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To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is
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To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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Feb 20, 2025, 1:11 PM
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extremely happy with the current state of Clemson basketball. The only issues would be these:

1. We still have a tendency to lose a game each year that we should not. (Ga. Tech. at home this year would be an example).

2. JK fatigue. If you have noticed there are some posters that TD everything JK posts good or bad. Since he/she/it never hesitates to badmouth Dabo even in basketball posts. This has long since driven some to extreme levels of annoyance. So don't confuse annoyance with JK as being anti CU basketball. They are not the same thing.

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As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things

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Feb 20, 2025, 1:26 PM
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that drive me crazy. Brad Brownell coached teams have a tendency to repeat several of them, over and over and over again.

1) Dribble the shot clock away, then either launch a desperation shot, or don't even get one off.

2) Pass up wide open mid range jump shots to try and drive all the way to the basket, usually resulting in a steal, throwaway, or much less often, a trip to the foul line or a made shot. Our current lineup, and most past ones, are not talented enough ball handlers to drive into traffic without having the ball stripped away.

3) Under pressure, BB coached teams have a tendency to have an incredibly tough time getting the ball inbounds when the other team has called a timeout and have time to set up a defense. See other schools run set formation plays that make it look easy.

4) BB will call a timeout, use up an entire black marker scribbling all over his whiteboard, and the play that results is just a clearout and hope Chase Hunter can save our bacon yet again. If that is always going to be the play, just save the ink?

5) POOR offensive rebounding. This is another BB coached team staple. Frustrating as Heyall watching the opposition get two, three, or MORE shot attempts per possession, while we are generally one and done.

THIS years team has overachieved in spite of STILL doing most, if not all of the things on this list at some point in just about every game. Due to this, we have been in some nail biters that should have, and COULD have been easy double digit wins. Which brings me to the final thing on the list.

6) Long scoring droughts. This is also a staple of BB coached teams. Due to this, even large double digit leads early in first or second halves are never safe. We are always going to let the other team back in it, due to a long scoring drought. Do some pick and rolls, Harlem Globetrotter weaves, SOMETHING to break up these long scoreless streaks. ANY made basket during one of those runs will demoralize the other team.

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Re: As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:47 PM
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So 76er, you could saved time and energy and just said you do not like Coach Brownell and do not care about Clemson basketball. The points you tried to make apply to every team in basketball because there are no secret solutions to the game. Go Tigers!

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Re: As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things

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Feb 20, 2025, 4:17 PM
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Valley you could save time by admitting you are a coot.

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Re: As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things

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Feb 20, 2025, 10:46 PM [ in reply to As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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I agree 100%. Even though the past few years have been better that 15 year track record is hard to erase!

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Countdown til Judge Keller fires up her moms laptop

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:15 AM [ in reply to As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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You’ve triggered the most annoying person on this platform but I do agree with some of your points. Bottom line though many teams would love to be as good as we are and we have Brad to thank.

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LOL, I did not rate a reply from Judge himself, only one of his SCOK Army,

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Feb 21, 2025, 8:14 AM
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Valley Boy. I wondered whether it would be him or ClemsonMountainears, I knew it had to trigger one or more of them. They all live in Judge's head.

Yes, Valley Judge, all teams at times exhibit the behaviors that you as Captain Brownlee Obvious pointed out. MY point is, well coached teams don't do it nearly as often, or systemically, as Brad Brownlee coached teams do. Hide and watch our games, and count the times we make a play that adds to each category, then watch some of the highly ranked teams and compare. Dare you.

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:29 AM [ in reply to As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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to add . . . POOR rebounding period. Defensive and offensive. Characterized by lacking rebounding fundamentals. This is what gets in my crawl. So as good as we do and I'm happy overall, we could be better. And Brad will never get us there because he obviously doesn't teach or require this.

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Feb 22, 2025, 10:09 AM
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Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Games Offense Defense Total
Clemson 26 — 289 636 997
Opponents 26 — 276 566 916

We are winning the boards at both ends.

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Feb 22, 2025, 10:10 AM [ in reply to Re: As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Games Offense Defense Total
Clemson 26 — 289 636 997
Opponents 26 — 276 566 916

We are winning the boards at both ends.

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Feb 21, 2025, 7:23 AM [ in reply to As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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Wow what a whiner....don't watch then!!!

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Clemson has posted 11 double digits victories in the ACC this season


Feb 21, 2025, 9:18 AM [ in reply to As a BASKETBALL fan and a CLEMSON BASKETBALL fan, there are certain things ]
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Pay attention John Wooden. And the "loses a game they should not lose" is weak as cat pee. Look around college basketball. Everybody does it. Have you checked out UConn? Kansas? You need to watch more basketball. You need to watch more Clemson basketball.

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You, and the rest of JK's Minion Army seem to believe that Clemson Basketball

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Feb 21, 2025, 10:43 AM
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would cease to exist if Brad Brownell were not our coach. The blind devotion is truly staggering. I gave him over ten years of being on his bandwagon to get it done, before I exited. And by "it" I mean, quite simply, win an ACC Championship. Because that would be a next step that a Clemson basketball coach has never accomplished, other than the 1990 "regular season" championship, which does not come with an automatic NCAA Tournament berth. STILL waiting on that first one, even though the quality of ACC basketball has fallen off dramatically in the past two or three years, as readily seen in the polls and national perception. Maybe he finally gets it done this year, but you will excuse me if I do not hold my breath waiting on it.

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Feb 22, 2025, 9:45 AM
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CBB is doing a great job though. That's what should be talked about.

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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Feb 20, 2025, 1:29 PM
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certainly happy with this season and trying to be optimistic about where the program is headed. That doesn't mean I'll ignore it when JK posts misinformation as a part of his propaganda machine. Unfortunately, he has groupies (and not a one of them is a scock) that pile on every time his narrative is challenged.

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:58 PM
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There's a couple of JK throaters that switch between ids without much thought.

They aren't even trying to hide it.

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I've only been here a short time

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Feb 20, 2025, 1:45 PM
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but I have noticed many who go out of their way to bring up JK. It's usually not a kind word for JK. I was always told you don't have to like everyone and that you wouldn't be liked by everyone. Hang with the people you do like and ignore the ones you don't-just leave them alone. Why all the effort to go after JK? Is it just another ill of social media? Maybe someone can enlighten me....

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Re: I've only been here a short time

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Feb 20, 2025, 1:54 PM
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Let's see, he's most notable as an ardent defender of Brad Brownell. But, he's also known for making racist comments (black people aren't smart enough to coach), misogynistic comments, attacking Clemson fans and their traditions, openly mocked Brian Bresee after the passing of his sister, attacks the ability and character of Dabo Swinney, and puts anyone that calls him out on ignore. If you were going to speak ill of anyone on a Clemson message board I don't know that you could find any worse.

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Re: I've only been here a short time

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:18 PM
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viztiz said:

Let's see, he's most notable as an ardent defender of Brad Brownell. But, he's also known for making racist comments (black people aren't smart enough to coach), misogynistic comments, attacking Clemson fans and their traditions, openly mocked Brian Bresee after the passing of his sister, attacks the ability and character of Dabo Swinney, and puts anyone that calls him out on ignore. If you were going to speak ill of anyone on a Clemson message board I don't know that you could find any worse.




This.

Very happy about finally going to two straight NCAATs and where the program is going. But JK is always falsifying his argument to the hilt to prove Coach Brownell should be considered the best coach ever in College Basketball.

Never go for JK's argument again that Clemson Basketball Program is at the very bottom of the ACC as far as budget and revenue.

That is one of the reasons why Coach Brownell has improved the program. It is currently moving up.

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You are being misleading about our basketball history.

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Feb 20, 2025, 9:24 PM
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We are historically the worst ACC basketball program, and our support for basketball has been near the bottom of the conference for decades. That seems to be improving some under Neff, which is a huge part of our success recently, but we still fund basketball way less than many other ACC schools.

I don’t think Brad is the best coach ever, but I do think he is an excellent coach. It’s too bad that many people here, including you, haven’t been able to see that. But hey, at least you don’t post numerous threads anymore about coaches you want to hire after Brad is fired.

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Re: You are being misleading about our basketball history.

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Feb 21, 2025, 7:36 AM
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We weren’t “the worst” once the conference expanded to 9 teams, much less 12, and its and absurdity now that it is an 18 team conference. This is is a choice you make to ridicule Clemson.

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Would it make you feel better if I said that we were near the bottom

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Feb 21, 2025, 8:01 AM
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of the conference since these last couple of expansions in terms of history? LOL.

Who in the ACC do you feel has a worse basketball history than we do? Certainly not more recent edition, such as Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, and Boston College.

The funding numbers have been reviewed here numerous times and we have consistently been toward the bottom of the conference.

Regardless, the point still stands. We are a football school in a basketball conference, and have not and currently do not devote nearly the resourcesto our basketball program that many other conferences do.

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Re: You are being misleading about our basketball history.

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Feb 21, 2025, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Re: You are being misleading about our basketball history. ]
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You might be getting the double team up again but it’s all in fun 🤩. Don’t give them/they/him your joy, especially the Clemson fan guilt trip.

It’s a gang up to challenge your right and opinion, in my opinion.


It’s a great way to keep the clicks coming but it always hurts the enthusiasm and joy of the fans looking to give their view in what they believe is best for Clemson.

It can damage those coming here to enjoy our best run in basketball in a long time, at the expense of the cuts on our incredible football program/coach.

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
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Feb 20, 2025, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Re: I've only been here a short time ]
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Which is why he went on mute.

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Re: I've only been here a short time

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Feb 20, 2025, 4:55 PM [ in reply to Re: I've only been here a short time ]
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Thank you for educating me, I didn't know all of that. I was curious...now I know.

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Dont believe viz, read my posts and judge for yourself.***

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Re: Dont believe viz, read my posts and judge for yourself.***

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Feb 21, 2025, 7:34 AM
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It's the least I can do, judge Judge for myself...and I live by the lessons taught to me by my parents. I just noticed a lot of the attention towards you and I wanted to know. I still think social media makes it easier for people to be negative towards others. Guess there's pros and cons to it like everything else in life.

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You are lying.

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Feb 20, 2025, 9:18 PM [ in reply to Re: I've only been here a short time ]
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I don’t care if you like me, nor do I care if you agree with me, but personally attacking me and making up stuff about me is uncalled for.

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Feb 20, 2025, 10:34 PM
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Literally every word is true.

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Re: You are lying.

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Feb 21, 2025, 6:43 AM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-thought-this-was-going-to-be-a-patrick-ewing-post.***-31259476





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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Ew.

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Re: You are lying.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Yes, proof of JK's dyslexia or a mere typo?...you can clearly see the


Feb 21, 2025, 7:55 AM
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the addition of the letter "r" in Keller's feeble attempt
to spell the 3 letter word 'g a y'.

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Re: You are lying.

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Re: You are lying.

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Feb 21, 2025, 7:40 AM
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Clemson mountaineers® Cobbox® Allowat CM Shack®

This is what you have time and again chosen to rally behind.

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Feb 21, 2025, 8:12 AM
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Where have I rallied behind JK outside of arguing with you when you reply to me?

Have I liked some of JK’s posts in the past, sure. But I have also challenged him from time to time too.

You’re kinda obsessed, aren’t you?

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Feb 21, 2025, 8:56 AM
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You have jumped into threads where I am responding to him and engaged me both directly and indirectly. The entire history of our interaction on this site is predicated on your inability to leave it alone when I argue with him. That’s your guy. Own it.

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Feb 21, 2025, 9:53 AM
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And that means I support him? Nice try, predictable. Maybe I just think your takes are trash.

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Feb 21, 2025, 11:26 AM
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Oh but the guy who makes racial jokes and mocks a player’s dead sister has the right takes. Good to know. Like I said own. And thanks for admitting I was right. Mighty big of you.

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Feb 21, 2025, 11:51 AM
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Did I say he had the right take or are you lying?

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:00 PM [ in reply to Re: You are lying. ]
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You are a pathetic loser for even saying I would support that sort thing. If I thumbs up a post, what's the big deal? I certainly don't agree with that or ripping on our players. You apparently you are good with those type of postings.

I like our players. Go Tigers!

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:15 PM
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Ha re-reading this old post makes me chuckle. How dare someone suggest Ian play the 4 spot. Thanks for the laughs olemike. And the thumbs up AH.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:32 PM
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Holy moly. I’ve emotionally broke you. Hit the bench bud.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:35 PM
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You ain't pulling me out azzhat.

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That seems like a no no. Hope mods don’t spot it - you might get a talking to. You’re an irl angry computer guy meme right now. It would be sad if wasn’t so hysterical. You’ve spent a couple years trolling me as the above it all, tell like it is guy and now you’ve completely fallen apart. What a waste of a 30 year old scock.

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Feb 21, 2025, 1:01 PM
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LOL! You are trash.

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:02 PM [ in reply to Re: You are lying. ]
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Thanks for the reminder of my amazing take.

If we are "rallying" behind JK, then he certainly rallies around ole mike

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:10 PM
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Mountaineers, gotta give major props for calling your shot. Chef is the bomb! Nobody would support that garbage now.

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Feb 21, 2025, 9:32 PM
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Still laughing at ole mike's terrible take crapping on the chef, and viztiz liking the post.

What a hypocrite

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You are a stereotypical triggered and overly dramatic Clemson football fan.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:28 PM [ in reply to Re: You are lying. ]
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I feel sorry for you.

If you were a paying TNet member, you could put me on ignore so you wouldn't have to read my posts ever again. Since that isn't an option, you should learn to not click on my posts. That would be my recommendation since my posts seem to bother you so much.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:31 PM
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So the stereotype of a Clemson fan is easily triggered and overly dramatic? Gee, I wonder why it seems like you aren’t actually a fan?

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Yes, we have earned a reputation as a fan base for being easily offended.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:36 PM
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A national reporter says something critical about our football program? They are accused by multiple people of having an anti-Clemson agenda.

An analyst says that Dabo needs to use the portal? They are just furthering the ESPN agenda to pump up the SEC and degrade the ACC.

Someone pronounces Clemson with a Z? They are evil.

Amazingly, I have seen people here - numerous times - suggest that criticism of Clemson is due things such as having a Christian coach and having a largely conservative fan base.

We are to the point that any sentiment that isn't glowing about Clemson football, even when it is from our own fans, is attacked aggressively and in large numbers.

This behavior has been noted by plenty of people outside our fan base, including a video by a popular college football analyst on YouTube just this week. You seem to be part of that group that gives our fan base at large a bad name.

I would love to see us develop thicker skin as a fan base. We have a lot to be proud of, and our self-esteem shouldn't rely on the approval of others.

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Those are some very specific, minor things to claim they make the stereotype Clemson. I think you’re projecting because you don’t like Clemson fans. It’s really not worth arguing at this point it’s so evident.

Every college team message board has people who react the ways you are describing so that doesn’t make it the stereotype at Clemson. I’ve never seen someone called “evil” because of saying Clemson with a Z. I’ve heard a few people complain it. But far less than people who complain about NFL players listing their high school or elementary school during player introductions. And that is also something that is complained about by some small segment of every fan base.

Dabo had a complaint filed against him by the Freedom From Religion Foundation and his baptism of Deandre Hopkins sparked a fair amount of protest. So, the anti-Christian thing, while probably overblown, was far from a conspiracy theory.

“We are to the point that any sentiment that isn't glowing about Clemson football, even when it is from our own fans, is attacked aggressively and in large numbers.” This is just a straight up straw man argument.

A popular YouTube football analyst said something negative? Again, something that is happening to every major program in college football. Not part of a Clemson stereotype.

Develop thicker skin? You’ve been spewing venom at Clemson for years , not because anyone “hates” Brownell, because you can’t stand to have any aspect of your mostly fictional narrative challenged.

But, seriously, thanks for replying. It allows everyone to see how deeply insincere you are.

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You don't understand.

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:12 PM
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I don't really care if you or anyone else dislikes Brownell or thinks he is a bad coach. I will happily debate the points I disagree with, but I absolutely support your right to your opinion and I certainly don't take it personally.

In contrast, questioning Dabo or the football program around here is tantamount to heresy. Some of you seem to take it as an attack on your character if someone questions Dabo. It's weird, and it is cult-like.

I like Dabo a lot, and think he is a great coach, but I have questioned him a lot lately. I feel that my disagreement with him is appropriate given the tremendous resources he has and the fact that he has fallen well short of expectations. Interestingly, a lot of the criticisms I and others here have had of him have been very reasonable, and proven to be valid, based on our recent results as well as the changes you've seen Dabo make recently. He seems to finally be recognizing his mistakes, which is ultimately a good thing for Clemson football.

I am proud to be a Clemson fan. I network with people daily who are fans of other teams, and they routinely express a positive view of Clemson fans as kind people who support their team well. That's the overall perception. However, when you dig deeper, especially on the internet, you will see that we have become known as a fan base that is also very sensitive to criticism about football. There is a reason why people like Finebaum say what they do. The high level of engagement here on TNet with regard to people like Finebaum shows you just how accurate the butthurt reputation is.

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Re: You don't understand.

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Feb 22, 2025, 9:43 AM
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Speaking of butthurt, I just responded to another of your posts on another thread. I pointed out how you called me disrespectful for a completely benign post. And before this I had clearly told you I’ve been critical of Dabo. I simply asked you to be consistent in regards to Brownell and Dabo.

Now THAT is some butthurt

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Re: Yes, we have earned a reputation as a fan base for being easily offended.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:59 PM [ in reply to Yes, we have earned a reputation as a fan base for being easily offended. ]
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This behavior has been noted by plenty of people outside our fan base, including a video by a popular college football analyst on YouTube just this week. You seem to be part of that group that gives our fan base at large a bad name.



Yet just 12 min later you said



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That is correct, I read the article but did not watch the video.

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:16 PM
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It's cute how you really thought you busted me or something.

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Re: Yes, we have earned a reputation as a fan base for being easily offended.


Feb 21, 2025, 4:03 PM [ in reply to Yes, we have earned a reputation as a fan base for being easily offended. ]
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Doubling down on the most hypocritical post ever on the interwebs. Well done, troll.

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Re: You are lying.


Feb 21, 2025, 9:35 AM [ in reply to Re: You are lying. ]
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You missed at least one & maybe two! It’s all in fun and keeps those clicks coming too.

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!
Let’s Go Tigers!


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Feb 21, 2025, 1:46 PM [ in reply to Re: You are lying. ]
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Why are you so obsessed with me? Am i JKs scok or am i rallying behind him? Which is it?

Your ridiculous accusations get confusing.

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Re: You are lying.

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Re: You are lying.

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Feb 21, 2025, 7:33 AM [ in reply to You are lying. ]
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You’re whining about people attacking you but just yesterday you took shots at my mother.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. This place has mentally broken you, I hope one day you recognize that

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LMAO!***

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The negative fixation he has on DABO..

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:21 PM [ in reply to I've only been here a short time ]
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can get very irritating at times and then there's his well documented association(membership) with the predatorily depraved NAMBLA group..I guess its en vogue to embrace inclusivity and be understanding of others with opposing likes and dislikes than our own...but...can't do it.. not in the case of that sick, sorry s o b(JK)..maybe I'm too rigid but NO sir..his NAMBLA affiliation is a deal breaker for me!

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Re: The negative fixation he has on DABO..

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Feb 20, 2025, 8:35 PM
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JK is a member of the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
Nothing wrong with that, but yeah his Dabo bashing is annoying

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The Toxic T Netters go after JK

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Feb 21, 2025, 9:19 AM [ in reply to I've only been here a short time ]
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Because they hate Clemson basketball and want to see it fail. They do not want to spend money on basketball that could be spent on more football jock straps.

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It's generally more than one such game each year.***

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


It was two this year, are you not happy with how the season is going?***

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At no point did I even remotely imply that.***

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


It's basketball, it's unrealistic to think we're going undefeated every season,


Feb 21, 2025, 12:18 AM
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particularly when nobody else has done it since the 70s

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An unrealistic expectation was not the point.***

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Re: An unrealistic expectation was not the point.***


Feb 21, 2025, 4:08 PM
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But it’s not unrealistic to expect an undefeated football team every year because, you know, Dabo’s salary. Anything less is underachieving.

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Where did I say either of these things?***


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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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revmarkg® said:

extremely happy with the current state of Clemson basketball. The only issues would be these:

1. We still have a tendency to lose a game each year that we should not. (Ga. Tech. at home this year would be an example).

2. JK fatigue. If you have noticed there are some posters that TD everything JK posts good or bad. Since he/she/it never hesitates to badmouth Dabo even in basketball posts. This has long since driven some to extreme levels of annoyance. So don't confuse annoyance with JK as being anti CU basketball. They are not the same thing.




If there was only a name to use for losing a game where most expected a win. Oh yeah, it's called an upset and happens to 99.9% of all teams in every single sport, every single season. There is no evidence it happens to a CBB coached team any more or less than other teams.

As for JK, he simply mirrors what the LF gives so why do his posts upset you but not those equally unfair posts by the fringe? You could also put him on ignore but many on here live for complaining about him.

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is


Feb 21, 2025, 8:39 AM
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Its other people's fault for his behavior. That totally makes sense.

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is


Feb 21, 2025, 9:33 AM
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Its other people's fault for his behavior. That totally makes sense.




Reading comprehension is hard for some so let me explain. It is reasonable to not like JKs trolling but unreasonable that you bash him but accept the same behavior from the LF. I believe the term is double standard or selective outrage based on your personal viewpoint.

Hope this helps!

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Very happy with Clemson basketball this year

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:25 PM
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They're putting together a great season. Having followed for so long, though - I just keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Like you said, we tend to lose games we shouldn't lose - especially in the conference or NCAA tourneys. If CBB can get some consistency going - which seems to be one of the things his teams struggle with - then we can really make some waves.

I don't mind JK. Really couldn't care less. Part of the Clemson family, as far as I'm concerned. I've got a big family - we don't all agree all the time and there are one or two who, in one way or another, kind of live on the fringes relatively to the others. Just part of life and any kind of family.

Go Tigers!

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I would say three consecutive 20-win seasons

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Feb 21, 2025, 9:21 AM
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is consistent. The Golden Era of Clemson basketball and the Lunatic Fringe continues to #####.

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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Feb 20, 2025, 2:57 PM
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As for 1) every team has that "not our day" game in basketball.

One of Shyatt's teams beat #1 UNC at Clemson.

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Every team loses a game they shouldn't every year...1976 was the last year a

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team won all their games...So it basically boils down to Keller...Some of y'all can admit it, some can't

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CBB's history of inexplicable head scratching type losses...

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Feb 20, 2025, 3:12 PM
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goes beyond just one game each year. So far this year there have been two. Hopefully that number doesn't increase.

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Did you see the #4 team in the country get blown out last night?***

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I'm not saying it doesn't happen...

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but it has been a far too frequent occurrence under CBB.

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They probably need to fire their coach too

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;)

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Re: Every team loses a game they shouldn't every year...1976 was the last year a

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Feb 20, 2025, 4:05 PM [ in reply to Every team loses a game they shouldn't every year...1976 was the last year a ]
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This is a logical fallacy known as a strawman argument.

Straw man: Distorting an opponent's argument to make it easier to refute

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Sure thing Blufton***

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Yes we are all familiar with logical fallacies.

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Every team loses a game they shouldn't every year...1976 was the last year a ]
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You commit them regularly, for example, your ad hominem attacks against me.

The OP said that we lose games every year we should not. You have been presented with evidence to suggest that this is not a problem, as every team in major college basketball dating back to the mid 70s has lost games it shouldn't have.

That's like complaining about missing shots, or going on a scoring drought. They happen to everyone, and are not unique to Clemson basketball.

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Right...


Feb 21, 2025, 1:13 PM
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because everyone loses to Morehead State as a double digit favorite at home or to a God-awful Louisville team with only one other conference win all season.

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No everyone doesn't lose to those teams.

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Feb 21, 2025, 2:18 PM
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Everyone also doesn't routinely beat teams that have better funding and more talent, including making deep NCAA Tournament runs to the Elite Eight.

On balance, our program does great. It's too bad more people here can't acknowledge that.

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Re: No everyone doesn't lose to those teams.


Feb 21, 2025, 11:57 PM
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“ runs to the Elite Eight.” I’m not sure who you are referring to since you chose the plural of run. Let us know since you seem to have wandered off topic.

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Re: Right...


Feb 21, 2025, 4:57 PM [ in reply to Right... ]
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There are plenty examples of 1 seeds losing in the NIT. It was an awful game. Awful games happen sometimes.

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Re: Yes we are all familiar with logical fallacies.

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Feb 21, 2025, 1:27 PM [ in reply to Yes we are all familiar with logical fallacies. ]
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Ohhh the irony

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Re: Yes we are all familiar with logical fallacies.


Feb 22, 2025, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Yes we are all familiar with logical fallacies. ]
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Would you like to cite what you claim is an ad hominem so I can bring the reciepts?

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Feb 21, 2025, 4:14 PM [ in reply to Every team loses a game they shouldn't every year...1976 was the last year a ]
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I fully admit the problem is Keller. I support Clemson basketball completely. Whoever the administration decides should be the coach will get my support. And whoever that coach puts on the floor to play will get my support. Just like football or any other Clemson sports team. There is no way I will believe judge can honestly say the same thing regarding Clemson football. But his idea of support is different than mine so he will claim to be a supporter even when he promotes negativity.

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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Feb 20, 2025, 3:49 PM
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lose a game or two each year

Ga Tech, SCAR

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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To be a true fan you have to be an alumni…which counts out at least half of this board. Just facts🤷‍♂️

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"counts out"? Next time..

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let's go with 'disqualifies'.. you're shaming gd diploma collective around here son...not cool-

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do we need to discuss the definition of alumni?***

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Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is

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Feb 20, 2025, 8:38 PM [ in reply to Re: To be clear, everyone here that is a true Clemson fan is ]
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So those of us who couldn’t afford to go to Clemson but sent our kids there don’t count as fans? That’s a crap thing to say. Wish I could TD you twice.

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To be clearer...


Feb 21, 2025, 8:28 AM
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1. Losing to someone that we shouldn't is common across all of Clemson sports. Heck it's common for 99% of other schools too.

and

2. We could win it all in March Madness, and JK would find a way to troll Dabo in celebration, it's inherent. Either the Troll is actually Brad, Brad's wife, or a paid bot to stir the pot. It's odd that a real person would have that much envy/hate for one coach.

But of course, they would respond with passive aggressiveness with, "I don't hate Dabo, I only want what everyone else wants for Clemson FB"...

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Feb 21, 2025, 10:09 AM
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There’s a number beside the paw logo for every major men’s sport. I think it’s just us and Tennessee who are at the top of athletics currently. (Baseball basketball football) What is there to complain about anymore?

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Feb 21, 2025, 10:16 AM
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Doesn't every basketball team lose a game they were supposed to win?
Go Tigers
I love Clemson basketball but would marry Clemson football. 😉

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The ultimate uneducated BB comment is the "inexplicable losses" thing.


Feb 21, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Literally every team has them. Always. Multiple times. It's not even remotely a legitimate complaint.

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Feb 21, 2025, 11:55 AM
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You’re not wrong. I’ve been one of the loudest fire the Brad voices in the room. The last two seasons have earned him a good bit more time as he seems to have turned the corner kinda like Dabo did. They both learned in the job and had to learn to recruit, win the big games, win the layup games, and not lose to terrible opponents. I want to see Clemson compete for titles in every sport. Tiddlywinks included! Go Tigers!!!

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3. No ACC trophy.


Feb 21, 2025, 11:57 AM
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4. Who is JK

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Feb 21, 2025, 12:02 PM
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Didn’t some football announcers use to have a phrase?



Something like “Clempsoning”

Just a joke folks… Take it with a grain of “Slap ya Mama” seasoning

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Feb 22, 2025, 3:11 AM
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We must explain JK now.... we have Judge Keller and Jedi Kermit. But JK was JK before Jedi Kermit.

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Feb 22, 2025, 8:53 AM
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“ 1. We still have a tendency to lose a game each year that we should not. (Ga. Tech. at home this year would be an example).”

This is the nature of College Basketball.

Please reference the records of all D1 teams playing basketball over the past 50 years.

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