Re: I'm not really having a problem with what Tyreek did

It is an interesting thing to consider. We don't yet know the evidence that he was speeding. For a moment let's say he was.

If a guy in a supercar speeds down the highway, kills a person at a traffic light, then later blows a .16, we all want to know why cops are not stopping this. When a car is stopped, aggressive behavior by the driver is a sign of intoxication. All the cop did was ask him to roll the window down so the cop could see into the car, a reasonable safety matter. When Ty acted like he did, getting him out of the car in cuffs was a reasonable thing to do. They didn't keep him long, they wrote him a ticket, they let him go. He scored a touchdown and earned big money. No rights were violated, no harm was done to anyone. Had he been an intoxicated idiot, the cops would have done exactly the right thing.

But did they have to cuff him? It looks bad on film. No question. I could take Ty's side and say that the cop could have first said, when opening the door, "Please step out", and seen what Ty did. Granted. On the other hand, Ty was in full obstinate mode by then, had already refused one request. Traffic stops that begin with that driver behavior tend to go south. So, very much a gray area, it seems. But it was, all factors considered, no-harm-no-foul, when the environment is one of intoxicated drivers.

Maybe you have another take.

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Sep 10, 2024, 11:53 AM

Your comment is correct. It does happen to non celebrities. It does get scrutiny, but in a fun way. So, this is one take on that:

My bias is that since I dont use TV except for college football, youtube is my video entertainment. I end up watching too many body cam videos just because they are so darned fun. White, black, male, female, redneck or rich, it doesn't matter ... when they start acting like Hill did, it goes really bad, and they are usually intoxicated. And they say the craziest stuff you've ever heard. Cops get hit, kicked, spit on, knifed and shot at, and it goes from that belligerent attitude to violence in about 2 seconds. I can see cops having the default that once a person displays that attitude, the next step is cuffs until the truth of the situation can be uncovered. How they reacted to Hill's belligerence happens routinely. In Hill's case, the end was just a ticket because, his aggressiveness aside, that was the truth of the situation.

They wear body cams for that reason, and the cops know they are wearing them when they react as they do. So, those interactions are out there for us to see. If treating potentially intoxicated people as though they are intoxicated until the truth can be uncovered gets a cop in trouble, we'll see less enforcement, because they need to keep their jobs, and they are not going to put themselves in a situation where the offender gets a free first move. That outcome is what we really don't want.

But I know there is another way to look at it. I said 'bias' because I know those are the cams that get posted.

Edit: Some of the media reaction seems manufactured, like they haven't seen dozens of those interactions on youtube like everybody else. They know. So, it happens to a celebrity and it's, "OMG, did you see that?" Okay.

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I'm not really having a problem with what Tyreek did