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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Can someone explain the "illegal touching" rule to me?
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:21 AM
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I got confused watching Alabama and OU last night. Putting aside the call they made, I'm confused about the rule itself.
I always thought illegal touching was simply when a player touched a ball after having first gone out of bounds (or, maybe, was the FIRST to touch the ball after having gone out). But supposedly the rule also requires that someone who is "covered up," cannot touch the ball or catch a pass? How is such a rule even possible? Wouldn't that make it categorically illegal for slot receivers and RB's to catch passes - something which happens all the time)? What gives?
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A) What does exactly does "covered up" mean? Does it mean simply that a player is lined up in the slot? Or does it simply mean they are lined up behind the LOS (as opposed to ON it), regardless of where they are? Or does it simply mean that some other player (any player? presumably someone on the LOS) is farther up than them? Or, does it refer to another player actually being lined up directly in front of another player (a relative rarity)?
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B) If a player IS covered up, then what is the restriction that applies? Does it mean they are thus an ineligible receiver? I can't see how that could be the case since such players catch passes all the time. Furthermore, if being "covered up" makes you ineligible, then why not just call the "ineligible receiver downfield" penalty even sooner than they did?
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Re: Can someone explain the "illegal touching" rule to me?
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:21 AM
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No still means no... HTH
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Irrelevant and in applicable****
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Re: Irrelevant and in applicable****
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:30 AM
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“If you have to ask….you can’t afford it.”
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Also irrelevant******
Nov 24, 2024, 1:29 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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No ...
Nov 24, 2024, 1:45 PM
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I'm confused about the rule, yes (hence the question. But the fact of the irrelevance of your comment stands.
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Ring of Honor [22705]
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Re: No ...
Nov 24, 2024, 1:50 PM
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LOL, and testy too...
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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False
Nov 24, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Don't confuse testy with justified disdain. You're receiving the latter, not the former.
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Ring of Honor [22705]
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Re: False
Nov 24, 2024, 1:59 PM
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You should have told me you were justified; it would have made a difference...
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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I was from the start
Nov 24, 2024, 2:01 PM
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but you wouldn't know what it was in reference to, since your 6th grade mind is elsewhere.
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Ring of Honor [22705]
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Re: I was from the start
Nov 24, 2024, 2:02 PM
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Sure, we'll go with that so you can feel better about yourself.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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No, but because it's true . . .
Nov 24, 2024, 2:04 PM
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since I'm not the one who made the lame joke.
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Ring of Honor [22705]
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Re: No, but because it's true . . .
Nov 24, 2024, 2:05 PM
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Most people don't take jokes, lame or otherwise, so seriously. To each his own I guess...
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Except you
Nov 24, 2024, 2:07 PM
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who made a dumb one and then tripled down on its supposed worthiness.
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Re: Except you
Nov 24, 2024, 2:07 PM
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LOL... too easy
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Sorry, that doesn't float ...
Nov 24, 2024, 2:14 PM
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the last refuge of those who've beencornered and exposed - to change course and act like they're a winning troll. But I've seen you around - this is just who you are. There's nothing triumphal about it.
Weaksauce.
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Re: Sorry, that doesn't float ...
Nov 24, 2024, 2:15 PM
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Feel better now?
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Just fine to start with. Unlike yourself***
Nov 24, 2024, 2:17 PM
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Re: Just fine to start with. Unlike yourself***
Nov 24, 2024, 2:18 PM
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Yes, we can tell...
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Indeed, it's clear
Nov 24, 2024, 2:20 PM
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but weird irrelevant responses of course say something different on your end.
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Covered up means you are on the line of scrimmage
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:35 AM
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but have a receiver outside of you also on the line of scrimmage. Inside guy needs to move back to become eligible. Didn’t see the play, but believe they can throw a flag for ineligible receiver downfield and then if touches a flag for that - I thing illegal touching is worse because believe it’s loss of down vs ineligible receiver.
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All-American [587]
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Re: Covered up means you are on the line of scrimmage
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Nov 24, 2024, 10:42 AM
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This. They said he was covered by Caleb Odom who was slotted out farther than Williams and on the LOS, which made Williams ineligible.
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Clemson Conqueror [11802]
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Re: Covered up means you are on the line of scrimmage
Nov 24, 2024, 12:13 PM
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Have no clue as to the answer.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Re: Can someone explain the "illegal touching" rule to me?
Nov 24, 2024, 12:17 PM
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Matt Gaetz, is that you?
I didn’t realize you were on T-Net
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Clemson Icon [24195]
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The "tackle eligible" play is a perfect illustration of the rule.
Nov 24, 2024, 12:18 PM
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In nearly every play from scrimmage, the offensive tackle is not an eligible receiver because there is someone (TE or WR) who is on the line of scrimmage between him and the sideline. Of all the players on the line of scrimmage, on the one of the far left and the one on the far right are eligible to go downfield and catch a pass.
So in a tackle eligible play, they make sure everyone between the tackle between and the sideline is OFF the line of scrimmage. It's a trick play because normally everyone assumes the tackle is there to block or is covered up.
I actually got to be the fake tackle on one of these plays in high school. We only ever ran it once in the 4 years I was there and it worked for a 35 yard TD.
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Paw Warrior [4752]
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Re: Can someone explain the "illegal touching" rule to me?
Nov 24, 2024, 1:42 PM
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Ask state penn fans.
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Re: Can someone explain the "illegal touching" rule to me?
Nov 24, 2024, 2:06 PM
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