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Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Young says he decommitted from Clemson because he didn't see the class being full of players that could help push him to get better. Didnt think the future looked bright with a weak class.
I can respect that mindset. But also brings up some questions about the future of Clemson recruiting. Not gonna beat the horse on those but just wanted to say this kids perspective was one i hadn't thought about. All we hear is kids chasing money here or chas money there. This kid was looking for competition to improve and develop his game and didn't see that in the Clemson class
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:43 AM
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That tells you what the kids think about dabos new dandy dozen class. If he’s thinking it others are also. They want a school that’s on the upswing and are bringing in studs. And unfortunately dabos falling short on both fronts🤷♂️
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:46 AM
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Or is Young just trying to make things sound good for himself. I bet his wallet is thicker now.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 9:55 AM
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I think both is probably highly likely. Definitely the money part. But just hearing that perspective brings up some interesting points.
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Game Changer [1707]
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Dec 6, 2024, 12:01 PM
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Yea that’s more like it just so happens Michigan grad new husband is worth 240 billion and he started to throw NIL money around why they flipped #1 overall too. Young been committed for like a month he say ppl leaving b4 he even committed like blah blah w.e you wanna say but you got more money bro just be honest man I hate when they just want say it. Hope you the best at that cold school. Go Tigers!!!
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 11:29 PM
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Yep that’s what I thought. I think he KNEW he was gonna be asked by interviewers about getting offered more money as reason he de-committed so he thought about what his response would be in advance and came up with this one that he likely heard already from other schools. No doubt more money is the actual reason he went elsewhere but I can’t say I blame him.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Dec 6, 2024, 12:22 PM
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So you take this kids word over Dabo. I’m sure this kid did not get a dollar from Big Blue that paid over 10 million for a QB taking him away from LSU. Yep I think you got it figured out😂
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Dec 6, 2024, 5:48 PM
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As far as I'm aware, Dabo didn't say a word about why he decommitted. But yes, I tend to trust the kid, and I think anyone who doesn't is an idiot. I am sure he was offered more money. But at the same time, you have to be a moron not to realize that coaches are going to tell recruits that Clemson is no longer relevant, that they're not bringing in elite recruits, and they're getting embarrassed in national games. I would be shocked if folks didn't tell him Clemson's recruiting class sucked. So why wouldn't you believe that played some factor in his decision?
Don't be stupid.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Dec 6, 2024, 5:53 PM
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Follow your own advice
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^^^gets it^^^***
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LOL ,Kid took Michigan $$$$$$ and you DA's repeat
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:47 AM
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what he said as GOSPEL because it fits your tired agenda. If Michigan didn't offer $$$, kid wouldn't be there, that's the REAL perspective
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Re: LOL ,Kid took Michigan $$$$$$ and you DA's repeat
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:53 AM
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Lol my tired agenda....
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So, it's probably both,
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Dec 6, 2024, 11:16 AM
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And if we don't fix both, we're going to be less and less competitive.
It's up to Dabo to fix it. He get $11 million annually to fix problems. Right now, that is in serious doubt.
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Re: So, it's probably both,
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Dec 6, 2024, 12:23 PM
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Leave it to Bluff to come in with a positive spin😂
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:48 AM
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I would take his response with a little hesitation. Not sure that he would want to admit that he was being offered upfront NIL money and that was the reason for the flip.
Clemson has a pretty good record of putting DBs in the NFL.
Also, we have some top notch young wide receivers that he would have the opportunity to practice against on a day to day basis.
So…..just not sure his reasoning holds water!!
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Legend [6828]
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 12:24 PM
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He probably did not want to compete with the secondary we have
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interesting decommit horse hockey
Dec 6, 2024, 9:49 AM
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he took the money and ran . more power to him.
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We all justify why we do the things we do
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:52 AM
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This is no different. Too much talent on the team, kids leave because they don’t get to play. Not enough talent on the team, kids leave because they weren’t pushed. The bottom line is the kid just changed his mind (for whatever reason), nothing more. Most of the time all you can read into the justification given is the level of maturity of the justifier. It’s no different than DJU saying the playbook was too basic at Clemson, etc…
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Re: We all justify why we do the things we do
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Dec 6, 2024, 9:58 AM
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DJU had it jumbled..... His ability was to basic to run the Clemson offense. LOL
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His makes for a perfect example of how people justify things
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Dec 6, 2024, 11:27 AM
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no matter how strange the justification sounds from the outside looking in.
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Rival Killer [2708]
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That's a lie. $$$$***
Dec 6, 2024, 9:58 AM
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:00 AM
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Sounds like BS. I'd guess our two deep in the secondary was as highly ranked, recruited wise, as is Michigan's. Maybe higher. And he was only committed a few weeks so it's not like he didn't have a decent idea about the situation when he committed. People are going to say whatever self serving thing they can in order to not look like they are just grabbing their bag. Honestly I'd rather these guys just admit they went with the highest bidder instead of making up stuff about their original team.
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:01 AM
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That's interesting. Usually, it's not people in your recruiting class that are pushing you. It's upperclassmen. Looking at the youth of the defensive backs, I believe that he thinks there's not a lot of playing time for him as a freshman or sophomore.
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:07 AM
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Haha yeah right, that kid hasn’t meant a word of what he’s said to the media, or really anybody. He and his family lied to the staff on multiple occasions about their intentions, so I don’t expect him to be truthful. He’s not man enough to come out and just admit he flipped to Michigan for the money, so he has to come up with every excuse he can. It’s pathetic actually.
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money talks, bs walks
Dec 6, 2024, 10:27 AM
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calling bs
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Few people will say - I left because of the money - so they have to make up
Dec 6, 2024, 10:39 AM
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an excuse.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:39 AM
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Michigan was his 4th 'commitment'...they won't be his last...
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:40 AM
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BS. And GT does? He cannot just say hey it was the cash and Clemson would not pony up.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:44 AM
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Well I believe that to be an excuse. Not that he needs one. He stated he was the only DB in the class (like that matters). There are DB’s on campus that would have pushed him.
Just not buying it. Wish him well!
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:46 AM
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He's trying to justify not standing up to his word. In truth the money was too much to ignore, and most of us would have done the same.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 10:54 AM
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He just wanted to be part of a strong recruiting class. The class didn't look like to him like the suture was as bright as he wanted it.
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Game Changer [1971]
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:57 AM
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If you believe that I have a bridge I’d like to sell you. He left for$$$$$$$
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 11:05 AM
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My guess is he asked for Clemson to match or beat the Michigan offer and Dabo said no thanks and good luck. He got the feels from that response and said Clemson has no talent.
Ate Harris looked at the depth chart and who Clemson just redshirted and didn’t see opportunities (Terrell, Hampton, Feagon, Gipson) and got a bigger offer from GT. I would be willing to bet Lukus moves on because he has been passed by Hampton.
It happens kids find out that everyone is on the same talent level in college and it comes down to preparation and technique. They go where there is a lesser challenge. Michigan just lost a bunch of guys to the nfl and transfers when Harbaugh left. Makes it easier to play when the depth chart isn’t as loaded and they offer you more money.
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I absolutely respect it and I believe that he is bering very honest
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:59 AM
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The Michigan defense during their CFP run looked very similar to the Clemson defensive secondary. I think he is a good fit in the Michigan program and would have been a good fit in Venables' and Mike Reed's old defense. The Mickey Conn defense was not what he needed or would benefit from.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 11:10 AM
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Sounds like a guy that didn't want to compete. Regardless I would take his comments with a grain of salt (grade of slaw for you Tnetters). He went for the money, period, and will just not admit it.
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Dec 6, 2024, 11:11 AM
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I think 1 leads to the other.
Also, expect SEC & B1G Recruiters to talk about this often. How soon can we get out of the ACC? Not 1 minute too soon imo.
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Dec 6, 2024, 11:13 AM
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Dude got paid and kids say stupid things.
Maybe he can major in communications if attending classes is still a thing and learn how not to burn bridges.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 11:22 AM
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Young’s argument re ‘weak Clemson recruiting class which would not have good enough players to push him to get better’ first requires some dissection.
Clemson had an excellent class for OL, RB, and DT. The class was weak only in the DE and LB groups, because we wanted one more high end each LB and DE. QB and WR was not a big need; we wanted a QB prospect that wouldn’t be expecting to start for two or three years. We’re stacked at WR. We’ve also got a full TE room. Thus, for WB, WR, and TE, with one signee for each, we got what we wanted.
Why would Young care about the non-DB positions anyways? He’d be covering WRs, TEs, and RBs; we have two RBs and one TE in the class, so RB and TE would not be a viable criticism. We’re signed one WR; is he so dense that he doesn’t realize he’d be practicing against WRs that are older than what would have been part of the 2025 recruiting class?
For the most relevant part, the DB class. Is he such a numbskull that he doesn’t realize that the strongest (depth wise) group on the team is the DB group, with ~ 8+ players each at S and CB? Does he not know that the 2024 class was packed with DBs?
Young is FOS or really dumb. Maybe both.
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I read here on TNet that his family owns the Young bus service that has ferried
Dec 6, 2024, 11:58 AM
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the Clemson football team for many years.
I find it strange that he (and perhaps his family) didn't feel a sense of pride in being a part of Clemson football.
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His mindset says a lot about the perspective of our class and future
Dec 6, 2024, 12:00 PM
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It’s not necessarily true but it’s the perspective some if not a lot of high school recruits have.
It’s something we should be very concerned about.
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Dec 6, 2024, 12:14 PM
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He literally can't come out and say that they paid him more. There could be some truth to what he said but if Michigan clearly paid him to play then that's a violation of the NIL rules (that nobody follows) but could have big ramifications if he were to come out and say "I'm at MI for the money."
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 12:56 PM
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Who?
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:00 PM
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That’s the same garbage Andrew Malins said after he lost his starting spot. Not true. It’s because of the $$.
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:06 PM
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If you're coming to Clemson, you had better be All In.
Jordan Young did not seem to fit that mold.
He shouldn't have had Clemson on his final list, and it should have just come down to NC State (NC is his home state) and Michigan. Therefore, the coaches out recruiting should not have given him an offer.
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How is everyone so sure he is lying?
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:31 PM
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Y'all seem very confident without having any real accurate inside information.
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Re: How is everyone so sure he is lying?
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Dec 6, 2024, 5:59 PM
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They’re coping. He’s probably IS making more money than he would here but, that doesn’t change what he said about the class. Year after year we hear kids in a strong class talk about how their class will get their school a natty. It wasn’t hard to look around and doubt this bunch would ever come close to a natty and not want be apart of this crapfest.
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Well, other kids who think that probably would see an opportunity for early
Dec 6, 2024, 5:50 PM
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playing time at a high profile school. So, the pendulum should quickly swing upward.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 5:53 PM
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They talk to each other and so once a couple fled the others just went like dominos. That's what it sounds like to me.
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Nah, we wouldn't outbid the other guys so he's chasing the money/
Dec 6, 2024, 6:13 PM
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It's all speculation from us but mine is more believable than yours.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 6:14 PM
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I’ve been critical of Dabo’s stance on NIL for high schoolers and the portal. But this non-sense is a joke. All about mone for the kid. . That's ok, but save that garbage excuse.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 7:39 PM
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Gimme a break … he went to Michigan for $$$$$
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 6, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Someone told him to say that.
He’s not smart enough to think that up.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 7, 2024, 7:56 AM
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Clemson football has a pretty solid track record of recruiting. 2024 was not the best class, and the landscaping College Football recruiting is changing substantially, but we’ve got a good track record historically.
Compare that with the comments of an 18-year-old kid? Rough math tells me Jordan young was two years old when Dabo was named head coach. Dabo has been at this a while. Jordan young is new to the whole deal.
When I heard Jordan Young’s comments, I thought these comments were right on target for a young impressionable, potentially naïve, adolescent male.
Regarding our recruiting, don’t worry we are changing things. We WILL use the portal. Help is on the way financially. We will never operate like Oregon or like Tennessee, but we are becoming more active and aggressive and financially capable.
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Re: Jordan Young... interesting decommit perspective
Dec 7, 2024, 8:11 AM
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A day late and a dollar short!
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