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If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:30 PM
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Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin plus zinc, These three combination drugs may work, especially in the first stage. Do not be fooled by the politicians.
If you have any symptoms, take hydroxychloroquine immediately even before the test. Data from other countries has shown hydroxychloroquine is effective
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:37 PM
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Yeah and the moon is made of cheese.
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Orange Phenom [14700]
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 10:06 PM
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of course it works. always has
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CU Guru [1020]
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You are right...it's excellent to clean your aquariums with***
Aug 1, 2020, 10:11 PM
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Game Changer [1699]
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I see that both of those publications need fact-checking
Aug 2, 2020, 3:02 AM
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From NewsGuardTech.com:
truepundit.com
A website that has frequently promoted conspiracy theories and false
information, including about the COVID-19 pandemic.
Proceed with caution: This
website severely violates basic
journalistic standards.
Ownership or Financing
True Pundit does not disclose who owns or operates
the site. BuzzFeed reported in August 2018 that the site
is owned and operated by a Pennsylvania man named
Michael Moore (not the U.S. filmmaker Michael Moore),
who goes by the name “Thomas Paine” on
TruePundit.com. Moore did not respond to BuzzFeed’s
requests for comment but published a story on his
website in August 2018 that confirmed his identity.
The site’s Twitter account says that True Pundit “is a Philadelphia-based
conservative news organization.”
From MediaBiasFactCheck.com:
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Investment Watch Blog does publish real news, however they also publish conspiracy news and some scientifically questionable articles. This source is not that bad, but a fact check is advised when reading their information. This source tends to have a right wing bias. (D. Van Zandt 12/8/2016)
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110%er [6821]
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But all still better than ABC, NBC, CBS, and Huffington Post...***
Aug 2, 2020, 6:43 AM
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Ring of Honor [21305]
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Re: But all still better than ABC, NBC, CBS, and Huffington Post...***
Aug 2, 2020, 7:02 AM
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You mean publications that do not even tell you who owns them, write under pseudonyms and refuse to release their own actual identities so as to shield themselves from any accountability, and have repeatedly bombed fact checks are better than actual accredited news organizations because they tell you what you want to hear?
C'mon. The real media isn't perfect - after the Trump administration is over, the press probably needs to face a lengthy inquest and postmortem exam about how exactly their own inherent bias and tendency towards sensationalism created the very daylight that allows Alt-Right hacks exactly like these to exist in the first place - but flawed or not, the Alt-Right media exists largely to repudiate and re-spin actual media, not report actual news of their own.
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110%er [6821]
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I see your point, and even agree somewhat, BUT....
Aug 2, 2020, 3:57 PM
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...at least they aren't openly sympathetic to communism...
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Re: Since we never landed on it, who knows what it's made of?***
Aug 2, 2020, 6:13 AM
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Oh, Good God.
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Re: Since we never landed on it, who knows what it's made of?***
Aug 2, 2020, 4:27 PM
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landing on the moon flies in the face of the notion that our government is inept and incapable of any sort of major accomplishment. In reality it was a great example of private/ public collaboration where patents did not get suppressed and companies like texas instruments shared technology with collaborating companies. We can thank the moon landing for the development of the modern transistor, and eventually the first microprocessors because they needed a navigation computer that weighed less than 70 lbs.
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Playmaker [396]
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:38 PM
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Are there any doctors in the upstate who will actually prescribe?
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CU Guru [1020]
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:50 PM
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Athletic Dir [881]
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I know some doctors who worry about malpractice
Aug 2, 2020, 12:28 AM
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liability with it. The FDA now says don't prescribe it for COVID, listing an array of safety concerns. When a doctor prescribes it anyway, he is at significant risk.
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:38 PM
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Are there any doctors in the upstate who will actually prescribe?
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Playmaker [396]
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:38 PM
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Are there any doctors in the upstate who will actually prescribe?
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Recruit [82]
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We should push hydroxychloroquine over the counter
Aug 1, 2020, 9:43 PM
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It only costs $11 or less, but it can save lives
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:43 PM
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And if it doesn't,or there is not enough to go around,or it causes the guy sitting shoulder to shoulder next to you to develop a rash,what are you going to do?
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 9:53 PM
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I am about to find out. I started on these drugs today. I took the test Friday will get results Monday. Prayers neeeded. Thanks
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 10:15 PM
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Can you get TheRump to tell us where we can get the medications made from the blood of aliens? I think that would be better than hydroxy.
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 1, 2020, 10:16 PM
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Can you get TheRump to tell us where we can get the medications made from the blood of aliens? I think that would be better than hydroxy.
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Orange Phenom [14180]
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Well for you hydroxi naysayers who are letting your politics
Aug 1, 2020, 11:01 PM
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infect your brain - maybe you ought to read this from Dr. Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD, Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health. This guy ain't a quack and is following the science instead of the politics.
https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535
There are too many doctors who have come forward saying they are having success in treating patients with a hydroxychloroquine regimen for it to be ignored/shunned simply because of "orange man likes it".
If I were to get ill with COVID-19 you can bet your sweet a$$ I'd be asking my Doctor for the Hydroxichloroquine/Z-Pac/Zinc regimen...
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Orange Blooded [2203]
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Re: Well for you hydroxi naysayers who are letting your politics
Aug 1, 2020, 11:33 PM
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Hey don't let fact get in the of a good story.
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Even the left doesn't believe the left anymore
Aug 2, 2020, 9:36 AM
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsweek/ Newsweek - Media Bias/Fact Check LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources. Overall, we rate Newsweek Left Biased based on story selection that favors the left and Mixed for factual reporting due to multiple failed fact checks by IFCN fact-checkers. Detailed Report Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180 History Newsweek was founded by Thomas J. C. Martyn in 1933, as a weekly magazine headquartered in New York City. Today, Newsweek is a news magazine and website, which covers news and analysis, international issues, technology, business, culture, and politics. Newsweek was bought by The Washington Post Company in 1961 and eventually sold to audio magnate Sidney Harman in 2010. The Daily Beast and Newsweek then merged in a joint venture and was named The Newsweek Daily Beast Company, which lasted for 2 years. In 2013, Etienne Uzac and Johnathan Davis acquired Newsweek and IBT Media, re-branding itself as Newsweek Media Group in [...]
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Re: Even the left doesn't believe the left anymore
Aug 2, 2020, 9:57 AM
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You do realize that not all news is the same, right, and repudiating one does not repudiate them all?
Newsweek used to be owned by Washington Post...but it was sold for one dollar - repeat, $1! - back in 2010. It's a zombie...still shuffling around making noises, but it hasn't been alive as an actual news entity in a long time.
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Re: Here's the DC doctor press conf. youtube quickly deleted
Aug 2, 2020, 7:08 AM
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Nutcases on a nutcase website. InfoWars..lol
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I wish that was true, but it doesn't seem to be
Aug 2, 2020, 9:42 AM
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based on the clinical trials. If it was true, everyone would be on board even the dumbazs bureaucrats.
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Legend [6938]
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Re: I wish that was true, but it doesn't seem to be
Aug 2, 2020, 8:02 PM
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seems to be - friend who has daughter working NYC as a nurse said it was very effective. Another in Birmingham saying the same thing.
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 2, 2020, 9:45 AM
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I’ll just run right over to the local CVS and pick some up.
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Aug 2, 2020, 12:20 PM
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I have read many medical studies and articles about HC. Very confusing unless one is trained in medicine and statistics. In my opinion the most sane writer is Dr Harvey Risch, a highly qualified medical doctor from Yale. As with almost any controversial subject, you need to ask yourself who is making the money. No one recommending HC is making money. They are only being criticized. I tend to trust those who don’t have a financial interest in a particular therapy. I don’t think there is much downside to taking low dose prophylactic HC and zinc or taking a full 5 Day course of HC, zinc, and Zpak for a positive test and/or mild symptoms. My HC prescription cost $3.00, Zpak $5.00. Bottle of OTC zinc is about $7.00 on Amazon. As always, consult your health provider first.
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 2, 2020, 2:11 PM
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Do I think the African frontline doc lady is a looney tunes? Yes, that’s my opinion. Does that mean hydroxy has no value in treating covid? Not necessarily. Fauci is not a believer in hydroxy. Dr. Harvey Risch is 100% a believer. Risch is a leading epidemiologist in the US, and he is convinced and has stated the use of the “hydroxy cocktail” for prophylaxis and early treatment would’ve reduced covid mortality in the US by 50%. Does that mean it’s a cure...no, but that’s almost 80,000 dead people who would still be alive IF he is right. Emphasis on “IF.” Is it ok in this country to believe Fauci and think hydroxy is snake oil for covid? Yes. Is it ok to believe Risch and think it’s crazy not to try hydroxy if you catch the virus? I say Yes. Why don’t we stop letting politicians divide us along stupid political ideologies for a change, and by all means do what is best for us individually, and our families? This is not a dadgum Democrat vs Repub issue so please just stop it!
I personally take zinc daily because zinc inhibits the RNA polymerase nsp12, which catalyzes the synthesis of viral RNA. I also eat lots of foods containing the natural zinc ionophore quercitin, like grapes, red wine, elderberry tea, and so forth. I also bought a supply of natural quercetin just in case I get the virus and my doc won’t prescribe hydroxy. I didn’t do any of this bc I’m left or right. See I’ve made a decision for my health based on hours of study and research. It has NOTHING to do with orange man. Do research folks and be engaged with your doctor about what is right for you and your health. A one size fits all approach can never be right from a health and medical standpoint in my opinion. And politics absolutely should not enter into health care. Please Stop letting political ideology divide us on every aspect is life. Be safe out there proud American Tiger fans!
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Re: If Hydroxychloroquine works, we can have football on time
Aug 2, 2020, 5:05 PM
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Just curious why you think the African doctor is looney? Just asking.
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TigerNet Champion [118115]
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Mostly the words that come out of her mouth
Aug 2, 2020, 5:12 PM
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She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.
and She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.
hopefully that clears it up
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Mostly the words that come out of her mouth
Aug 2, 2020, 5:32 PM
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Where did you get that? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I would just like to research it.
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Re: ^^^^ This Tardog***
Aug 2, 2020, 8:45 PM
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I only listened to a couple minutes because I just can’t do an hour with that accent. Just can’t follow her. But I would ask a question for all to consider. Is it possible that her spiritual beliefs can be way, way out there and yet her Covid treatments with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and z pack can still be credible? I know some doctors I consider crazy as a football bat but they are pretty darn good docs.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: ^^^^ This Tardog***
Aug 2, 2020, 9:10 PM
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Absolutely. Her results mirror those of the Jewish doctor Vladimir Zelenograd in NY City who reported the exact same positive results quite some time ago. I think it was back in March or April. I found nothing about him to be looney either.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Oops Vladimir Zelenko***
Aug 2, 2020, 9:12 PM
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Athletic Dir [881]
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Problem with Zelenko was
Aug 3, 2020, 12:03 AM
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he had not actually seen any patients because he was in isolation in NJ and had claimed to cure way more in the NY county than there were reported cases. That’s why nobody has mentioned him since April.
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Re: ^^^^ This Tardog***
Aug 2, 2020, 9:14 PM
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so we have a witch doctor in Africa saying one thing, and the world's leading virologists saying something entirely different. I mean if you were a betting man, and were going with you gut on this, who are you going to trust?
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Re: ^^^^ This Tardog***
Aug 2, 2020, 9:57 PM
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That’s obvious. I think his question was... is it possible the crazy witch doctor was accurately reporting the case study summary statistics of her hydroxy patients? But to your question, you are 100% accurate. No way I’d wait until I was very sick with covid and take 2400 mg monster doses of hydroxy. I’m listening to these virologists. We know what happened with the veterans in that study...right? I believe them and the trials on that. Harvey Risch, on the other hand, is no witch doctor. He’s quite respected and one of the top epidemiologists in the world. When he says a much smaller dose taken with zinc as prophylactic or at first onset of symptoms will reduce mortality by as much as 50%, well I don’t have a problem with folks considering that. Zelenko and many other docs, including the other seemingly non-looney frontline docs in the video and around the world are convinced the early treatment regimen works. Now if we can get some large trials which accurately reflect the early treatment and/or prophylactic approach we’ll know more. I personally think the UCLA doc on the frontline video sums this hydroxy evidence up about as accurately as you can, as well as the doctor-patient relationship and rights to determine best individuals treatment.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98550]
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You can't buy HCQ on the street yet.
Aug 2, 2020, 10:12 PM
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You need a doctor to write for you if you want HCQ and Z-pak.
Those studies of HCQ are being tried on hospital patients. That alone eliminates any possibility of fairness and honesty due to the patients being advanced and no mention of zinc and Z-pak involvement.
If you set about to prove HCQ doesn't work then ensure that it's given alone and to advance cases. Apples to oranges and nothing close to science.
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But those are opinion pieces (letter to editor)
Aug 3, 2020, 2:03 AM
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There’s a difference. I review a lot of journal articles, at least to me-probably one a month. Not because I do a good job at it, but because I return the reviews on time. I can testify that some peer-reviewed articles had at least one half-assed review because I’ve written more than one. That’s why you typically have 2-3 reviewers, hoping that one is trying. So peer-reviewed stuff is generally better than opinion, but it’s not perfect.
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I think it did well in exposing the inherent skew of the
Aug 3, 2020, 2:14 AM
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numbers, not that it was intentional... 'This in, that out' doesn't seem to be a solid methodology... That is an oversimplification but somewhat what I thought prior to reading the review.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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It’s all a mess of confusion
Aug 3, 2020, 2:25 AM
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The medical stuff is so uncertain to start with. Most of the pro-hydroxy studies have already eliminated most of the at-risk patients, so are there good results because it worked or because the patients you selected were more likely to recover anyway. And a lot of the anti- studies chose patients who were too far along. The letter writers seemed to want people who had never been exposed before taking HQ, but then were exposed, to be the basis. We don’t do that sort of research in the western world (except the military sometimes).
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Clemson Icon [26669]
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Totally agree... I've posted it before, so don't know if you
Aug 3, 2020, 2:35 AM
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caught it, but I ordered Chloroquine out of India via Taiwan 2-3 weeks before T-Rump ever mentioned it. I read hours worth of research and theory and figured it would be better to have it than not... Two or three symptoms and I'm headed for a test. Positive and I'm starting a 5-7 day regimen...
From everything I've read, the Chloroquine or Hydroxy is the vehicle and the Zinc is the 'jump boys' (to use an analogy from recent news)...
There's absolutely nothing political in my assessment.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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I knew the in-vitro tests from 2003
Aug 3, 2020, 3:16 AM
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showed some promise, but it’s obvious why those usually don’t work (chemical/drug doesn’t make it to the site unaltered). I’m still very cautious for the most part at 57 but I don’t have any of the quinolone drugs/aquarium cleaners. I’ve taken zinc to ward off colds for over 20 years, so that’s not a new thing.
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Bold statement from such a new account...
Aug 2, 2020, 9:12 PM
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On the surface this is a total
Troll
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