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110%er [6781]
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The Libertarian perspective on the religious debate.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:19 AM
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This is Crump and BMeists board. Any conversation being had is on their property. They own the ban hammer. If they don't like it then its gone. What we think is appropriate or inappropriate to discuss on their property is irrelevant. Its their call.
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Rock Defender [54]
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take your anarchy elsewhere.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:25 AM
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Legend [19640]
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^^has no clue what libertarianism is.....***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:26 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Libertarianism is for people who want free love, free drugs
Sep 5, 2012, 9:27 AM
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and no social responsibility.
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Legend [19640]
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^^Just proved he has no clue what libertarianism is***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:31 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I've studied it extensively. And that is all that philosophy
Sep 5, 2012, 9:32 AM
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is. Every Libertarian I know is a pot-smoking hippie that distrusts the government because he thinks the FBI is going to break down the door to his mother's basement and raid his stash.
PROVE ME WRONG.
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You posted 'FBI'. NSA servers just tagged it for the record.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:35 AM
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Re: I've studied it extensively. And that is all that philosophy
Sep 5, 2012, 9:38 AM
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Obvious troll. There are plenty of valid arguments against libertarianism, and this isn't one of them. This guy is just a moron looking to get a rise out of people. Clearly hasn't studied anything "extensively" by any means.
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Rock Defender [54]
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because they want to be free to have sex with prostitutes
Sep 5, 2012, 9:37 AM
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and smoke the reefer.
Here is what a Libertarian believes:
- War is evil because it, like, is all angry and violent, man.
- If it's green, smoke it. Anywhere. Anytime. CONSTITUTION!
- What I do in my bedroom is nobody's business because I'm a dirty-mofo
- Open the borders so I can get cheaper tacos since I can't get a raise at Gamestop
- [angry fapping session to Ron Paul speech]
- MORE DRUGS
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Legend [19640]
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Re: because they want to be free to have sex with prostitutes
Sep 5, 2012, 9:41 AM
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There's a big difference in wanting TO DO those things things and wanting people TO HAVE the liberty to make those CHOICES. Just because you condone liberty doesn't mean you condone the choice.
Take the first admendment for example. The purpose of the first amendment is to be able to say controversial things. Just because you believe in one's right to say certain things doesn't mean you condone what they say.
It's the same thing with prostitution or drugs or gambling or anything else people might not like. Libertarians want bad choices to be legalized and allow people to face the consequences of their own actions instead of having to pay out of their own pocket in taxes to shelter them in jails and feed them. Doesn't mean they condone their choice.
And this is exactly why you haven't got a freakin' clue of what you are talking about.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Look at this anarchist nonsense:
Sep 5, 2012, 9:46 AM
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Basically, this clown is saying America should let the auto-industry DIE.
http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/logic-behind-auto-bailout-insanity
Logic Behind Auto Bailout: 'Insanity'
Says only hope for the long-term viability of automakers is bankruptcy and restructuring
The nation's largest third-party is calling for Congress to strike down a measure backed by the White House that would risk at least $15 billion of taxpayer dollars to bail-out the American automotive industry.
"It's insanity," says Libertarian Party spokesperson Andrew Davis. "It's insane that we keep going back to the taxpayers to bail-out struggling corporations who, for lack of good management and sound business practices, have become unprofitable. Who in Congress is standing up for the taxpayers? Where are the Republicans, who claim they stand for the free market? Where are the Democrats, who claim they oppose corporate welfare?"
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Re: Look at this anarchist nonsense:
Sep 5, 2012, 9:48 AM
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You've got to be missing my meter here. If you're not being sarcastic then you just made a great argument for libertarian economics and don't even know it.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Wait. So you're saying you AGREE with this Andrew Davis
Sep 5, 2012, 9:49 AM
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wack-job?
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He sounds like the kind of ######
Sep 5, 2012, 9:53 AM
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Who would raffle off an assault rifle on the steps of a southern university's library. All in the name of 'freedom'
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Rock Defender [54]
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If I was that kid I'd shoot myself.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:55 AM
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Re: Wait. So you're saying you AGREE with this Andrew Davis
Sep 5, 2012, 9:54 AM
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Do I agree that companies who made bad choices should not be bailed out with tax payer dollars which go to fat cats and politicians and run up inflation? No I don't believe they should be bailed out....it's like cracking half the eggs in a carton and paying a premium for the carton....
You let the bad assets die and sell of the good assets that remain and let the company go about the normal process allowed for failing businesses. The answer isn't to throw the consequences of bad choices on the tax payer while politicians and CEO's benefit from the cash flow.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Maybe you and Davis should make out.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:56 AM
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Since you both think people should have the freedom to do that regardless of its impact on traditional values in this country.
You know, I bet he would let you.
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CU Guru [1357]
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Gay marriage and weed
Sep 5, 2012, 9:58 AM
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2 things that, if you personally choose not to partake in, have 0 impact on your day-to-day functioning.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Says a Libertarian who ignores his social responsibility to
Sep 5, 2012, 10:05 AM
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society.
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Re: Says a Libertarian who ignores his social responsibility to
Sep 5, 2012, 10:08 AM
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I voted for McCain in 2008, thank you very much. Social responsibility = accomplished.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I voted for Kane.***
Sep 5, 2012, 10:21 AM
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Re: Says a Libertarian who ignores his social responsibility to
Sep 5, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Social responsibility to society =Socialism
Personal responsibility to bear the consequences of your actions = Americanism
the best evidence that homosexuality and prostitution and being given to drugs is a person who has lived there full life pursuing them. then it is evident to all the down falls of living in a way we were not created to live. there example is the best tool to teach your children why God is looking out for us with his rules and not just trying to be man in charge on a power trip.
King Solomon is a prime example. We gain wisdom from the choices of others good or bad. but in a nanny state we are not allowed to fail and learn.
People who want to restrict liberty don't believe their god will be proved right in the end and think they have to do his job all the time.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I'm tired of trolling.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
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btw, check your t-mail.
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110%er [6781]
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Well played. Sorry for calling you a communist.
Sep 5, 2012, 11:05 AM
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I fall for that Socrates Jesus thing every time. lol. I looked you up on facebook btw.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Some days you just have to troll.***
Sep 5, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Re: Look at this anarchist nonsense:
Sep 5, 2012, 9:49 AM
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"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."
-einstein
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110%er [6781]
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I'm a pastor and don't do any of those things. I will teach
Sep 5, 2012, 9:50 AM
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the soul dangers of them all. but don't i presume that i can protect anyone from themselves or infringe on their liberties in any way. Just because its wrong doesn't mean it should be illegal. we tried that once. In all cases the person in power determines morality then determines law then restricts freedom. anti god governments like communists and nazis and God states like pre revolution europe or the holy roman empire. Thats why we made America different. Liberty means you do what you want as long as its non aggressive and the only rule is you bear ALL of the responsibility for your actions. be careful what liberty you restrict because when those people get in power they will come after you.
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110%er [6781]
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Ha. Funny i thought you were kidding with the above post.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:37 AM
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actually libertarians live by the rules of private property and limited government. aka the founders of our country. Anarchists balk at libertarians and call us min-archists.
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Re: Ha. Funny i thought you were kidding with the above post.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:40 AM
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what does this guy believe?
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Re: Ha. Funny i thought you were kidding with the above post.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:44 AM
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That's def. a democrat....
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Rock Defender [54]
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Actually, it's a very prominent Libertarian activist.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:45 AM
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Re: Actually, it's a very prominent Libertarian activist.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:50 AM
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lol....Maybe we should have a contest of how many pics we can find of men dressed up in womens clothing for each party and see who can find the most....
There's at least 1 or 2 demos and repubs caught in drag each year....you're not helping your argument.....
^^and that guy does not represent libertarians just like weiner doesn't represent all of the dems and so forth....
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Actually, it's a very prominent Libertarian activist.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:54 AM
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what about this flamer and his Bob Barr shirt?
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Re: Actually, it's a very prominent Libertarian activist.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:59 AM
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Saying Bob Barr is a libertarian is like saying Steve Spurrier is a Clemson Tiger.
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Rock Defender [54]
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That's a pretty unfair criticism.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:03 AM
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The bias against Barr had nothing to do with what he did after he joined the party, but what he did before -- as if nobody could possibly see the light. If it were up to most LP die-hards, if you aren't born a Libertarian, you can't join the club. That's why the LP will always struggle with growth.
They eat their own.
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Re: That's a pretty unfair criticism.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:28 AM
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No it's what he did before and after. A neocon before joining and a neocon after joining, proven by his endorsement of romney....
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Rock Defender [54]
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Bob was a tried-and-true Libertarian for all the years that
Sep 5, 2012, 10:40 AM
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he was in the LP, and he made tremendous sacrifices (professionally and personally) to defend and further the party. But, the die-hards never trusted him (they have a point, but, seriously -- if Libertarianism is so right, why can't the most neocon of the neocons see the light). So, what motivation did Bob have to hang around?
His endorsement of Romney was basically a resignation letter from the LP, and his re-entry into the GOP machine.
Regardless, I know Bob to be a great, true and genuine small-"L" libertarian.
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Re: Bob was a tried-and-true Libertarian for all the years that
Sep 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
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LMAO the "years?" He joined in 2006. He spent 6 years in the libertarian party and ducked and dodged questions pertaining to his neocon beliefs....he's always been a neocon. He simply tried to jump on the youth bandwagon to get elected and it didn't work because he couldn't get the newly formed (and at that time, libertarian) tea party vote because he was a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Yeah. That's not true at all.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:51 AM
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He didn't duck and dodge any questions about what he believed. He said many times that he was wrong, and called for the repeal of DOMA (legislation he wrote) long before Obama did. But, none of his answers were ever good enough. Either a) he was lying, and just trying to infiltrate the party, or b) he wasn't a purist like the LP Radicals. Pick up his book, Lessons in Liberty, and give it a read (also, admire the wonderful front cover artwork that ot designed).
But, whatever man. Bob wasn't a perfect libertarian. He was flawed, but among tens of thousands of other flawed libertarians. Heck, a year before I went to work for them I was leading an anti-gay marriage protest. But, I changed the error of my ways.
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So what if a SCar fan came to power and banned
Sep 5, 2012, 9:58 AM
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all Clemson clothes? would you protest? and in doing so the people of pro Clemson regulation message boards would post a picture of you and laugh.
But to address some other posts you made i didn't realize you were communist. so all your posts now make sense. so to conclude this argument. I'm for America and for liberty. i like my Christian liberty and if the free exercise of religion means i have to live with a few fruit nuts then i can handle it. i don't believe communism is right but its your right to believe what you want.
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sarcasm is a tool of jaded anarchist elitist nazis.***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:48 AM
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Thanks
Sep 5, 2012, 9:56 AM
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I was looking for a name for my band.
That'll fit well
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The Libertarian perspective
Sep 5, 2012, 9:27 AM
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does this mean you hail from Liberty?
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I thought a Libertarian took care of books! lol***
Sep 5, 2012, 9:36 AM
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No, he's an imposter
Sep 5, 2012, 10:53 AM
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He actually lives a couple of miles outside Walhalla.
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Re: The Libertarian perspective on the religious debate.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:50 AM
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I think when you give money to a site you gain the right to discuss whatever you want. If they want to rule with an iron fist cancel the money thing and let everyone have the same priveliges without paying for it. If you say you can't discuss this because it offends this group then what is the point of having a board? You want everyone to sit around and agree with each other on everything? I think not.
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Boy, I will hate to see what a bye week is like around here***
Sep 5, 2012, 10:59 AM
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We'll bash the S&C program and sign up with the Big 12...
Sep 5, 2012, 11:01 AM
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ruin our pulse rates and call each other fhags and stuff.
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