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TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 4:45 PM
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Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 5, 2022, 5:17 PM
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Didn't know Malcolm was involved...
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Re: Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 5, 2022, 5:37 PM
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First I heard of Greene too. Must have missed that in the original accident. Hate it for both but just glad it wasn't fatal, as serious as it is.
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So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 5, 2022, 5:52 PM
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The Kirby Law , it seems, is at nearly every university now. I can't believe that a university has any right to step Into law matters esp when a person is hurt. Mentioned something about handling misdemeanord from a ''university standpoint". Sure man. So does that mean that if a player is picked up for let's say petit larceny or malicious damage, simple assault, all go through the university's punishment as opposed to judicial or magistrate penalties? Wow
That's not fair to the criminal or the victim. And we see here that I. This case it didn't work out
I'm guessing Ms Alvarez found some ##### that wants to take a car wreck to civil court and sue for emotional and physical damage and shyt. Wow
My question is how much does a lawyer expect to get from two college students? Lol ###
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 9:57 AM
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The lady almost died. Like Dabo said, everyone knew this was coming.
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Orange Blooded [2021]
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So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 5, 2022, 5:52 PM
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The Kirby Law , it seems, is at nearly every university now. I can't believe that a university has any right to step Into law matters esp when a person is hurt. Mentioned something about handling misdemeanord from a ''university standpoint". Sure man. So does that mean that if a player is picked up for let's say petit larceny or malicious damage, simple assault, all go through the university's punishment as opposed to judicial or magistrate penalties? Wow
That's not fair to the criminal or the victim. And we see here that I. This case it didn't work out
I'm guessing Ms Alvarez found some ##### that wants to take a car wreck to civil court and sue for emotional and physical damage and shyt. Wow
My question is how much does a lawyer expect to get from two college students? Lol ###
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 5, 2022, 7:27 PM
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Um, charged with a misdemeanor by civilian authorities and then faced internal discipline with school/football team. This is a civil case. Three separate issues.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 5, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Internal discipline which resulted in zero suspensions. Whoopty doo
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 10:50 AM
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What are you talking about? Davis literally didn’t put a helmet on in 2021
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 11:15 AM
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Davis played in 9 games last year.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 1:28 PM
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The internal punishments are darn near irrelevant. Whether a player gets benched or kicked off the team or given a Heisman trophy shouldn't mean squat vs. what the legal system should have in store.
The legal punishments for street racing, however, are currently too lax.
The criminal component needs to statutory consequences similar to that of DWI / DUI.
After defining what level of exceeding speed limit is considered to be 'street racing,' then the minimum punishments need to be dramatically increased.
First instance (if no harm to others): 5 days in jail + 6 month suspension of DL.
First instance (if harm to others occurred): 30 days in jail + 3 year suspension of drivers license.
Second instance (if no harm to others): 10 days in jail + 1 year suspension of DL.
Second instance (if harm to others happened after no harm to others in 1st instance): 1 year in jail + 5 year suspension of DL + vehicle is seized (whether owned by the driver, or by a relative or friend).
Second instance (if harm to others happened after there was harm to others in 1st instance): 5 years in jail + permanent suspension of DL + vehicle is seized (whether owned by the driver, or by a relative or friend).
Bad actions should result in bad consequences.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 5, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Not sure what you’re even saying. Fred charged with reckless driving (the most serious charge available since luckily the lady did not die). In addition to that, the team/school punished him. Happens regularly, even for non athletes. Get a DUI and college can require substance abuse counseling, put you on probation, etc IN ADDITION to whatever the government gives you on the criminal side.
As for civil suit, I’d bet she’s trying to get both of the players insurance $ and also some underinsured coverage she probably had on her own vehicle.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 12:26 PM
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She was driving mail truck so insurance falls on USPS as far as that goes. All fault is on Fred though.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 7:39 AM
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With NIL being in the news so much I wonder if that has anything to do with this situation. No one knows how much either player has earned through NIL but the topic is covered so often recently that I wonder if this woman thinks the players are all rich.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 17, 2022, 11:54 AM
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You sue people for insurance money. Lol, what moron would think that some relatively unknown DB has any kind of NIL money worth going after?
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Shut up, coot***
Oct 17, 2022, 11:59 AM
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All-In [10838]
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The legal system is a joke anyway
Oct 6, 2022, 10:40 AM
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I don’t see why you’re so mad. Privileged people get different treatment.. this is not new. Those kids are valuable.
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Re: So, we've got the same crap UGA HAS
Oct 6, 2022, 11:12 AM
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She has to file the lawsuit to get whatever insurance the players may have. As for them personally, if the lawsuit is not settled, they will just file bankruptcy before signing an NFL contract, if they get one.
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Re: Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 6, 2022, 9:52 AM
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They were racing probably the other driver wasn't involved in the accident. Going twice the speed limit but should have been arrested for felony attempted murder for racing like that.
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Re: Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 5, 2022, 5:41 PM
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Covil and Pride will be getting a lot of playing time this year. Will have to grow up quickly.
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Re: Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 5, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Nothing is going to happen playing-time wise; if either player misses time, it won’t be because of this. This issue has already been handled internally last year, the lawsuit is honestly just a formality. Their insurance will handle it and they’ll probably never even see the court room.
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Re: Thought it was just Fred...
Oct 5, 2022, 9:59 PM
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Okay. So much for my comment.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 5:42 PM
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TNET legalese please correct me if I am wrong. I believe the lawsuit may be required for some insurance settlements.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 5:43 PM
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Auto correct got me. Was supposed to be legal eagles.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 9:42 PM
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Yes, she’s suing to collect whatever liability insurance those guys had, and could be looking for underinsured coverage from her own personal policy (even if not in her personal vehicle). She’s also probably going to get worker’s compensation from the federal system also as she was injured at work.
Sad all the way around. Hope there is a lot of coverage out there for her to get. Hope those guys learned something also.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 6, 2022, 10:01 AM
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I'm not a lawyer but have worked in the legal industry for many years. While I'm not 100% sure, in some cases where there is such a gross neglect a judge can allow a plaintiff to sue individuals personally in addition to their covered liability. I am thinking that the plaintiff has sued the insurance company covering Davis based on the traffic accident and is now attempting to go after both Davis and Greene personally due to the gross neglect.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 5:42 PM
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Dial all 9s.
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I have very little sympathy for someone driving like that.
Oct 5, 2022, 5:46 PM
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If he ends up making money as a pro between now and a settlement/verdict, and her injuries are bad enough, he may end up paying some out of pocket money, in addition to insurance money. I’m ok with that. Such a terrible choice that has serious consequences.
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I did things during my teen and early 20s which still...
Oct 5, 2022, 6:28 PM
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haunt me. Life has a way of helping us mature if we don't take to the learning our parents tried to give us without the pain.
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Better call Saul!***
Oct 5, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Re: Better call Saul!***
Oct 5, 2022, 5:56 PM
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If racing is proven incourt both will lose their cars as well possibly. I'm just not up to date on racing laws in SC.
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Re: Better call Saul!***
Oct 6, 2022, 10:06 AM
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This will be civil court not criminal.
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Re: Better call Saul!***
Oct 6, 2022, 1:34 PM
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Looks like it is a civil case, but the laws need to be changed to make street racing criminal matter.
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Good luck suing the passenger of the car…
Oct 5, 2022, 6:04 PM
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How is any of this his fault?
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Re: Good luck suing the passenger of the car…
Oct 5, 2022, 6:05 PM
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Already running front page on espin, what a surprise.
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Re: Good luck suing the passenger of the car…
Oct 5, 2022, 6:10 PM
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Article mentions they were weaving through traffic with their vehicles in close proximity. Don't recall Green and another vehicle mentioned in early articles.
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Re: Good luck suing the passenger of the car…
Oct 5, 2022, 8:35 PM
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Because Green wasn’t in the accident but it looks like he helped cause it by racing Davis. Makes sense…not too many people are going 115mph without someone to race
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Chickens coming home to roost! I figured this would
Oct 5, 2022, 6:14 PM
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come back around at some point.
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There was no mention of driving drunk so...
Oct 5, 2022, 6:31 PM
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we know neither the chickens nor the dwags weren't involved.
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Re: There was no mention of driving drunk so...
Oct 6, 2022, 12:09 PM
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(snicker-giggle)
Prayers up to Ms. Alvarez, fortunate this was not worse, unfortunate it happened to begin with.
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Insurance
Oct 5, 2022, 6:29 PM
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Wouldn't their liability insurance pay for this?
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Re: Insurance
Oct 5, 2022, 6:33 PM
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Up to a certain amount. Most insurance policies are capped for liability, collision and comprehensive.
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Re: Insurance
Oct 6, 2022, 9:55 AM
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You have to sue the person. When they lose them insurance part kicks in.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 7:27 PM
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Hopefully they are made examples of. Reminds me of the clown from the Raiders who killed that woman last year. Stupid is stupid no matter what team you play for.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 5, 2022, 7:40 PM
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I think he should’ve been kicked off the team last year. I mean, we suspended Sammy for 2 games for WEED! This is much worse
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The only real good that will come from this is
Oct 5, 2022, 10:18 PM
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that hopefully some young kids will learn the reality of a speeding car's impact potential.
When I was a kid, two teenagers were killed as a result of their speed and the cops put their terribly mangled car on display for all the kids of the town to see. I know at least one kid it made an impression on. Too bad that same sort of lesson couldn't be done in today's sissified world.
This crash is tragic for the woman and tragic for the two players. Everybody loses.
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Re: The only real good that will come from this is
Oct 6, 2022, 7:05 AM
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It’s tragic for the woman. Not tragic for Davis. He chose to drive like an irresponsible fool and now should pay dearly for it. The woman’s life has been permanently changed by his foolish actions. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know how dangerous it is to drive 115 under any conditions let alone with other people on the road. His actions show he cares about no one but himself and now he has to deal with the consequences which should be steep in my eyes. I would be so pissed off if that was my mother he hit. I’d be going after every last penny he had. He should be off the team. Very disappointed
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Game Changer [1788]
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I hope you don't have a young family member
Oct 6, 2022, 11:51 AM
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who makes a mistake like this.
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Re: I hope you don't have a young family member
Oct 6, 2022, 12:13 PM
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The problem is this case is that the mistake caused permanent damage to another person. You can't just say "kids do dumb things" and shrug you shoulders on this one.
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Re: I hope you don't have a family member - doesn't matter
Oct 6, 2022, 1:39 PM
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It doesn't matter how sorry a parent or guardian or sibling feels about the consequences that a young family member faces for profoundly irresponsible and dangerous-to-others behavior.
Youthful narcissism is no excuse for hurting someone else. Sorry, but this cannot be excused.
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 6, 2022, 3:12 PM
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Typical. Like none of you have ever done anything wrong, just typical.probably every last one of you has driven under the influence and still a lot of you can’t drive and break rules all the time, yet you are sure free to cast the stones at these guys. They hypocrisy shown here is hilarious
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Re: TNET: Clemson cornerbacks being sued for 2021 accident with Postal worker
Oct 17, 2022, 11:58 AM
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You can drive drunk and still cast stones. No one drives drunk not knowing the potential consequences.
The whole "every one of you did stupid things when you were younger" is a horrible argument
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Unsure how Greene is charged civilly ...
Oct 6, 2022, 9:03 PM
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Yes. There allegedly seems to have been a race. But Greene luckily or skillfully did not hit the USPS vehicle.
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National Champion [7120]
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who would Davis been racing if Greene wasn't involved?
Oct 17, 2022, 11:59 AM
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he's just as culpable as Davis
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