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Interesting NIL Story
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Interesting NIL Story

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Jan 20, 2025, 11:11 AM
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I found this on ESPN:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43471646/wisconsin-alleges-miami-tampered-xavier-lucas-transfer

Pretty interesting story about a player for Wisconsin that appears to have transferred to Miami without going into the Portal. He signed a NIL deal with Wisconsin, so they wouldn't let him go into the portal and are accusing Miami of tampering.

This will be an interesting case to watch as it could significantly impact NIL deals in the future.

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Likely that Whisky loses this one.


Jan 20, 2025, 11:31 AM
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They admitted in a memo that their rules don't actually prevent this. In other words, the transfer portal is a made up concept not supported by an actual rule.

Can the NCAA get any more stupid? Maybe, but they'll have to work at it.

NCAA comment on this situation...

"NCAA rules do not prevent a student-athlete from unenrolling from an institution, enrolling at a new institution and competing immediately,"
the NCAA said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.

In other words, the transfer portal is a fake concept.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/ncaa-college-football-news-ncaa-admits-major-loophole-as-xavier-lucas-attorney-slaps-wisconsin-with-clear-message/

https://www.essentiallysports.com/ncaa-college-football-news-ncaa-admits-major-loophole-as-xavier-lucas-attorney-slaps-wisconsin-with-clear-message/

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Re: Likely that Whisky loses this one.

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Jan 20, 2025, 11:37 AM
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The NCAA can only get more stupid if they put Jim Philips in charge.

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More on this...


Jan 20, 2025, 11:37 AM [ in reply to Likely that Whisky loses this one. ]
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Wisconsin is alleging tampering by Miami, based on the portal rules...that apparently don't really exist.

That's looking like it's going to be tough sledding for Wisky.

Wisky is withholding Lucas's transcripts. That sounds like a good way to lose a big federal lawsuit on one hand or to give Lucas more years of eligibility at Miami on the other.

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Re: More on this...


Jan 20, 2025, 11:47 AM
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I have an honest question because I have not dug that deep. Is there a contract for these NIL deals? And if so, does the contract state that the player gets to keep the money without playing? Or would he have to repay the money?

I really don't know and I am not trying to stir the pot

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Re: More on this...


Jan 20, 2025, 12:08 PM
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NIL contracts are year to year. The season is over. End of season and the players become free agents. The "portal" is just a made up concept that would not withstand a legal challenge. I am pretty confident that dropping out of school would void the contract. Accusing another school of tampering is certainly an NFL move.

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In addition, the Universities cannot enforce


Jan 20, 2025, 1:13 PM
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NIL contracts.

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Re: More on this...


Jan 20, 2025, 1:28 PM [ in reply to More on this... ]
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The NCAA will be the real loser on this one.

Wisconsin is either stupid (probably not) or desperate (more likely) to rely in the wet-noodle NCAA to save them from losing the player.

All that the NCAA can do to help Wisconsin is to make enough fuss to stop Miami from playing the transfer guy during the 2025 season.

When (not ‘if’) the transfer player in question challenges the NCAA portal rules in the court system, then the portal system’s restraint-of-movement rules will crash and burn.

After the NCAA loses in court, then the only benefit to the NCAA member schools from the portal will be to alert the schools about the players who have formally decided to transfer.

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Desperate.

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Jan 20, 2025, 1:55 PM
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I doubt it's going to help them.
The NCAA loses every time anyone takes them to court.

If the NCAA tries to stop this, Lucas will sue, get an injunction, and suit up in orange and green.

You're right. The NCAA sham about the portal has been exposed as the lie that it always was.

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Re: Desperate.


Jan 20, 2025, 8:58 PM
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It’s like the NCAA is attempting to stop the boat from sinking by filling buckets with water and then throwing the water back in the boat.

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Can't wait for one collective to sue another school for Tortious interference


Jan 20, 2025, 11:48 AM [ in reply to Likely that Whisky loses this one. ]
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with a contract.

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NIL contracts can't be tied to anyone school.

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Jan 20, 2025, 1:15 PM
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The Wisky collective can cancel Lucas' contract but that's about all they can dom

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If someone is interfering with your contract, why couldn't you sue them?


Jan 20, 2025, 3:45 PM
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All this meddling with signed athletes needs to stop

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Re: If someone is interfering with your contract, why couldn't you sue them?


Jan 20, 2025, 9:08 PM
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Part of the problem is proving the damages that are suffered by the Wisky NIL group. Whisky’s NIL group doesn’t have to make the payment; if they’ve already made a payment before the signee cough cough provided the NIL group with tangible benefit. In other words, if no advertisements or personal appearances had happened using the not-yet-departed signee, then (depending upon how the NIL contract was structured) maybe the Wisky NIL group could recover that part of the NIL that they had already paid.

The player won’t pay a dime if he owes the Wisky NIL group for non-performance for paid services. Miami will pay that penalty on behalf of the recruit.

The Wisky NIL group would be challenged to establish how much their businesses were harmed. No way that Wisky will want the courts digging into their NIL farce.

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Jan 20, 2025, 11:42 AM
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Should come down to the language in the “contract “. If there really is a contract and it is not upheld then it sounds like there can’t be any enforceable rules regarding transfers. I guess next step will be in-season transfers that want to play right away?

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The 4 major sports have that, so why not college?******


Jan 20, 2025, 1:15 PM
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No they don't


Jan 20, 2025, 2:08 PM
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The only way you change teams is to be traded or released from a contract. No player can just quit the Browns and sign with the Chiefs

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Jan 20, 2025, 1:35 PM
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This is a really slippery slope. I don’t think many people know what all really happened. I certainly don’t. But I heard he signed an NIL deal with Wisconsin (collective) then wanted to go to Miami. I don’t know if he was trying to keep all the money. I would assume an NIL deal is for the future and not for the past. God only knows what Wisconsin is claiming Miami did. Crazy times.

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Jan 20, 2025, 2:46 PM
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Miami cheating? I'm shocked... they would NEVER!

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