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If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:36 PM
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With our current players what would the line on the game be? Also what percentage would you say Clemson’s chance to win would be? I would say Clemson by 12 and a solid 95% Clemson wins and maybe higher. Anyways GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:37 PM
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DW4 in his sophomore year would have probably had about same results Cade will have.
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You high?***
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:39 PM
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:49 PM
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You’re crazy DW4 was crazy crazy special from his very 1st drive against Georgia his freshman year. Deshaun consistently drop throws into tight windows. If I had a choice of freshman deshaun vs Cade I would take deshaun a 100 times over. Nothing against and I love him and pray he has a very very successful career but the 2 are light years apart.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 19, 2023, 6:58 AM
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That why he threw so many interceptions into those Tight Windows
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People forget he had multiple other drives at UGA
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Sep 19, 2023, 7:02 AM
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but didn’t score then. All they remember is the first pass. Selective memories are bad for betting.
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Umm, sorry but no.
Sep 18, 2023, 10:00 PM
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Cade in his sophomore year is not even as poised and purely gifted as Deshaun showed as a true freshman.
That’s not to say we can’t ride Cade to the playoffs, but he’s not remotely as good as DW was at this point in his career. Not even close really.
Maybe we’re misunderstanding what you meant?
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 10:32 PM
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DW4 in his sophomore year would have probably had about same results Cade will have.
Are you insane? We went 14-1 his sophomore year and he threw for 400 yards against Bama in a game we should have won had Green and Kearse showed up in the secondary. Have you ever watched Clemson football before this year?
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 19, 2023, 3:50 PM
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Not to mention the special teams eph ups and MacKenzie Alexander injury, he was Superman out there vs a team of future 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round NFL draft selections
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 19, 2023, 9:09 AM
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Stop comparing those 2 QBs Cade isn't sexual predator. I see Cade more of a T Law or Boyd if Riley opens up the playbook.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 19, 2023, 3:42 PM
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The only sexual predators were those hookers looking for a cash grab—
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:38 PM
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DW4 was special not many like him. One of the best if not the best to ever put on a clemson uniform!
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 19, 2023, 9:11 AM
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Not true he isn't even the best black QB Clemson had cause that was Homer Jordan.
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I would take DW4 every time.***
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Re: I would take DW4 every time.***
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:47 PM
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The area sophomore dw4 has on Cade is poise.
But I can honestly say Cade may have a higher ceiling.
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LMAO!***
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:52 PM
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Troll on, Krump.
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:57 PM
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Brad sucks ballz. Maybe you’ll give up the troll charade when he’s FINALLY let go this upcoming season?
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Re: LMAO!***
Sep 18, 2023, 10:24 PM
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It was great to finally see him through one long straight down field and get a TD to go with it. I know that would be hard to do against Fla S. but it would give their defense something else to think about.
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I think that comparison would rub Deshaun the wrong way.***
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:54 PM
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Re: I think that comparison would rub Deshaun the wrong way.***
Sep 18, 2023, 10:35 PM
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😂
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We wouldve made the playoffs the last two seasons if DW or TL was QB.
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:55 PM
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The issue hasn’t been a team or program collapse. It was the DJ era, period.
Still 13th and 14th though, but yeah, Trevor or Deshaun would have been more than enough to extend the nations 2nd best playoff history. As it is, we’re still 2nd in playoff numbers.
Let’s go Tigers!
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Re: We wouldve made the playoffs the last two seasons if DW or TL was QB.
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Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM
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Can’t blame DJ anymore. This is Cade’s team now. We will learn a lot about our team and our QB this Saturday and also have a better idea of where we really are as a program.
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Who mentioned this season?
Sep 18, 2023, 10:58 PM
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But since you brought it up, Cade is much better than DJ was as a junior let alone a sophomore. And this is a better team than either of the last two years as well.
You’re kinda weird dude. It’s like you wanna write off the season already.
Man up dude!
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Ill man up and say I misread the end of your post.
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Sep 18, 2023, 10:59 PM
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My apologies
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Re: Ill man up and say I misread the end of your post.
Sep 19, 2023, 3:30 PM
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No worries, Ship happens  At least I hope "Ship happens" to show up big on Saturday!
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I'm not convinced at all that this team is better
Sep 19, 2023, 8:23 AM
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than last years team. If it is better the improvement has been defensively. Our offense started out OK last year and didn't really start having major issues until the Cuse game. We've had major issues right out of the gate this year.
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Oh and I forgot to mention special teams
Sep 19, 2023, 8:38 AM
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Place kicking alone is probably costing us a few points per game right now vs where we would be with Potter.
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Re: I'm not convinced at all that this team is better
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Sep 19, 2023, 2:54 PM
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All you have to do is watch the last game where Brown go's up and highpoint the ball. Never saw any of that last year.
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Not sure how anyone can not see it?
Sep 19, 2023, 3:06 PM
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We’re 20th in offense, 8th in defense, and 9th least penalized team with the 13th ranked SOS.
We never reached those heights last year.
Cade is growing in his game speed control, and he’s light years better than DJ.
You’re thinking we’re gonna lose 4 again?
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We're not actually 20th in offense I can
Sep 19, 2023, 3:35 PM
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promise you that. Total offense is a trash stat, especially at this point in the season. Much better metrics have been developed for evaluating performance.
We went 11-3 last year. It's gonna take alot of work to match that this year. The schedule is more difficult and we've already lost one.
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Re: We wouldve made the playoffs the last two seasons if DW or TL was QB.
Sep 19, 2023, 9:14 AM
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That's a half truth we would have made playoffs last year if Dabo started Cade in second half against the Roosters. It was tough missing out of playoffs by one point loss. Clemson would have knocked TCU out of playoffs specially after their BIG 12 title loss to KSU.
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We couldn't beat Tenn but we would've
Sep 19, 2023, 3:43 PM
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beaten a playoff team had we gotten in. Yall are funny.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
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Sep 18, 2023, 9:59 PM
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Deshauns pocket presence is insane. We wouldn’t lose a single game this year.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 18, 2023, 10:52 PM
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Yep he had eyes in the back of his head and in both ears. He was a ghost in the pocket and an incredible open field runner.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 18, 2023, 10:21 PM
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Sounds like some of you have been drinking too much of the Orange Kool Aid. Cade is no where near Deshaun's level at any point during Deshaun's career here at Clemson. I honestly don't think he will ever be near Deshaun's level either. Deshaun was a very special player and I believe he may have been one of the best, if not the best to ever put on the Clemson uniform. That guy had ice water flowing through he veins. He could make a mistake and he wouldn't make that same mistake again. I always felt like we could win when he was playing.
Cade just needs to be Cade and not Deshaun or Trevor. He is never going to be them. Can he be great, I don't know just yet. Does he have the potential? I'm sure he does, but he has to settle down. He can start to show his true potential by coming away with a victory this weekend.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 18, 2023, 10:48 PM
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I couldn’t agree more. When DW4 was behind center I genuinely thought we had a shot at every single game we played regardless of how good or bad the defense played. I felt good about Trevor in 2018 but I would be lying if I wasn’t slightly concerned about the game against Tua and Bama that year.
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 19, 2023, 9:17 AM
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Cade my never be DW4. But DW4 was never close to being T Law. Cade can grow more into T Law he's good the arm just missing the WRs side of it. OC is gradually opening up the playbook.
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Not much more of a chance than
Sep 18, 2023, 10:44 PM
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We have now. Cade was in the run from the FAU defensive line almost every pass play. Watsowould be kn the run also.
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Re: Not much more of a chance than
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I think Deshaun is the best QB ever at Clemson. Trevor a close 2nd. Deshaun never gave up. The 1st two playoff games against Bama he played incredible.
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Re: Not much more of a chance than
Sep 19, 2023, 9:21 AM
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T Law and Homer were better QBs that Deshaun. Cole Stoudt was the QB that never gave up he played hurt most of his senior season. Chad just kept trying to get him to run DW plays which didn't work. After DW surgery Cole got one last game and new OCs ran Cole plays and he dominated the bowl game in blowout. Can't remember the team think it was OU.
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DW4 From Last Night vs Pitt...I Think I Would Take Cade***
Sep 19, 2023, 3:13 PM
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Re: If DW4 was our qb this Saturday
Sep 19, 2023, 3:45 PM
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he'd probably break a few of his fingers, cuz he kept sticking 'em in
facemasks last night.
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Dont think you can compare at this point. Watson
Sep 19, 2023, 3:46 PM
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was surrounded by better WR threats for sure. Also Watson benefited from starting 8 games his FR year. Cade wasn’t afforded that opportunity- though he should have been(at least a few more). Cade is on his 5th start total while DW was on his 12th at this point. That is a huge difference in a qbs progression/development. I’ll say this, Soph year Watson was faced with a similar 4th game. #6 ND was coming to town. Obviously a heavy rain game but Watson was 10-21 for 84 yds and 2 Tds/ 1 INT and 16 rushes for 93 yds. Escaped with a W but that was largely by the D and rushing game. The week before - game 3 of his SO season, he escaped Louisville(unranked) with a 20-17 win 199 yds passing, 32 rushing 2TDs/2 INTs. He started playing much better towards the end of his SO season. He had flashes and performed really well in his FR for being a FR but certainly didn’t have the weight/expectations on his shoulders to the tune Cade does. I expect Cade to continue to improve. I expect to see him to be used more in the running game to give Ds something else to consider. I have no idea what his ceiling is, and we won’t know until it’s in our rearview mirror. He could also end up as good or better than DW but that doesn’t mean we are guaranteed any championships. The road has gotten tougher, the supporting cast has changed, and next year the playoff format changes as well.
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