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FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:05 PM
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:10 PM
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This is a joke right
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:16 PM
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it has to be. I think BK is good but he's not better than DW4.... Noone is in college right now. if McDoosh can't see that then he obviously has no clue what he's doing. how does this clown even have a job? he QBd for a bum school vs pee wee level competition. is espn seriously running out of options?
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check the source - mcghey
Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM
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what a dooshnozzle. sorry for the inappropriate language but it had to be said
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Re: check the source - mcghey
Aug 17, 2016, 7:37 PM
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I feel like the emperor laughing.... bring it baby, fuel for the fire!! Hahahahahahahahahahahhaa!!!!
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:14 PM
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Then why didn't he score a single fn point against us last year? I know Shaq knocked him out of the game early in the 2nd quarter but by that time, Deshaun already put 21pts on the board. Dude this analysts make me crazy.
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 6:24 PM
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He failed to beat the Coots in The Steveport Bowl .
DW4 has never lost to those tools .
Pay attention Mr. Expert Man .
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Hahaha!
Aug 17, 2016, 5:16 PM
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Holy crap! They're just trying to see how dumb we are!
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Orange Blooded [2481]
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Before anyone gets upset, this is only....
Aug 17, 2016, 5:17 PM
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Meant to create discussion, I'm sure.
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"dissing and cussing" lmao***
Aug 17, 2016, 7:30 PM
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Tell Kaaya that Shaq is waiting for him in the NFL
Aug 17, 2016, 5:20 PM
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Orange Blooded [4712]
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Bye Felisha!***
Aug 17, 2016, 5:37 PM
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McSway must have gotten into
Aug 17, 2016, 10:43 PM
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Felisha's stash.
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:20 PM
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didnt McShay personally witness the beat down Deshaun and Company gave to Kaaaaayyyaaaaa??? Maybe when Shaq KO'd Kaaya that shockwave gave Toddy boy a concussion, too. Would explain his poor analysis.
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he must have not watched the Clemson tape
Aug 17, 2016, 5:21 PM
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but who knows maybe he is a little more ready. after all hes been hit and crushed and clobbered and slammed and smashed and blasted and popped and creamed and well you get the drift.
bottom line Kayaa isn't fit to hold up DW4's jockstrap
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Tape? This punk was ON the sideline for that 58 pt beatdown.
Aug 17, 2016, 7:48 PM
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He's just an idiot.
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I don't agree with McShay but when they evaluate QBs they arent really
Aug 17, 2016, 5:24 PM
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looking at team success or really even production. Look at all of those Texas tech QBs that threw for 5k yards and didn't get drafted.
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I love the last paragraph!!! Awesome***
Aug 17, 2016, 5:27 PM
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perhaps Todd has the concussion
Aug 17, 2016, 5:28 PM
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Since yesterday..
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110%er [5737]
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Yeah, and so is,
Aug 17, 2016, 5:29 PM
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Perry Orth!
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:41 PM
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am sure it is because his current coach was in the SEC
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 5:42 PM
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You know, I have watched B. K. play for soon to be 3 seasons. And in that time I have not seen one game that made me say wow. Not one. I'm not knocking the kid, I'm sure he's a nice young man and all that. But since midway of his freshman year all the experts have touted him as the next big thing. His arm is ok, he has a decent release. His footwork is ok, just ok. From what I have seen he is above average at reading a defense. So... all that and your saying he's better than a kid who has simply won at every level, has what many experts call the best touch on a deep ball seen at ANY LEVEL, and is as athletic as they come? Yeah.. seems legit. SMH
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Must be one that loved how TALL Logan Thomas was as a QB.***
Aug 17, 2016, 5:46 PM
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Funny you mention that, because he was!
Aug 17, 2016, 8:02 PM
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McShay loved Logan Thomas and had him as a first round pick.
He was (still is) a good guy, a serviceable college Quarterback, but he was never a guy that was going to put it together in the pros.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha...wait....can't breath....bwahahahahaha****
Aug 17, 2016, 5:48 PM
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I needed a good laugh
Aug 17, 2016, 6:18 PM
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After the day I had, I needed a good laugh!!!
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Todd is a blathering McIdiot!***
Aug 17, 2016, 5:55 PM
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"Fast eyes" huh. Guess tht makes Shaq is faster than sight.***
Aug 17, 2016, 6:01 PM
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Kaya does not have Watson's supporting cast
Aug 17, 2016, 6:05 PM
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Clemson's destruction of Kaya is more of a statement to Clemson's strength and the sad sacks surrounding Kaya.
I'm biased and I do believe that Watson is superior in all ways with the exception of height. Kaya is listed as 6' 4" and to NFL scouts the taller the better (to a point) all else being equal. I've heard that DW is a generous 6' 2". If i had to bet, Id still predict DW as #1 QB to go off the board. He has the complete package with the exception of height. Yes, Drew Breed has shown that a 6 footer can get it done. I know.
May the butt hurt be with you.
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Further proof that Todd McShay is an absolute idiot....
Aug 17, 2016, 6:21 PM
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and that if he had even the slightest idea what he was talking about, he'd be working a scout for an NFL franchise as opposed to working for ESPN.
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Athletic Dir [1158]
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Ok ok ESPN needs to reevaluate it's talent! This guy needs a cat scan
Aug 17, 2016, 6:32 PM
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Idiot
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Re: Ok ok ESPN needs to reevaluate it's talent! This guy needs a cat scan
Aug 17, 2016, 6:45 PM
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You can't teach stupid, it's inherited. I'm hoping he can draw from enough intelligent people and change his assertion once the season is at an end. If he can't and his innate stupid prevails, he will probably stick to his guns and vote for Kaya for Heisman should he have a vote, regardless of how much better Watson is, just because he doesn't have the ability to interpret differently.
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Them fast eyes didn't see Shaq? Yep Kaaya on his back
Aug 17, 2016, 6:38 PM
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with a concussion makes him a perfect fit for the NFL. Kind of see the logic.
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Hey Todd....Put The Crack Pipe Down
Aug 17, 2016, 6:52 PM
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Better Yet Let's Wager on Who Gets Drafted Higher. By The Way You Make Andrea Addledbrain Look Smart.
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Paw Master [17051]
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Here is a great article that shows just how inaccurate Todd McShay has always been.
Aug 17, 2016, 7:28 PM
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He was the water boy at Richmond U. He has never played college football. May he was a bench warmer in high school. But it just supports my opinion that all you have to do is get a job with ESPN or Fox etc...and you immediately become an (####)yst.
Basically the article shows McShay is off by an average of 35 spots when rating players and ranking them.
DW4 # Ranked QB and CF player! It's that ESPN biased towards Clemson. And they are so obvious about it.
https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/equally-inaccurate-an-analysis-of-mel-kiper-jr-and-todd-mcshays-draft-rankings/
Message was edited by: wueagle86®
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If I was running ESPN, I think I would recognize an
Aug 17, 2016, 8:05 PM
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opportunity to cut some fat....
"In other words, you could take Kiper’s “Big Board” or McShay’s Top 25 and ask any random person to put them in any random order, and on average, that person’s rankings will be about as accurate as predicting future NFL success than any of ESPN’s two experts."
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HAHAHAHAHAHA - Kaaya was 6 for 10 for 51 yards and an int
Aug 17, 2016, 7:28 PM
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Kaaya was 6 for 10 for 51 yards and an interception before getting knocked out of the game with a concussion by Shaq Lawson.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!
58 - 0
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Paw Master [17857]
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Yep, looked like a baby deer in our headlights.***
Aug 17, 2016, 7:33 PM
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keep it coming, espn, etc.
Aug 17, 2016, 7:30 PM
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get our guys all riled up, so they can kick
some ####.
go tigers!!!
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 7:42 PM
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Trainer [33]
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Two Sound Bites - One Flip-Flops
Aug 17, 2016, 7:48 PM
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At first I was very amused at this post...Now, I'm just confused - after listening to the other video post of this guy (http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/WATCH-Todd-McShay-discusses-Watson-SportsCenter-23801?ref=front)...I haven't heard either interview in its unedited format, nor do I know which broadcast aired first, but at face value it sounds like he has successfully spoken out of both sides of his mouth.
Video Transcript for THIS post:
Chris Cotter: Is there one quarterback that may be - is more ready than Deshawn Watson to step right in; if you're an NFL team and I need a guy that's going to really compete like a Carson Wentz this upcoming year for that top spot right away?
Todd McShay: I think Brad Kaaya is probably the most NFL ready of all these guys because he, -- he doesn't have a big arm and he, he needs to get a little bit bigger in terms of just his bulk or to hold up -- but he has the height, he can see the whole field and he does it because he has fast eyes and the guy processes information - from what I see on tape - so quickly and efficiently. He has good anticipation which he needs to have if you don't have that big time elite arm. And, and he's, he throws with a lot of touch. I, I think if the offense of system's better this year with Mark Richt there and if they can put together things and…and protected better and put him in better situations, I think he has a chance to really kind of rise up and become, nationally, one...known as one of the elite quarterbacks, where is right now there's just so many questions about him because of the supporting cast.
THE FLIP: Kaaya is most NFL ready off all these guys
(I'm presuming "these guys" were discussed prior to this soundbite)
Other Tigernet Video Post Transcript:
Scott Van Pelt: We know the sweet tooth that the NFL has a quarterbacks. We've seen how they fall in love with guys and, and Winston and Mariota, I, early on returns are really good and see what happens with the Goff and Wentz. Your most recent article I read on .com: There's Deshaun Watson from Clemson who's clearly a number one, even if he's behind so many other guys and -- from the last few years, I mean -- and it seems like, it feels like there's quite a drop off. Is that, is that a fair read?
Todd McShay: I, I think Brad Kaaya from Miami is the next best and I actually didn't have a big gap between grades for Watson and Kaaya and as much as I love Deshaun Watson, what he's able to do in big games, his athleticism, big arm, made some incredible throws at times -- he's got to become more consistent with his accuracy. Kaaya does not have a big arm; not as mobile but he's a decent athlete. But he anticipates, makes a lot of NFL type throws by getting the ball out quickly and really reads the field. He's a smart player. After that I think is where the big drop off is though.
THE FLOP: SVP says DW is "clearly a number one even if he's behind some of these other guys" -- there's that phrase "other guys" -- and then asks McShay who's behind Watson, to which McShay answers "Brad Kaaya...is the next best"
Two Sound Bites - One Flip-Flop
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 7:48 PM
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Here we go again..... "He's so tall!!!"
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But, he's got beady eyes. That has to count for a lot.***
Aug 17, 2016, 8:09 PM
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McShame....***
Aug 17, 2016, 8:54 PM
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 17, 2016, 9:27 PM
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Not an original thought, but I was once told that if you searched the Internet thoroughly enough you can find any thought or idea imageanable
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NFL-ready???
Aug 17, 2016, 9:29 PM
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He needs to get NCAA - READY from what I've seen!
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Athletic Dir [896]
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You lost me at "most NFL ready, but doesn't have a big arm"
Aug 17, 2016, 9:41 PM
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What?
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Athletic Dir [896]
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By definition, you have to have a "big arm" to play in NFL..
Aug 17, 2016, 9:58 PM
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The talking heads harp on that. Deep slant, anyone? Still confused.
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I can only agree to this...
Aug 17, 2016, 9:46 PM
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Kaaya does play in a pro-style offense. That is the only thing he has "over" Watson and I use that term loosely.
What we have learned as of late in the NFL is two things....
1) Size matters: there is a reason QBs like RGIII and Kapernick have struggled in the NFL while Cam Newton have survived. It is not easy to take hits when you are small verses 6'6" 255lbs. No matter if you liable to take off or stand tall in a pocket, if you can't handle the hits, you will not be effective.
2) Can Newton went 14-1 to the Super Bowl last year, two years ago, Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl. Know what each have in common? Neither team play in what is known as a "Pro Style" offense. Just because it is drop back doesn't mean its pro style. Watch close enough Watson will drop back, too. The biggest part is their abilities to decipher the opposing defense's tendencies and exploit them...Deshaun shredded the Miami defense. Kaaya, not much...
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Orange Blooded [4854]
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Re: I can only agree to this...
Aug 17, 2016, 10:55 PM
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Kapernick is 6 ft 4 inches tall.
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Hey Reginald,
Aug 17, 2016, 9:51 PM
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I disagree!
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Game Changer [1784]
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He has Fast What????????????????
Aug 17, 2016, 10:01 PM
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Let's see, he doesn't have a big arm, he's a stick figure, the fast eyes wasn't fast enough for Lawson and he can't run. Ready for the NFL??? When did ESPN start hiring comedians?
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I've heard a lot of presidential campaign remarks that were
Aug 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
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stupid. This comment puts those to shame. Seriously..he just described why he wasn't the most ready in his comments. Guess his salary was the only one that would fit in what was left of the ESPN budget.
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just another Logan Thomas***
Aug 18, 2016, 8:26 AM
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Aug 18, 2016, 11:14 AM
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Amen - you beat me to it. These ESPN guys lock onto a player THEY want to be good. In doing so, they overlook/marginalize real talent.
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 18, 2016, 9:05 AM
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"NFL ready" and "better" are completely different concepts. "NFL ready" can be attributed solely to the offenvise scheme that Miami runs vs Clemson's offense. Obviously, DW is the better QB. Better mechanics, arm strength, mobility, decision making and over all effectiveness (especially effectiveness in big games).
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Solid Orange [1376]
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This was highly taken out of context...He said DW was
Aug 18, 2016, 9:08 AM
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his absolute number one quarterback. Then the other guy asked him who else is more NFL ready other than Watson that could step in and make an immediate impact.
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He's right ... in one respect
Aug 18, 2016, 9:15 AM
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Kaaya and DW will be high draft picks, meaning they'll likely go to rotten teams.
Kaaya already has a lot more experience running for his life and plucking turf from his britches than DW. So he'll be a master at that.
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Re: He's right ... in one respect
Aug 18, 2016, 11:37 AM
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Agreed. And Kaaya doesn't strike me as one who can run away very well, while this is one of Watson's specialties. I'll take a scrambler/thrower over a slow footed thrower any day.
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Re: FB Update: ESPN analyst says Kaaya is more NFL-ready QB than Watson
Aug 18, 2016, 3:21 PM
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Guy at ESecPN never cease to amaze with their idiosy
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