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TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:08 PM
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:10 PM
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Good tired of hearing about it, wish him the best
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Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 7:10 PM
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Would love more details.
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Probably $$$ related.***
Jun 14, 2022, 7:13 PM
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CU Guru [1561]
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Re: Probably $$$ related.***
Jun 14, 2022, 7:49 PM
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I hope he doesn’t end up in jail in Miami….. ?? ?? ?? ??
Clemson needs players who want to be all in!
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Re: Probably $$$ related.***
Jun 14, 2022, 9:15 PM
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He's 5ft 9in..honestly I have really enjoyed our taller receiving corps over the past few years
...he got a financial (read tampering) offer he couldn't refuse. We will know who made the offer when he signs.
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Re: Probably $$$ related.***
Jun 14, 2022, 11:17 PM
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Amari Rodgers was 5'9" and Renfrow 5'10". Your height worry is unwarranted if they are dynamic with ball in their hands?
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What was the offer?
Jun 15, 2022, 10:36 AM
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Now I'm curious---what was the offer that turned him just a week after Clemson announced several NIL funding arms & weeks before the NIL & Branding Institute opens?
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Re: Probably $$$ related.***
Jun 15, 2022, 4:02 PM
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yeah we couldn't have used a slot receiver last year
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Orange Blooded [2233]
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Re: maybe our NIL process didn't offer enough or any cash
Jun 14, 2022, 7:45 PM
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It’s funny cause Miami’s NIL is now getting looked into by the NCAA.
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Miami is being investigated by the NCAA?
Jun 15, 2022, 10:37 AM
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This is huge news! I haven't heard it anywhere before, though. Do you have any more information about the investigation?
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 7:33 PM
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I love how he said that after multiple reports were coming out for several weeks that Miami was recruiting him hard. Like dude just say you decided Miami was the right place for you. No big deal.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 7:44 PM
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For sure. Have some balls and be straight up and you might get respected. But some of these kids just weren’t raised to have that kinda integrity . Just own that Miami bought you, or whoever it is
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 7:38 PM
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Would love more details.
Not sure, but there were rumors that he was going to visit Louisville, and that he had already attended some kind of Miami Camp. If so, that goes against Dabo's policy with commits. Once you commit, you're committed--visits and such are off the table. I'm sure there was a follow-on discussion between Dabo and recruit/family that did not go particularly well. So, decommitment resulted.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 7:55 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem if a kid camps somewhere else. Official visits I can see. But if Dabo is against a kid committing and going to another camp, I disagree with him on that.
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Game Changer [1679]
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 8:03 PM
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Who cares if you disagree you aren’t the coach.
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So she isn’t allowed to have an opinion if she isn’t the coach?
Jun 14, 2022, 8:06 PM
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Goodness.
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Re: So she isn’t allowed to have an opinion if she isn’t the coach?
Jun 14, 2022, 8:58 PM
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Helen Keller Chimes in with a football post, go back to pretending our mediocre basketball team is well coached
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Dang CDixon11.... LOL
Jun 14, 2022, 9:57 PM
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who hurt you?
LOL!!
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Re: So she isn’t allowed to have an opinion if she isn’t the coach?
Jun 14, 2022, 9:30 PM
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Well, we have had a million of more men, and women since the settlement of this country have already sacrificed their life, with millions more that are on duty in uniform that's ready to sacrifice so that American's can have our freedoms to do what ever we want to do that isn't considered to be a criminal act against ones family, or property.
Having an opinion, and voicing our opinion is one of our rights that so many have given their lives to assure our rights of freedom. So I would say that any American citizen in America has the right to have an opinion regardless of what their employment is, even if it's an opinion of what someone else does, or don't do, and that's my opinion regardless of who do, or who don't like it. Just as it is OK for those that don't like it, to have an opinion why they don't like it, it's their opinion, everybody has the right to express their opinion regardless of how different!!!
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Re: So she isn’t allowed to have an opinion if she isn’t the coach?
Jun 15, 2022, 9:29 AM
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You're being a bit dramatic.
Comparing a first amendment right from one person that you want protected (i.e., the poster who said that our commits should be able to go to non-Clemson FB camps) to a first amendment right for a person (not the Gov't, but another person ... who disagrees with the first person and opined that her opinion wasn't valid) whose first amendment right you don't like.
What about all the men who died fighting our rights of free speech, American flag, etc. etc. etc. for the second poster?
Time to lay off the coffee.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 8:24 PM
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He shouldn't have committed so soon if he or his family intended to shop around for NIL money. He knew the rules around Dabo's round table and he broke them. Sounds like another Kendrick to me. In defense of the aforementioned rules, what if the kid goes on to use his officials and gets hurt? Of course he could get hurt where he committed, but it's like when Ron Gant (former Braves player) got really hurt riding a motorcycle. It was in his contract that he signed, NO MOTORCYCLES!!! Should this kid or Gant be allowed to do what they want?? Go ahead and blame Dabo if you must. I encourage you to delete your account.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 6:30 AM
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Committing to a premier school makes you more valuable. When Miami, or whoever, comes calling, the check will have to be that much bigger
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 9:57 PM
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I agree with Dabo if you are committed to Clemson why visit other schools. It's time to focus on Clemson football and your future teammates. Do your visits before you commit.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 9:57 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem if a kid camps somewhere else. Official visits I can see. But if Dabo is against a kid committing and going to another camp, I disagree with him on that.
I agree with Dabo if you are committed to Clemson why visit other schools. It's time to focus on Clemson football and your future teammates. Do your visits before you commit.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 10:30 PM
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Y'all didn't get what I said. I explicitly stated official visits should be off the table. But what y'all took and ran with, a kid can't go to any camp and hone their craft.
The way you're saying it and others, then a kid shouldn't be able to go to anything like DJU did going to Houston and working with a trainer. I'd encourage a kid to go to as many camps as possible. That's all. That's not an official visit.
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Orange Blooded [2446]
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 6:48 AM
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Going to a trainer, that person doesn't necessarily have a dog in the fight when it comes to recruiting. They can, but that wouldn't be their primary goal. Camps are different. You are going to a school where their primary goal goal is recruitment. How many kids have committed to us since the last camp.... Dabo has specifically said that camps are a way to judge a recruits talent and whether the staff will offer.
No. Absolutely not. Your commitment is your word and your honor. If you want to continue to go to the camps, make a silent pledge and then go have fun. When you commit to Clemson, part of that handshake is "no more visits", camp or otherwise. If you make that commitment, and break it, then your word means nothing.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 9:36 AM
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C'mon ... FB camps are a recruiting platform.
Just because Clemson doesn't 'wine and dine' recruits and their families when HS players come to our camp doesn't mean that the opportunity for recruiting doesn't exist.
It's all a matter of the principles of the FB program that is conducting the camps.
Neither U of Miami now U of Louisville are paragons of virtue. Compared to Clemson under Dabo, trusting your kid to get pure coaching at a FB camp vs. trusting UofM or UofL to do the same is like comparing the neighbor teenage girl to babysit your 1st grade girl to having Ghislane Maxwell doing the babysitting.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 1:31 PM
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Classic G Maxwell reference...should've taken it one step further and mentioned either barry, bill, or fact biden has (purposefully) an island - short sub ride away btw - from Epstein island. The World's wake up call to the fact that these pedophiles have been running the world for as long as they have is going to have people losing their minds. Some of us, have known about it all for a long time.
Anyway, appreciate the GM reference, lil bread crumbs for the sheeple.
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 2:33 PM
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and that has what to do with Clemson football Put down the Kool Aid not everything is about your personal gripes
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 14, 2022, 8:46 PM
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More detail, Joseph Nathaniel will end up in a few weeks committing to Miami, or Texass A&M, and his family have been offered a chunk of NIL money from a McDonalds bag, it was a Happy family meal, adult size!!!!
When he recommits, we will know what coach offered him the McDonalds NIL Happy family meal Bag for adults. I'm sure he has been told to take a few visits before he commits, and receives his special McDonalds NIL Happy family meal Bag, adult size, to take suspicion away from the "NIL" happy bag man!!!
It is mine, and many others opinion that the NIL opened up both barn doors for the cheaters to buy what ever players they want regardless of the student athletes prior commitment, or even if they have signed and went through a season with a college program. If the cheaters want a certain student athlete, or athletes, there is nothing standing in the way of the cheaters from buying those types athletes regardless of what college program they're at when a secret agreement being made to pay a student athlete undercover of a dirty/fake NIL pretense bc, the money is coming from rich booster under any desired NIL they want it to be. And that is what one judge pushed through his court all by himself. He was probably one of those booster looking for a legal way to pay student athletes out in the open, even if it was through dirty dealing that would be all most impossible prosecute if done the right way!!!
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Re: Some things took place that me and my family didn’t like???
Jun 15, 2022, 1:32 PM
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It is a collective opinion by those that "get it" and see what's truly going on here...it is, sadly the death of CFB as we know it.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:10 PM
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Not unexpected but still sux.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:11 PM
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Good luck to him.
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WELL….BYE! Opens a spot for another!***
Jun 14, 2022, 7:12 PM
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Definitely sucks, he’s going to be electric
Jun 14, 2022, 7:12 PM
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Didn’t like was probably the no more visits thing again. Oh well.
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YEP- Probably got an ultimatum from Dabo
Jun 14, 2022, 7:22 PM
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about the rumored Louisville visit. Miami was putting a ton of hometown pressure on him too. This is the kind a crap that NIL has brought on all around the country. We all have to stay on the midline with these kids because commitment now often means "unless a better deal comes along".
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Surpri***
Jun 14, 2022, 7:15 PM
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Don’t let the door hit ya
Jun 14, 2022, 7:20 PM
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Friggin money grabber.
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Re: Don’t let the door hit ya
Jun 14, 2022, 7:23 PM
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You beat me to it!
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CU Guru [1698]
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In a capitalistic society, we're all money grabbers...
Jun 14, 2022, 10:11 PM
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As long as we don't steal from other citizens, EVERYTHING is about the money grab and moral platitudes really don't matter...
Just get all the bags that you can get; Clemson is participating in the money grab also...
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:20 PM
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I hope we face the Canes in an ACC Championship and smother him
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I don't
Jun 14, 2022, 9:58 PM
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I hope Miami is NEVER good enough to make it to the ACC championship.
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You know we play Miami this year, right?
Jun 15, 2022, 10:40 AM
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You know we play Miami this year, right?
Or are you saying you want to play them twice in three weeks?
It could happen, that's for sure!
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Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out.
Jun 14, 2022, 7:22 PM
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Opens a spot for someone that is All-In.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:23 PM
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Either ALL IN or not all in! Good luck to you and do what is best for you! Cha$e the money or join the family!
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:23 PM
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I bet the people who bragged about Clemson’s recruiting being so great are really mad at this one.
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Rival Killer [2939]
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Not really
Jun 14, 2022, 7:25 PM
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It's early,he goes his way, Clemson goes their way
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:26 PM
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Not at all, anyone following Clemsons recruiting knew this was coming. Glad it happened sooner then later time to find his replacement.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 6:52 AM
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I'd rather have it now, when staff can switch gears. Go after someone who is "all in". Better than losing to portal and having to scramble
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 1:36 PM
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Why would they be mad at "this one"...simple fact is Clemson is one of 2/3 of the elite programs in the country, and that's been the case for about a decade. One shady WR from Miami that has no integrity means zero to Clemson people. If anything we enjoy when a kid shows his true colors and is clearly not a Clemson gentleman. Miami, L'ville or a shady thug place like UGA will likely suit him best. We only take the best, player and character wise...good riddance and I don't think any true Clemson fan gives a rat's #### about one suspect player. We are at the top, and the best of the best want to come to Clemson - that's not, nor will change.
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I bet he'll stay home at Miami
Jun 14, 2022, 7:27 PM
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One step forward, one step backwards. So frustrating!
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Re: I bet he'll stay home at Miami
Jun 14, 2022, 10:18 PM
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6 steps forward 1 step backward
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NO he didn't
Jun 14, 2022, 7:30 PM
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He just never made a real commitment to begin with... this is all on him & his parents.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:31 PM
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I laugh at how he said that there were some things he disagreed with. He’s clearly referring to Dabo’s “no visiting” policy. The kid had to have known that before committing. Dabo has been open about that policy for years.
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I don't understand how kids don't understand this
Jun 14, 2022, 10:00 PM
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It's been known that this is the way it is for years now.
It should not come as a surprise to any kid. Don't commit if you want to take your visits, and if you're the last one on our board, we don't keep recruiting either.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:33 PM
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Off to 8-4 for 3 years at Miami
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110%er [6166]
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From a talent and a need perspective this hurts ... but ...
Jun 14, 2022, 7:33 PM
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... better that he go ahead and get gone now rather than pull a Demarckus Bowman on us after he gets to campus.
We have over six months until signing day. The staff has probably already identified his replacement.
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Man... wish him the best....***
Jun 14, 2022, 7:38 PM
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:38 PM
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Kind of a low class move to mention vague things that he and family did not like.
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:40 PM
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This is good news. He’s just telling us to not save a spot for him. Good to know now and not six months from now. We got six months to find a dude better than him. Not a problem.
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Offensive Star [324]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:49 PM
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This is good news. He’s just telling us to not save a spot for him. Good to know now and not six months from now. We got six months to find a dude better than him. Not a problem.
This is the best timing for us with recruiting going as good as it is. I hope we go after someone who will play the slot position and have some speed like Amari Rogers type of player. Best of luck to him.
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Tiger Spirit [9778]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:46 PM
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Two thoughts. First, a kid that is a Junior in high school rarely knows what he or she wants to do in the next hour, much less two years away. Second, this is exactly why we should not get excited with commitments because they mean nothing until the scholarship papers are signed.
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Paw Warrior [4884]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:39 PM
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These days, they don't mean much even after signing.
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CU Guru [1350]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:47 PM
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No whining. Next.
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All-Conference [414]
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Bye Felicia!
Jun 14, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Sounds like he was looking for a way out of his “commitment”. Good riddance!
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Orange Blooded [4607]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:55 PM
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We all seen this coming for awhile now. No hard feelings here. Good luck. Rather know now than weeks before signing day. We’ve got plenty of time to bring in someone else.
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All-Pro [686]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:55 PM
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“But some things happened that me and my family didn’t like…”
Bush league to put that in the statement. Just low class. He’ll fit in great at the u. Or Louisville, who wishes they were a Kirkland version of miami.
Here’s hoping he busts and is begging FIU for a transfer spot in two years. Invest that NIL wisely, kid.
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Game Day Hero [4431]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 7:58 PM
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Bye. I’d immediately try to replace him. If he chooses Miami or Louisville he’s regret that decision forever. Short term money won’t last.
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Orange Immortal [61547]
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He's young and has some growing up to do. Hope he learns
Jun 14, 2022, 7:58 PM
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the meaning of "commitment" and learns to embrace it. Glad Clemson has it's priorities right.
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Tiger Titan [46617]
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I’m guessing we are blaming NIL for this one?***
Jun 14, 2022, 8:04 PM
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Game Day Hero [4431]
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Re: I’m guessing we are blaming NIL for this one?***
Jun 14, 2022, 8:06 PM
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Ugh 100% that’s exactly the reason. What is your deal with NIL?
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Orange Phenom [14544]
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I don't think that is the reason
Jun 14, 2022, 10:02 PM
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I think he wants to visit other schools. I think Dabo/Tyler told him that he needs to decommit then, and we're going to pursue other players b/c we're not going to wait and hold a spot for a "maybe".
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Tiger Titan [46617]
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I’m just trying to learn the rules.
Jun 14, 2022, 10:04 PM
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It seems that when we get good recruits, it’s because we are awesome and have great recruiters.
And when we miss on someone, it’s because of NIL.
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Orange Blooded [2446]
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Re: I’m just trying to learn the rules.
Jun 15, 2022, 7:03 AM
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Why would someone want to go anywhere other than Clemson?
Seriously, if you were committed to us, with all the tools we have; decomitting to go to another school, one that doesn't offer anything other than a handful of "now" cash, seems pretty obvious.
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Playmaker [383]
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Re: I’m just trying to learn the rules.
Jun 15, 2022, 11:54 AM
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Why would someone want to go anywhere other than Clemson?
Seriously, if you were committed to us, with all the tools we have; decomitting to go to another school, one that doesn't offer anything other than a handful of "now" cash, seems pretty obvious.
I never understand why our fans say things like this. Clemson is in a small town in one of the least attractive states for young people. Dabo and company have done a great job of recruiting at such a disadvantage. Clemson doesn't offer some mystery benefits that a recruit can't find at another school.
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110%er [6166]
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Why is The Palmetto State unattractive to young people?
Jun 15, 2022, 6:39 PM
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I think you are ascribing your own personal values to other people.
A great many players (and their parents) choose Clemson for many of the things you probably would list as “unattractive” ...
It’s definitely not for everybody, but for many young people and their parents, the state of SC in general and Clemson in particular is very attractive.
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110%er [6166]
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Judge ... I think that’s it precisely. We ARE awesome, and
Jun 15, 2022, 10:40 AM
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we get great lots of players for that reason alone.
By the same token, we lose some great players because our awesomeness just isn’t enough and they are willing to settle for some place *less awesome* in order to satisfy a short-term, short-sighted urge.
At any rate, I think you totally hit the nail on the head.
So ... for this moment in time, YOU are awesome too!
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Orange Blooded [4607]
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Re: I’m guessing we are blaming NIL for this one?***
Jun 14, 2022, 8:10 PM
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Actually I blame Brownell. I’m hearing he was a huge basketball fan, and he would rather watch Louisville or Miami than Big Bad Bradley ball.
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Athletic Dir [1141]
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ill say it again… these type dudes affect recruiting 3x as much
Jun 14, 2022, 8:06 PM
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because clemson is the type that 100% stopped recruiting slot. as opposed to other programs who are willing to oversign and drop. im hoping this doesnt affect 2024 and 2025 but really tough pill to swallow
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Dynasty Maker [3250]
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What top player would choose
Jun 14, 2022, 8:21 PM
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Miami or Louisville over Clemson unless NIL $$$ is involved?
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Ultimate Tiger [38958]
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Not Worthy of Being Called a Clemson Man
Jun 14, 2022, 8:19 PM
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Just a confused little boy
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All-Conference [408]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 8:23 PM
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remember when Foreman decommitted? We picked up Myles Murphy. I think it worked out better for Clemson then. Lets get us another Murphy at the WR position
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Recruit [97]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 8:30 PM
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Uhhhh…. Murphy signed a class before Foreman, and before he ever committed.
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Recruit [97]
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Playmaker [393]
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Playmaker [393]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Oops, it was Flow, not Foreman. Simpson still worth more than either of those.
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TigerNet Icon [155430]
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Recruit [97]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 6:24 PM
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What idiot thumbed you up? That literally didn't happen. You're getting it confused with Justin Flowe not signing which allowed us to sign Trenton Simpson. Different people and positions.
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TigerNet Immortal [165728]
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CONGARTS NATHANIEL YULE ALWAYS BE ALMOST A TIGER!***
Jun 14, 2022, 8:33 PM
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Orange Blooded [2298]
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Back-up plan better than the original
Jun 14, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Dabo won me over when Cordarrian Richardson (remember him, yeah, no one else does either) decommitted and we got some scrub named Travis Etienne at the last minute.
Seemed to have worked out well.
Shoot we "missed" on Ty Simpson and only got Klubnik...who ended up more highly rated.
I trust our staff. WRU isn't a myth. Let's see what rabbits they pull out of the hat.
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Standout [240]
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Re: Back-up plan better than the original
Jun 14, 2022, 9:31 PM
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Brilliant post! Believe in Dabo’s process. I was excited about Joseph too, but there’s clearly a better option that is All-in.
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CU Guru [1054]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 8:55 PM
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Using the Lords name in a de-commitment! How lame is that? If God had moved him to commit I don’t think God had a change of mind.
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Game Changer [1950]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:20 PM
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this is why commitments don't matter until they sign... NIL strikes ....
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Orange Phenom [14588]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:22 PM
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5 words. What took you SO LONG?
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Game Day Hero [4515]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:30 PM
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dont let the door hit you in the a@@
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Orange Blooded [2245]
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He was too much candy for a nickel. Ain’t nobody got time
Jun 14, 2022, 9:39 PM
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to be babysitting and walking on eggshells. ??
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Commissioner [923]
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That’s weak…..enjoy playing for a team that might win 7 games …..
Jun 14, 2022, 9:40 PM
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Nm
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Heisman Winner [78359]
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Maybe in the minority, but I’ve got zero
Jun 14, 2022, 9:45 PM
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emotion here.
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Don't like how he said it but we all knew this was going to happen. So bye and no good luck from me. Hope you are able to buy a decent car.
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Mascot [16]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:50 PM
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Guess he was afraid of competing and competition. He was the 1st commitment in the 2023 class but Clemson has since added another receiver/ receivers so I guess he felt like he was top dog and hadn't even played a down yet owell ,probably opened up a spot for us to get someone even better . Thanks young man, hope you don't have competition wherever you end up.
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Mascot [16]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:51 PM
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Guess he was afraid of competing and competition. He was the 1st commitment in the 2023 class but Clemson has since added another receiver/ receivers so I guess he felt like he was top dog and hadn't even played a down yet owell ,probably opened up a spot for us to get someone even better . Thanks young man, hope you don't have competition wherever you end up.
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Freshman [4]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 9:54 PM
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He's an 18 year old kid - good luck son and follow your heart. Clemson is a place in your heart and if it is not in yours then it is not the place for you.
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Rock Defender [56]
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Miami and South Florida in general…
Jun 14, 2022, 10:04 PM
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is not known for producing high character individuals. Always a risk recruiting there even before NIL deals gone wild. Accept the risk or don’t waste time recruiting there. Can’t remember the last Miami area guy that worked out for the Tigers. Mr. Ladson certainly did not.
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Top TigerNet [28017]
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Re: Miami and South Florida in general…
Jun 15, 2022, 11:59 AM
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is not known for producing high character individuals. Always a risk recruiting there even before NIL deals gone wild. Accept the risk or don’t waste time recruiting there. Can’t remember the last Miami area guy that worked out for the Tigers. Mr. Ladson certainly did not.
Cough cough.. Chris.... cough cough Chancellor cough.......
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Orange Blooded [2243]
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May be coincidental but The Athletic reported today..
Jun 14, 2022, 10:23 PM
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that a Miami supporter and Miami are being looked at by the NCAA for violating NIL rules. If the NCAA is looking, it must be egregious. I thought they didn’t care about rules.
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All-American [552]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 10:40 PM
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Good luck young man , you was NOT All In . The Tigers will be fine. For every recruit who leaves , there is 3 others who would be GRATEFUL for a scholarship. GO TIGERS !!!!
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Gridiron Giant [15955]
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That decommit announcement is terrible.
Jun 14, 2022, 10:43 PM
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That is just garbage to thank Clemson, Clemson fans, Clemson staff and the position coach specifically…to say that you were shown love day in and day out…and then to say “some things took place that me and my family didn’t like.” What things? Because that sounds like someone did something wrong.
By all means, go where you feel you belong but for goodness sake think about what you say.
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Solid Orange [1301]
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5'9" 170? Not upset
Jun 14, 2022, 11:08 PM
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Associate AD [1049]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 11:08 PM
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Decommitment feels like being dumped. It never feels good, but Joseph timed this well. Earlier, to lose him would have really stung, but he waited, checked out things again, and when we were in good shape, he decommitted. I wish him well.
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Orange Blooded [2194]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 14, 2022, 11:13 PM
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Your loss Nathaniel. Did the U promises you some gold chains or something?
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All-TigerNet [12666]
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Probably didn't like the other wr offers we
Jun 15, 2022, 12:13 AM
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We made.
5'9" bye bye.
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1st Rounder [607]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 1:25 AM
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"some things took place.." Yes, like more money from wherever he ends up - likely Miami. I guess he wants money more than he wants an ACC title and maybe a Natty....Good luck son.
He's just another guy for us and not a true difference maker.
You're either all in or you or not!
I just told my wife that that I didn't want to decommit but I just wanted to do some other visits and I would probably be back if I didn't find anything better! She said, "don't bother, your stuff will be in the yard...." She must have consulted with Dabo!
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Game Changer [1750]
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HaHa! There’s some perspective.. :)
Jun 15, 2022, 11:10 AM
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… I’m sure my wife’s reaction would be the same!
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Orange Blooded [2298]
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Which high-level WRs do we have in the pipeline
Jun 15, 2022, 5:32 AM
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I think we'll be fine, but what are our backup plans?
We used to be WRU. Not sure we still are. Things change quick in college football.
I still trust Dabo.
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Game Changer [1792]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 5:39 AM
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If it weren't for Justin Flowe going to Oregon, we likely wouldn't have Trenton Simpson. It'll all work out.
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110%er [3804]
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maybe one of those things he and his family didnt like
Jun 15, 2022, 5:59 AM
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was clemson offering another WR in the past week? what did they expect obviously clemson knew this kid was beginning to waver in his commitment.
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110%er [6166]
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Johnson will play a different position than Joseph.
Jun 15, 2022, 6:49 PM
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They would not compete with each other for playing time.
We will need at least two WRs in this class.
We will now go out and recruit another player specific to the slot position.
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All-Conference [433]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 6:38 AM
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We can now move on from Joseph. Like many here, I was tired of hearing about his possible decommitment.
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 9:39 AM
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Glad he is gone. Now we know. He was a pain in the behind.
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Orange Blooded [2585]
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Miami. ? ... lol...LOLOLOL
Jun 15, 2022, 9:44 AM
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HaaHAAAAAAAA LOLOLOLOLOL
Really ????
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Oh my.... Poor little fella.
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Freshman [-74]
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Ye$, but he and hi$ family $eem more
Jun 15, 2022, 6:29 PM
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concerned with the ca$h a$ oppo$ed to winning game$ and national championship$ and thing$ like that.
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CU Medallion [19364]
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Only a reminder that a player verbal means only as much ...
Jun 15, 2022, 10:02 AM
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As the player behind the commitment. There is now one more opportunity for a young man who prefers to be at Clemson.
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Game Changer [1727]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 10:37 AM
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Can't blame the kid. If I came from an impoverished neighborhood and had the chance to make some real money. I would have taken it too man. Sad to lose the young man but it is what it t I is....best of luck to that young man and his family.
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Freshman [4]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 10:51 AM
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Long time lurker's first post here. Like others I'm curious at what Joseph and his family didn't like? Was it the expectation of no visits after committing, NIL $? Was he the recruit Dabo made look silly with his fade away jumper?
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1st Rounder [698]
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What happened?
Jun 15, 2022, 12:32 PM
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It sounds like he got a deal to go somewhere else, is that it? Where & for how much? I haven't seen that part but if you know something let us know.
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MVP [500]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 11:03 AM
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Glad it happened honestly Felt like walking on eggshells Reminds me of losing was it Demarcus Robinson ? And ending up with Mike Williams Commitment works both ways Clemson will be fine
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Game Changer [1695]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 11:31 AM
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Good luck in the Gasparilla Bowl
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Redshirt [99]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 1:32 PM
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????????????????????????
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Standout [241]
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 2:27 PM
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shows his character (or lack of ) he will fit right in with the felons at Miami
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Associate AD [837]
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Jun 15, 2022, 4:15 PM
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Hope this young man finds what he’s looking for. Also hope he doesn’t regret this decision in a few months. I really can’t imagine having this opportunity at Clemson and passing it up you know the grass isn’t always greener!
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Letterman [290]
TigerPulse: 75%
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Re: TNET: 4-star prospect decommits from Clemson
Jun 15, 2022, 8:15 PM
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He didn't have to trash the program on his way out the door.
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National Champion [7575]
TigerPulse: 100%
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I've taken jobs specifically for the best money. NEVER WORKED OUT
Jun 16, 2022, 7:16 AM
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I hope this kid gets treated well wherever he goes. Most of us here are experienced enough to have been in his shoes. Following money.
I was corrected the other day by a wiser man when I said, Money is the root if all evil.' Before the conversation went on that man said.
"Son,... The love of money is the root of evil".
I think about that alot now and I try to insert said message in any topic pertaining to intent of pursuing a payday.
Following that love will always lead us to the wrong place.
God bless the kid but we will be fine.
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National Champion [7575]
TigerPulse: 100%
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I've taken jobs specifically for the best money. NEVER WORKED OUT
Jun 16, 2022, 7:16 AM
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I hope this kid gets treated well wherever he goes. Mist of us here are experienced enough to have been in his shoes. Following money.
I was corrected the other day by a wiser man when I said, Money is the root if all evil.' Before the conversation went on that man said.
"Son,... The love of money is the root of evil".
I think about that alit now and I try to insert said message in any topic pertaining to intent of pursuing a payday.
Following that love will always lead us to the wrong place.
God bless the kid but we will be fine.
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