtuous than one which is exposed to the unfairness of the world too soon. Understanding this cruel world is hard on young adults much more so on the most tender and innocent among us.
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Im going to say yes and no
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Nov 1, 2024, 7:39 AM
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I hear what you’re saying, but I grew up in the era when we truly thought the Russians could nuke us at any minute. Red Dawn wasn’t some fantasy, it was a stylized documentary of what we thought could really happen at any point.
And yet with that hanging over our heads, I don’t believe suicide rates were near where they are today. You can say the same about kids during WWII, etc.
Somehow our kids now are internalizing that their lives, and lives in general, are worth less than they really are. I’ll stop there to also avoid going P&R, but I think the reasons are real, varied, and numerous.
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Election time is very stressful for families with strong political opinions.
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Oct 31, 2024, 10:54 PM
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I can only imagine how intense that is when they go to University and find out that some of their peers have very opposing opinions.
Man isn’t designed to direct even his own step. Crazy throwing kids out there to do our fighting for us, when we aren’t qualified to teach our own kids. But that’s what some parents do. Let’s hope the universitys reach them. Let’s hope.
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No butt....
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Nov 1, 2024, 3:23 AM
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I had a physics lab partner that went into the mountains, set up a tent, ran a hose from his car's exhaust into the tent and oft himself. Had another on our hall in tin cans that had a photographic memory from Spartanburg that also did himself in. His Mom was a teacher.
I don't get news about Nashville area.
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Re: Anyone noticing this spate of university jumper suicides?
Nov 1, 2024, 2:51 PM
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Didn't realize we were that close to finals week. Must be midterms.
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I don't think this can ever be completely solved
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Nov 1, 2024, 3:30 PM
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it's been happening since man evolved, and will always happen.
There's some 25-50,000 kids on a college campus, statistics say there's gonna be a couple who resort to this every year, who just can't deal with whatever is going on in their desperate minds. It's a very low percentage, but not zero. Does a school no good to publicize.
A guy I went to Clemson with, late '80s, he was a ChemE major, dean's list type. Smart guy. No outward issues. His final semester, last week of school - and he had already accepted a job with Texaco or Exxon (some big oil firm in TX) - he blew his own head as final exams loomed. Nobody ever figured out why.
I agree that social media is making things worse, not better, but this has always gone on in some unfortunate percentage, forever.
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