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J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:49 AM
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Puppet of Putin’ J.Biden has been told by his handlers that Ukraine cannot ‘win’ the war vs Russia, and that territorial concessions by Ukraine will likely be part of the new objective … a negotiated peace.
Do the Democrat party lemmings (I.e., those who trashed the TNetters who dared to raise the evidence that Ukraine’s offensive from late Spring 2023 had obviously deteriorated into stalemate by end of September, and who had recommended that a negotiated peace [which would unfortunately only take place with territorial concessions] was the only sensible outcome) now put their party leadership into the category of ‘agents of Putin’?
To be fair, there are plenty of Republican Party neocons, including L.Graham and N.Haley, who advocated war war war until Ukraine had ‘won.’
I forget, which prominent non-establishment Republican had advocated for a negotiated settlement to the RUS / UKR war long before the much hyped Ukraine ‘spring offensive’ had begun?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/27/biden-endgame-ukraine-00133211
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It's because I didn't give Ukraine more money.***
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:53 AM
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I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
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Dec 29, 2023, 9:15 AM
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Ocean rise will get us before the Ruskies.
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
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Dec 29, 2023, 10:49 AM
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Unless we're fools enough to give them Ukraine.
A long stalemate that continues to bleed the Russian army out followed by a negotiated peace is absolutely just fine for us and honestly probably good for Ukraine too. What we didn't want was Russia just marching through and winding up on the doorstep of NATO with a big army flush with confidence from their victory. That basically ensures they'll keep coming.
You do not let aggressor nations get started. They don't stop on their own, ever.
It's also worth noting time is not on Russia's side for exactly the same reason it isn't on China's: horrible demographics. The generation born after the wall fell in 1991 is tiny and the one after that is even tinier. They're aging catastrophically and in ten years they won't have the population for this kind of nonsense...which is exactly why Putin is grabbing Ukrainian children to be raised in Russia and paying women to have as many babies as possible. (Which isn't working, BTW.)
We stop them now, they stay stopped this time. We let them keep coming and we likely have WW3. Nothing is more dangerous than a dying monster.
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
Jan 1, 2024, 10:53 PM
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Going back decades before this military conflict Russians suffered abuse at the hands of Ukrainians.
This war is about Russia trying to prevent NATO nuclear weapons from being set up just a 15 minute flight away from Moscow.
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
Jan 2, 2024, 1:15 AM
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Latvia is a little closer to Moscow
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
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Jan 2, 2024, 8:07 AM
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This war is about Russia trying to prevent NATO nuclear weapons from being set up just a 15 minute flight away from Moscow.
"We don't want you joining NATO so close to us, so that justifies us torturing your people, ###### your women, and slaughtering your children!"
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He'd care more if this war was to protect white women from black suitors.***
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Jan 4, 2024, 7:31 PM
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
Jan 2, 2024, 8:05 AM
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You do not let aggressor nations get started. They don't stop on their own, ever.
It's always pretty evident that many here don't know much about history, but the fact that they don't understand this is one of the biggest indicators.
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Like the Maidan Coup...? Enlighten us.***
Jan 4, 2024, 6:16 PM
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Re: I gave all my spare change to fight the Climate Change ...
Jan 2, 2024, 2:41 PM
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All of tha sounds good, except that Ukraine has (as long predicted by reasonable minds) that Ukraine is fast running out of fighting age men by which the war can be continued.
Ukraine is not a NATO member.
Does anyone truly believe that any of the EU NATO countries will be sending their own young men to fight in Ukraine?
Does anyone here want the USA to send our young men (and yes, if we send troops to Ukraine, then the vast majority of them will be men) to Ukraine? If so, then go ahead and push your younger male relatives to join up and go fight.
Your comment “do not let aggressor nations get started” is the correct policy. Unfortunately, Biden admin did zilch as far as taking preparations … either militarily or economically … to discourage Russia for resuming their acquisitive foreign policy after Russia seized the Crimea during Obama’s regime.
(We’ll go ahead and ignore the fact that Putin … he who Ha Ha controlled Trump so thoroughly … behaved timidly while Trump was in office.)
Enter Biden.
Biden immediately threw away the best economic deterrence against Russia (e.g., rapid 3xpansion of America’s energy infrastructure (including but not limited to ‘drill baby drill).
He anlso signalled America’s lack of military will by reversing Trump’s strong push for NATO’s EU members to pay their fair share of NATO dues. Biden, of course, couldn’t endure the derisive remarks that Trump received when Trump pushed NATO to pay up.
Surprise (hardly)! Putin read the signals and decided that ‘sooner better than later’ in Invade Ukraine, Part II.
In summary, we did not take the steps to discourage Putin from invading Ukraine when those steps were way to take. Even after Russia / Ukraine, Part II started, Biden was timid as far as leading NATO to get active immediately. Even after the Russian invasion, Biden didn’t push NATO EU members to pay their full share of NATO dues.
Now, as 2024 gets underway, continued support of military activities for Ukraine to defeat Russia and thusbrwgain control of their lost territory is, sadly, a pipe dream. Even the OBiden Handler’s administration admits (belatedly, but they’ve finally gotten there) that ‘victory’ will not be Ukraine’s. This is yet the latest bitter foreign policy failure pill for the administration to swallow. The ‘bitter pill’ only gets bigger and more bitter as delays in a negotiated peace gets longer and longer.
One last comment. Russia’s demographic problem is severe. Ukraine’s is even worse. Furthermore, Ukraine’s demographic problem, from the perspective of the scarcity of fighting age men, is exacerbated by the emigration of Ukraine’s fighting age men to just about anywhere outside of the Ukraine.,
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Dec 29, 2023, 8:00 AM
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Long story short, you are in a cult and you support Putin because your cult leader does.
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
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Dec 29, 2023, 8:08 AM
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Got an explanation for this latest of J.Biden’s foreign policy failures?
(Hint: Joe doesn’t come up with foreign policy. Just blame Biden’s handlers for this; it’s not Biden’s fault.)
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Dec 29, 2023, 8:13 AM
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Want to give your examples first?
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
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Dec 29, 2023, 8:32 AM
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I’ll go first. Afghanistan withdrawal. Horrific performance. Why didn’t the Joe Biden Handler’s regime simply issue an executive order on Day 1 to stop the withdrawal until the Biden Handler’s regime could ‘get the withdrawl’ right?
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Dec 29, 2023, 8:34 AM
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Afghanistan withdrawal was a blunder. The vast majority of people agree. Now what do you have?
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 2, 2024, 12:41 PM
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Biden admin (just like Obama admin)attempting to cozy up to Iran and simultaneously distance the USA from Saudi Arabia.
Consequently, OBiden’s handlers have driven S.Arabia away from the USA and towards Russia and P.R.China.
What did the OBiden Handler’s Admin get in return for blowing kisses to Iran and blowing farts to S.Arabia?
We got the Iran sponsored Hamas attack on Israel.
Another foreign policy ‘achievement’ by the OBiden regime.
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 2, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Executive order by Biden to stop the entire thing.
Biden is the king of executive orders, but only those which harm America.
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 4, 2024, 7:48 PM
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We should have stayed in Afghanistan? For what purpose?
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 4, 2024, 7:49 PM
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For what purpose?
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What are the purposes of all the bases in Syria, Iraq, etc...? Did the CIA
Jan 4, 2024, 9:27 PM
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get out of the heroin business in Afghanistan when fentanyl cut the manufacturing costs to almost zilch?
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 2, 2024, 1:27 AM
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Why? Because Trump had already withdrawn most of the troops necessary to maintain any sort of control over the remaining areas not held by the Taliban. The deal Trump made with the Taliban was that we would withdraw all troops, and in exchange they would stop attacking our remaining troops. Remember when Trump wanted to bring the Taliban to Camp David, but the sane people stopped him?
Trump bragged in a speech in 2021 that he had left Biden in a position where he had to complete the troop withdrawal. Google it, but don’t forget to flush this time. Trump had agreed to a deadline. If we broke that deal, the Taliban would have ramped up attacks.
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
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Jan 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
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#### poor excuse.
Biden could have immediately implemented an executive order to stop the ‘Trump debacle / Afghanistan withdrawl’ and to redeploy military assets to stabilize the situation in Afghanistan.
After all, as VP for 8 years under Obama, and steeped in foreign policy experience (as evidenced by his and Hunter’s intensive activities in the Ukraine), Biden would have already been well versed in the major USA foreign policy activities … including how and what we were doing in Afghanistan.
Biden was arguably the most experienced non-president elected politician with access to information about Afghanistan (from his 8 years as VP and his pre-VP years in the Senate since the start of hostilities in Afghanistan since 9-11). How on earth could Biden have been so clueless about how to take quick, meaningfully positive action to fix the Afghanistan withdrawl?
I’ll answer for you. Biden and his handlers (same people who handled Obama) are foreign policy idiots.
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Re: J.Bidens handlers & Dem party lemmings: Agents of Putin
Jan 2, 2024, 10:30 PM
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It’s long been clear you are an idiot, so this is nothing new. There was NO public support for continuing operations in Afghanistan. ZERO. NONE.
So follow the idiot advice, ramp up troops and take a lot of unnecessary casualties. You’d be one of the first complaining if that choice was made. But this time you would actually be right.
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