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Is college football going the way of college basketball?
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Nov 5, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Perhaps I am wrong, but I think there are less college basketball fans today than say 20 years ago. I personally have less interest in watching a team not named Clemson.
It seems college football is headed in the same direction once the playoffs become old hat. Having rotating players seems to have been a disaster for college basketball. Old conferences destroyed. Rivalries destroyed. Sensing the same is happening in football.
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To some degree but hard to know extent or endpoint .***
Nov 5, 2024, 9:44 AM
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Agreed . . .
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Nov 5, 2024, 10:37 AM
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the sense of regionalism is being killed. The overall uniqueness of the sport is - well, certainly not gone, but significantly diminished. The ESPN/ABC/Disney-Sports-Industrial-Complex is cookie-cutter-ing and NFL-izing the sport. It used to be a regional sport with a national dimension, but now it's becoming a national sport with significantly lessened regional aspects. The 12-team playoff is a disaster for this sport. The four team playoff was, structurally and competitively great, but given the nature of the paradigm we're in, constituted a gateway drug for the silliness of playoff expansion and the never-ending increasing obsession with the CFP as the incessantly marketed and worshipped end-all-be-all of the sport.
Markets and profits are all good in their place. But there is a sense now in which the sport exists to prop up the national TV market.
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Re: Is college football going the way of college basketball?
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Nov 5, 2024, 10:46 AM
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For basketball it began fading with the one-and-done players. Programs that built teams over years had to deal with that. Combine that with players opting for the G-League or Europe and the product became very diluted. Not only did you not know the teams they were playing, they didn't rally know what they had for their own. The NBA undermined their own product by allowing or encouraging this to happen. Why should I care about NBA players I know nothing about and have rarely seen play?
Football has adopted the same model in their own way. Basically, we're rooting for uniforms. Doesn't matter who is in them.
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Re: Is college football going the way of college basketball?
Nov 5, 2024, 11:01 AM
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If my memory is right Duke & Kentucky each won one basketball championship with the one and dones. All of those top classes and that's it. I personally can't stand one and dones, but I do understand why they do it-all it takes is one wrong move (bow out a knee) and there goes their future. But I don't follow basketball like I used to.
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Re: Is college football going the way of college basketball?
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Nov 5, 2024, 11:11 AM
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I suppose my point was that yes, you can win with the one-dones and with transfers or bought and paid for NIL players. You get a guy that can hit 3's blindfolded, win a championship and he's gone. Or even if you make the Final-4, but don't win the whole show? he's gone. What about next year? What about continued success? Who cares right? Is the talent pool that large? In basketball I would say that getting one guy or maybe two guys can make a huge difference since there's only 5 on the floor at a time. I don't believe that just one guy can make a difference in football. There are 10 other guys on the field that have to do their job too.
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Re: Is college football going the way of college basketball?
Nov 5, 2024, 11:49 AM
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I suppose my point was that yes, you can win with the one-dones and with transfers or bought and paid for NIL players. You get a guy that can hit 3's blindfolded, win a championship and he's gone. Or even if you make the Final-4, but don't win the whole show? he's gone. What about next year? What about continued success? Who cares right? Is the talent pool that large? In basketball I would say that getting one guy or maybe two guys can make a huge difference since there's only 5 on the floor at a time. I don't believe that just one guy can make a difference in football. There are 10 other guys on the field that have to do their job too.
I think we agree. I watched Duke vs Maine, and the one thing I noticed was the veterans they used made a difference vs years past when they had hardly any veterans. Remember Zion? Think what Duke could have done if he stayed 4 years (with Coach K). One year with him was useless for Duke in my opinion. That said, I think he's been mostly a average player in the NBA, I never hear anything about him anymore. I still watch a little basketball when I'm bored, but mostly watch college football now.
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Dont fool yourself college football is as popular as ever.***
Nov 5, 2024, 11:08 AM
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I think he's talking about the future, not right now***
Nov 5, 2024, 11:15 AM
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Re: Is college football going the way of college basketball?
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Nov 5, 2024, 11:43 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong. College basketball and football have huge followers and that is why conferences have huge media contracts.
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