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Orange Elite [5427]
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A word about how outlets cover hurricanes and rainy days.
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Sep 26, 2024, 12:50 PM
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It's incumbent upon journalists to, wherever possible, share all sides of a story, because topics are often multi-faceted and nuanced.
This extends to the weather. Specifically, urban flooding.
The elephant in the room is: Can flooding be caused by historic, climate-change related deluges? Yes. But can it be the result of over-development? Also yes.
To simply set up next to a flooded crick or street and go live with the spectacle is to sensationalize the event.
When it rains a lot in the country, it frikkin' floods fields. This was true 100 years ago.
When it rains a lot in over-developoed areas like Asheville, it frikkin' floods cricks and rivers and roads because tile roofs and vast concrete parking lots don't absorb water, they shed water. And under-sized holding ponds don't always solve the problem. This is a newer phenomenon.
It's important for responsible journalists, producers and editors, to remember such things, and maybe even mention them from time to time.
Thank you for reading this far.
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National Champion [7153]
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Re: A word about how outlets cover hurricanes and rainy days.
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:09 PM
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I don't want this thread to turn into a political climate change debate one way or the other. I will add, when the country was more agrarian farms had proper storm cellars. Now we have way too many trailers in Tornado Alley. We've also allowed development in areas where flood waters could go without flooding homes and businesses. .
Offering prayers to all those affected.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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It's precisely *because of the politicalization of the topic
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:10 PM
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that I made the poast. Journalists should be held to a higher standard. I know I was when I was one. And I covered a lot of weather events.
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Game Changer [1849]
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Re: It's precisely *because of the politicalization of the topic
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:41 PM
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But hasn't that always been the journalist standard? "If it bleeds, it leads". House fires and car wrecks go first.
They'd get a different reaction if they set-up next to a golf course community showing how the ponds at the golf course had overflowed.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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No that's what folks *think the standard is/was.
Sep 26, 2024, 4:27 PM
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Was never the standard in my newsrooms.
Mostly it's the result of having to produce wall-to-wall coverage of every storm that comes spinning up from the Gulf. Every puddle, every flooded river, every flooded street ... is a possible *calamity.
And it's a lousy way to do business. But it sells ads.
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Heisman Winner [83337]
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standards
Sep 26, 2024, 4:33 PM
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News rooms and folks calling themselves experts at anything on the web must constantly produce material in order to get paid.
For example I am an expert at all things football, but having to post everyday as to my expertise would soon reveal me the idiot I am.
These days there are no "standards" in news, there never was.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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My newsroom had standards
Sep 28, 2024, 3:53 PM
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but it was local stuff. I wonder about those national outlets anymore where noone knows who's calling the editorial shots and the pressure's on to deliver ratings.
One of the best habits I learned as a journalist was to simply say "I don't know," when asked by the news director or executive editor where a particular story/byline stood.
Like Twain? said ... Better to be thought a goofball than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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Paw Warrior [4690]
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Orange Immortal [63133]
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Re: A word about how outlets cover hurricanes and rainy days.
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:10 PM
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Speaking of rain, since this morning I've already had to go out twice and pump water out of my pool to the lowest point of the skimmer level. Where I live right outside of cootlumbia, it has rained a river...
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Orange Elite [5427]
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Pools. So much work.
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:11 PM
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Raining steady up here in Simpsonville but not particularly hard.
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Ring of Honor [22582]
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Re: A word about how outlets cover hurricanes and rainy days.
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:11 PM
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Well said and the perfect city to use as an example. Way to much greed in Asheville and Buncombe County.
GO TIGERS!!!
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National Champion [7905]
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Re: A word about how outlets cover hurricanes and rainy days.
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Sep 26, 2024, 2:56 PM
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When we moved to Houston back in the 1970's we were shocked at how often it flooded. Especially when it was at high tide, the bayous filled up and everything else is concrete for miles and miles and it holds water. I have pictures of my 2 sons in a boat in our street during one of the storms. It becomes a way of life down there.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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My cousins lived out in Missouri City.
Sep 26, 2024, 4:30 PM
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When it rained, it flooded. And when it flooded, mosquitoes grew into great pestilential clouds. Then the fogger trucks would roll down the streets. That was in the 70s.
Nothing new under the sun, except there are just a lot more houses/streets that shed alot more water than they used to.
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Heisman Winner [83337]
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elephant in the room
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Sep 26, 2024, 3:37 PM
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Media loves a good storm and will pretend a little storm might be big -- to get clicks.
For some reason folks love to click on extreme weather possibilities, so media serves that up for us.
Politicians are quick to jump on the bandwagon to show us they care.
This storm today is kinda needed in the Upstate, or at least some rain.
I have gotten way less rain than predicted, but more than enough.
I know some will be flooded and some (maybe me) will be without power before this night is over.
It is the way of Nature.
It is also the way of man as we pave over ground and don't plan for rain run off.
Living out in the sticks, no chance of flooding at my place.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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My yard's benefitting greatly.
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Sep 26, 2024, 4:35 PM
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I can't afford nor would I pay for it if I could a fancy irrigation system. I depend on the Lord for a green/lush lawn.
I can't say I can disprove climate change in such a way that a climatologist would find credible.
I can only say that 40 years ago Dan Rather was airing stories about how a quarter of Florida -- including the Keys -- would be under water in few years because of Greenhouse gases making it so hot that it'd melt icebergs that would make the oceans overflow.
Well, I'm flying to Key West on Sunday and last I checked, it's still there. This leads me to conclude that science may itself be under the authority of another power.
BTW, I gave the "win" certificate in addition to the TU because you recently posted Charlie Rich's "Rollin' with the Flow" which is one of the great Countrypolitan songs of all time IMO. (I couldn't find the post later.)
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Heisman Winner [83337]
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Re: My yard's benefitting greatly.
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Sep 26, 2024, 4:59 PM
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Irrigation for my yard is the Tugaloo River.
Lake Hartwell is down right now, this storm should raise it, but the outdated government plan is to draw it down in Fall and let it fill in Spring.
I don't have a lawn. To the dismay of my neighbors prefer a more natural look.
Climate change is not bunk,
It has been constantly changing for millions of years.
I always repay one who gives me a coin.
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Orange Elite [5427]
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Well we got pounded here in Simpsonville.
Sep 28, 2024, 2:44 PM
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And our data and power is now back up and running.
And we're in the minority, I think.
Thnking the Lord for small favors.
But it looks like the Key West trip is off. Asheville of course has been brutalized and we were flying out of Asheville.
So we're here in GVL but we have power and data and that suits us fine.
Our family lake property (down near Big Water) got hammered -- both docks tore loose. So the welders are gonna have some work to do.
I expect the lake to rise and you're right, the Corps will make electrical hay with all the new water and we'll be right back where we started from.
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I watch the meterorlogists on Yutube
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Sep 28, 2024, 3:59 PM
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I do not listen to the weather guy on TV.
This guy is pretty good, called for flooding in Asheville on Friday., and you will get minute-to-minute updates during the storm, not predictions from 12 hours ago. There are plenty of others that run live streams and do a good job. They are less interested in sensationalizing it for coverage and more interested in keeping people safe.
https://www.youtube.com/@RyanHallYall
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Orange Elite [5427]
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Mike's Weather Page
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Sep 28, 2024, 4:07 PM
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is my go-to. He's like you describe -- just wants to inform people and make sure they have enough info to make good decisions about what to do (evacuate, storm prep, etc.). I think he actually got started because he was fed up with the local, regional and national fear mongers.
www.spaghettimodels.com
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