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TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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They ain't wrong...
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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We are giving Dabo 8 more years to figure it out. Any one, especially these Esec shills, who think Clemson is getting rid of the GOAT Clemson coach are crazy as hale. He "aint" going anywhere. Thank goodness.
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and clemson will continue to fall
Sep 2, 2024, 12:57 PM
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further into 8-9 wins a year. butg paying a coach for the bowden era coaching
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Re: LOL.....
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We didn't win Natty's by listening to fans bitching and we're certainly not going to fire Dabo from listening to fans.
He's earned the right. I'm as frustrated as anyone but we did NOT get to where we are by listening to fans....
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Getting my popcorn ready to read the comments...***
Sep 2, 2024, 12:38 PM
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Give Riley complete control of the offense and beg Jeff Scott
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to return as WR coach the moment Grisham is relieved of his duty.
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Re: Give Riley complete control of the offense and beg Jeff Scott
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I wonder if Dabo has the fortitude to fire Grisham.
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Tommy Bowden didnt and it resulted in him being shown the door.
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Sep 2, 2024, 1:17 PM
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Dabo has made changes here and there (Austin for Luke) but are they enough? So far the answer is no.
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Re: Tommy Bowden didnt and it resulted in him being shown the door.
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You're full of crap. Dabo has fired several people Id bet he would consider friends.
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Im full of crap? Why is Grisham still there. Why does half of Dabos extended
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Sep 2, 2024, 1:49 PM
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family and friends have offices in the football building? His loyalty to certain philosophies and individuals is killing Clemson football.
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Re: Im full of crap? Why is Grisham still there. Why does half of Dabos extended
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Need I say more…
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Re: Im full of crap? Why is Grisham still there. Why does half of Dabos extended
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It’s been 4+ years of this decline, it’s not gonna change because the head coaches philosophy is not gonna change.
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Re: Give Riley complete control of the offense and beg Jeff Scott
Sep 2, 2024, 5:40 PM
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Grish has shown results in recruiting, so we could always keep him on and have him focus all his attention there. As for the WR corps, my personal observation is that we need more tangible results both on-the-field and in player-development. We've got some really great WR's that with the right touch could be exponentially more talented. Is that Jeff Scott? Maybe. Didn't hurt last time.
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NO.***
Sep 2, 2024, 6:39 PM
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Re: NO.***
Sep 2, 2024, 7:52 PM
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LOL No on recruiting Coordinator? Was trying to provide an off ramp...
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Something never said about Saban for $100 Alex.***
Sep 2, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Re: and ill add if winning 9 games a year is
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Who? Who cares what those people think
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Re: and ill add if winning 9 games a year is
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I think the majority of the Clemson fans care about reality. We want championships. His way will not produce that anymore, sadly.
I wish more people could separate Clemson from Dabo. Clemson was here before Dabo and will be here after he moves on.
Many here are bigger fans of the coach than they are their own school.
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Yes, the Dabo cult.
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There are a lot of members here. They think Dabo is next to Jesus and can do no wrong. It goes way beyond liking and respecting the man. It’s scary.
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Re: and ill add if winning 9 games a year is
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Dabo fans love his “aw shucks” personality and all he has to do is quote some Bible verses, remind everyone how he won 2 Nattys, and will go somewhere else if he’s not appreciated, and they eat it up. They cannot separate Dabo from Clemson University, which is alarming. As a fan base, thanks to Dabo, we’re now divided into those who will allow him to drive the program off the cliff, and those who want him to adapt, make necessary changes or even leave, if he refuses to do so for the better of Clemson Football.
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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Joey is my new favorite pundit.
Finebaum is still an ####.
Maybe other schools are not approaching Dabo because he is not interested and maybe his buyout is too high. Dabo IS Clemson! Dabo created a great culture at Clemson.
Go Dabo! Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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You're an idiot. No one has said they want Dabo. Go to any fan forum and find where they want to try to poach him. None. We are paying top 3 money for a coach who can only achieve mediocre results in the current CFB landscape. It's an embarrassment, and idiots like you who live 8 years in the past are the reason for it.
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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Sep 2, 2024, 2:45 PM
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Ouch. Imagine after the 2018 season there would be a world where Bama wouldn’t even consider Dabo as the next man up. Makes you wonder just how stubborn he is and what they know that we don’t.
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 2, 2024, 8:33 PM
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What they know that we don’t is whether they even talked to Dabo about the job. You’re taking Finebaum’s word that they didn’t want him??
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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You are right that Dabo’s star has dimmed considerably and we could achieve the same mediocrity for a whole lot less than we are paying the current staff.
That being said, I think this is the year that Dabo finally cleans house and gets with the program. Grisham, Goodwin, and the best RB in school history are probably gone after this season. And all the hangers-on in Jervey better dust off their resumes.
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 2, 2024, 3:20 PM
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Why would Goodwin be gone?
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Galloway is just playing a part for TV
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It makes for a better show if one of the hosts takes the other side
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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Where has that dude been? Giving time to figure it out is having birthdays.
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Well we all know Paul finebald that has never coached anything but maybe peewee knows it all lol and we all know how much he hates clemson. I want everyone that has bad things to say to go back and look we held our on until the 3rd quarter against Georgia and they say we got blown away Well also go look at some of these teams that took up to 10 or even more players from the portal that's in the top 25 or even the top 10 some only won by a touchdown against a g5 and some a fcs school but as usual clemson and Dabo or the catch all I hope we win out take the acc and meet UGA in the championship to shut up all these people.
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Give him a chance? GIVE HIM A CHANCE?!?
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We have been declining for 6 years. We’ve failed to meet preseason expectations for the last three years. Dabo has had several years to “figure it out.” He is failing so far.
Oh, excuse me, Dabo said he has never failed at anything in his life.
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Re: Give him a chance? GIVE HIM A CHANCE?!?
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Brad got 14 years TROLL!!
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Re: Give him a chance? GIVE HIM A CHANCE?!?
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You are right. But does a Clemson depend on basketball to pay the bills? I’m not so sure they do, at all.
There isn’t anything to figure out. We all know what the problems are. It’s all self inflicted.
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Our basketball team just had its best season in program history.
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Brownell’s teams almost always exceeds preseason expectations. His teams play hard, are well coached, and punch above their weight class.
And our basketball program does this without the advantages our football program has.
Guess what? Our basketball coaches embrace the transfer portal and NIL, because that’s how you excel in major college sports today.
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Re: Our basketball team just had its best season in program history.
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Adding to JK’s points above:
Since COVID, in the modern NIL and transfer portal era, one program has positive energy and is on the rise while one is in a significant downward spiral. If you look at this era, this snapshot in time, Brownell is doing a much better job than Swinney. No questions about it.
In the modern NIL and transfer portal, Coach Swinney may not even be in the top 5 coaches on Clemson’s campus. Wild to say, but true.
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And therein lies the problem . Brownell finally had a decent season
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after 14 years of misery. Wait, maybe it was the pep bands fault.
There are issues with the football team that definitely need to be fixed, and I think that Dabo can get it fixed. He’s won more national championships and acc conference championships than any coach that we’ve ever had.
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Re: Our basketball team just had its best season in program history.
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Can we wait until basketball season to extoll Brownell's coaching prowess? The team caught fire in the NCAA tournament and it was a very nice run, no doubt, but what about that BC game, what happened there?
How many regular season ACC championships has Brownell won?
How many ACC tournament championships has Brownell won?
How many Final Four appearances has Brownell had?
How many National Championship appearances has Brownell had and how many National Championships has Brownell won?
Dabo has accomplished far more than Brownell has come close to. The situation was not that rosy when Dabo took over.
I'll grant you Dabo is not adapting to the brave new world of the portal and Clemson can't compete in the NIL world, but get back to me when Brownell has won something.
This is football season. November will be here soon enough and I'll be in Littlejohn pulling for Brownell and the team.
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Re: Our basketball team just had its best season in program history.
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Let’s remember. Dabo won a conference championship the season before last. Brad can’t say that. The elite 8 was awesome and Brad deserves all the credit. Clemson just had their first sub 10 win season in 10 years.
I am fed up with this football team and something has to change but you acting like Brad is above Dabo is laughable. And I have come to like Brad.
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Re: Give him a chance? GIVE HIM A CHANCE?!?
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We have been declining for 6 years. We’ve failed to meet preseason expectations for the last three years. Dabo has had several years to “figure it out.” He is failing so far.
Oh, excuse me, Dabo said he has never failed at anything in his life.
10 wins in 2021
11 wins in 2022
How is that declining for 6 years?
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
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How long do we give because it’s going on 4 years now….
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 3, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Season before last we won an ACC Championship and were one win away from a Final Four appearance. It took Dabo changing out QB's to produce that ACC trophy, and at season's end he made a change at OC and QB coach that most believed was a major step forward.
Game One, while big and disappointing, was not the biggest game of the season by far. Those mostly happen at season's end, which we are a long way from.
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First And Foremost We Tigers Have "The" Best
College Football Coach in America..Period☝️
Now some call Dabo Stubborn....He IS Not!
He IS Fiercely Loyal to his Players...Sadly some more than they should have (DJ/Cade)
But Look Up Tigers....There's Not a Better Team on The Rest of the Schedule🌞
Coach Will Do What's Best 4 Clemson🌞
And U Can Take That 2 The Bank🌞
Hang in there Coach We Love U🌞
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LOL! Fierce loyalty in the face of evidence is stubbornness. He’s also egotistical and gaslights Clemson fans every chance he gets. I’m sure sometime this week we will get a rant about what true fans really look like or something.
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First And Foremost We Tigers Have "The" Best
College Football Coach in America..Period☝️
Now some call Dabo Stubborn....He IS Not!
He IS Fiercely Loyal to his Players...Sadly some more than they should have (DJ/Cade)
But Look Up Tigers....There's Not a Better Team on The Rest of the Schedule🌞
Coach Will Do What's Best 4 Clemson🌞
And U Can Take That 2 The Bank🌞
Hang in there Coach We Love U🌞
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Sep 2, 2024, 2:36 PM
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First And Foremost We Tigers Have "The" Best
College Football Coach in America..Period☝️
Now some call Dabo Stubborn....He IS Not!
He IS Fiercely Loyal to his Players...Sadly some more than they should have (DJ/Cade)
But Look Up Tigers....There's Not a Better Team on The Rest of the Schedule🌞
Coach Will Do What's Best 4 Clemson🌞
And U Can Take That 2 The Bank🌞
Hang in there Coach We Love U🌞
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 2, 2024, 3:04 PM
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Is that supposed to be 3 hail mary's?
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 2, 2024, 3:07 PM
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Why would as a 4* or 5* come to a program where the HC is trying to "figure it out"?
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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst on Dabo Swinney: "Give this man a chance to figure it out'
Sep 2, 2024, 6:47 PM
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There’s nothing to figure out… Everybody knows what the problem is even Dabo… The question is is he too much of a dinosaur to change his ways?
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Am now a Joey Galloway fan.
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Because he's the only head I've heard say:
1. Dabo Swinney would be welcome in ALOT of places.
2. Georgia's really, really, really, really flippin' good.
It's not like Clemson played Old Dominion Saturday. Yes, they have some things to work on and yes, some of those things are concerning.
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I agree 100% with Joey Galloway ! I always liked his perspective on College football. Dabo has WON 2 National Championship games for Clemson University and he has earned our loyalty and respect. He knows the game has changed and he will figure it out as Joey Galloway said. He is a problem solver and he knows our offense is bad right now but Georgia can make you look bad if you can't control the line of scrimmage.
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I’ve defended Dabo for the last couple of lack luster seasons bc…….
I liked his demeanor, the way he builds character in the program and seen him solve past problems to build a NC team. I’ve had confidence he can solve this……until now. I’ve lost that confidence. This offense has no imagination like in previous years. And unlike previously when Dabo would admit obvious issues he now gives us “coach” speak. He’s defensive. Not humble. We all appreciate what he’s done. But you can’t live in the past. Like some people do in politics, ignoring the present while living in the past will only lead to further decline. For three years nothing has changed, except players and a few coaches. The system these few seasons is not improving against top competition. I believe it can and will if the head man will come to grips with himself first. I hope he does it soon. Three more seasons to figure this out will be three seasons too long.
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I personally like the way Dabo runs this program. What I don’t like is some of the play calling that has happened on offense the previous three now going on four seasons. It’s complacent, predictable, and does not hold a solid defense honest. Run between the tackles for one yard, bubble screen for loss of three yards, and another bubble screen for a gain of two yards will not win football games. The play calling needs to be strategically creative in such a way that highlights the strength of the players on the field. Play calling with this many great players on the roster should create a scenario where the opposing defense has to pick their own poison. Just my lousy opinion for what it’s worth.
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Sep 3, 2024, 11:20 AM
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How is that portal thing working out for Florida State? Got something like 23 portal transfers two years ago and then lost about 28 after the season. Good cohesion there. Why does no one ever talk about that?
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