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Ring of Honor [22002]
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I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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But you don't fire a coach at Clemson after winning 27 games, even if the ACC was putrid this year.
I'm not sure why, but we played tight in all 3 postseason games. No offensive continuity at all. The only time we played close to what we had most of the year was when we basically played havoc and pressed 94 feet at the end of the Louisville and McNese games. Just played, didn't think. With a veteran team, I expected us to play poised, we didn't.
Why? As much as I love what Chase and Ian brought to the table, and they were our best players, neither were true star players. In the tourney, you need true stars, or a guy who just gets hot like Chase last year or Devoe a few years back. Someone who can hit the shots that keep you in games. We didn't have that. Let's face it, we've rarely if ever had that. Hence, our history.
At the end of the day, I'm not going to complain about 27 wins, or Brad getting extended. The team is full of question marks for next year, but with the portal, holes are filled quickly. And we'll definitely need to bring in a few studs.
We're losing by Clemson standards two class guys who gave their all and became very good players, plus some other guys who had good years. We'll also likely lose some guys to the portal.
I like some pieces returning, like Jones and Dillon. I'm very interested to see Dallas Thomas. But next year is a huge question mark as of now, let's see what the portal giveth.
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Well said and agree - thanks.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Great post as usual striper. I don't think anyone legitimately thinks we should fire Brownell. But like me, I think many think we may need to dial back any excessive increases in his salary. He really failed in having this team ready to play when it mattered most and the years they did do well in postseason are way more outliers than the rule over his 15 years here.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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I don't think we should fire Brownell. I legitimately think Clemson should have fired Brownell years ago.
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But we didnt
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:17 AM
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And you sure aren't doing it after winning 76 games the last 3 years
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NCSU just did it after winning ACCT and Final Four
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just last year. They hired the coach that just whipped us and has taken 3 teams to NCAAT. The one who just got the team’s first NCAAT win in history vs our winningest coach.
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Orange Blooded [2265]
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Re: But we didnt
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Of course not. But he does not deserve a contract extension or need a buy-out. No other school is going to hire him.
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Indiana wanted to.***
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:14 PM
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No, they did not.
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Re: Indiana wanted to.***
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The coach did not have his team prepared. That’s on Brad. He got outcoached. He was very distracted with the Indiana thing and it showed. It is what it is. People seem complacent with the program and looks like Brad has a lifetime contract.
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Re: Indiana wanted to.***
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The coach did not have his team prepared. That’s on Brad. He got outcoached. He was very distracted with the Indiana thing and it showed. It is what it is. People seem complacent with the program and looks like Brad has a lifetime contract.
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Re: But we didnt
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:11 PM
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And you sure aren't doing it after winning 76 games the last 3 years
Some hoped for a new start because a desirable program would make 76 wins in 3 yrs worth an offer he’d accept. The Tigers are married to Brownell. For us Catholics that’s a covenant not a contract. Annulments are complicated, so he’s our coach for better or worse until death do we part.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Unfortunately I have to say I don’t expect the records and ACC championships and NCAA results to be any better the next 5 than they have the last 5.
Hopefully I am wrong but I have been watching Clemson basketball since it first came on the ACC network in about 1962. There’s nothing to give me any confidence the next 5 years will be great. Just more of the same.
The GRIT is good but it seems the program and players and cost are missing the joy of playing and winning. Except for getting paid.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Coaches not cost. Dang spellcheck!
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Totally agree. This should be POTD!
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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I agree to all points you made all I want Clemson to do is get better every year and we didn’t do that this year. Don’t know if it was coaching or players either way let’s get over it and move on. Not one person on here can change the outcome we have had this year let’s talk about the upcoming football season and the goal’s ahead for them.
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Yep, this was a great season, without a doubt. But, there always seems to be a
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"but" in Clemson basketball. I don't know exactly what that is, BUT our team was not prepared, at least not as prepared as our competition, in post-season. Yes, I gained respect for Brownell this season, and there is no way you fire a coach after a season like this, BUT here we are, an undeniably great season and great Clemson team, up in flames and a total, humiliating collapse at the very end. It seems to be the curse of Clemson basketball, and I can't blame that on coach Brownell. All I can do is hope - like I always have.
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Ring of Honor [22002]
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We have been the doormat of the ACC for 76 years
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in hoops. The league has slipped, and we've made our way to the upper echelon the last 3 years. But as Dabo is fond of saying, it comes down to the Jimmy's and Joe's. We've never been elite there. We've had some dang good players, but never a transformational one, unless you look at Skip Wise, and we all know that story.
Last year we played with a chip on our shoulder, this year we had big expectations. Our best tourney runs have always been with that chip there. Some teams just press when expectations are high, sadly, that's what I saw this year once we hit the postseason.
Just once, I'd love to see us get that one guy who can truly carry a team. But we know where those guys normally wind up.
After yesterday though, I do know we need alot more athleticism for next year.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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They were fun to watch most of the year. There were a few bad games during the season but showing up as “flat” and uninspired as we did for the tournament games is a real head scratcher.
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Almost like it's coaching...
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Yesterday was an embarassment. today it still is. twice in 15 years making it past round 1 is not acceptable. Hunter admitted that they werent prepared yesterday and that is 100% on BRAD ! If any of us had performed at our jobs like that we would be held accountable and probably fired today. Instead clemsom was dumb enough to reward him with 6 more years.doesnt matter who he brings in from portal, recruiting class, etc, they will underachieve and regress under Brownell. Will Wade exposed Brads lack of coaching skill yesterday in a big way. No other reputable school that is serious about winning would put up with this failure for 15 years must less tack on 6 more???Clemson needs to stop wasting money in any more facility upgrades for basketball until they hire a real coach. Give the money to baseball and football. If you arent upset after this and hearing Hunters post game comments then you truly dont love and care about CLEMSON.
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Ring of Honor [22002]
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A 6th year senior shouldn't need His coach to have him
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prepared to play with his hair on fire. Chase is a very good player, but he's not a great one. The last month of the year, he made careless errors with the ball and just seemed to be forcing things.
As a team the motion that defined our offense disappeared these last 3 games. I don't think Brad changed that, the players just didn't execute. They played tight. We just didn't have the continuity we had to have with our lack of true stars.
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Re: A 6th year senior shouldn't need His coach to have him
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I think when Chase plays best in when he is confident ...... like most players. However, for some reason, his body language for the last month has been different, like he is just not very confident in his shot or driving ability. We would see flashes of it, but not the sustained play with it.
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Re: A 6th year senior shouldn't need His coach to have him
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^^^^^^ THIS!!!! ^^^^^
Spot on TigerLinks®. I first attributed it to the calf injury, but he has been so tentative. More than a few times I would yell at the TV “SHOOT THE DAMB BALL!!!” Aaarrgghh!!! Then yday, to see him open for a 3 on a half dozen occasions, only to hesitate, then dribble into the defender/away from the shot/or pass the ball…. wth?
Anyway, I am in total agreement with you.
Bottom line though is that I am truly sad to see two of Clemson’s greatest - to include Schieffelin(sp?)- have their careers here end on such a sour note.
Oh well.
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Agree with you, he wont and shouldnt be fired.
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Disagree that we should’ve extended him 6 years. I get it’s Clemson basketball. But if you don’t dream big you won’t achieve big. I think we need to quit accepting mediocrity. Should’ve taken advantage while the acc is down and he’s the most stable now one of the highest paid. Shouldn’t have lost to Memphis, GT, USC, Louisville, and mcneese. Win a couple of those and extend all you want.
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Re: Agree with you, he wont and shouldnt be fired.
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With our players you are not going to be 30-3 as you suggest should have happened. I'd bet if Jon Scheyer had been our coach we'd have done no better. I can't wait to see how many we have in 1st and 2nd round of NBA draft. I predict it will be zero.
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No one will be drafted from this senior class
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Chase, Ian and Victor all should have nice careers overseas.
We've had 7 first round picks in our history. Duke could have that off of this year's roster
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They play like a Monte Lee baseball team.
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:31 AM
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And making a change there has worked wonders so far.
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Monte's last teams were bad
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this team wasn't. They played poorly. But that's not even a close comparison, especially considering the status of the two programs
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Are we sure about that???***
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Clemson baseball has the equivalent of 8 final fours
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and numerous Sweet 16's. Yes, I'm pretty sure
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Okay. I didnt know we were comparing to historical results.
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With all due respect to you, I’ll still disagree though.
I thought Monte’s teams were really talented and always gave us hope that they could be great. But they played tight, and it became evident they would never advance under Monte. I believe he did miss the tournament toward the end, but he was competing in a pretty loaded ACC.
Brad had a great record this year against a bad ACC (and overrated Kentucky). In my eyes, that’s the only real difference.
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So you actually think Clemson basketball is loaded
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:57 AM
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with super, talented players? First round picks? Who are they?
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Re: So you actually think Clemson basketball is loaded
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That’s not exactly what I said about basketball or baseball.
Talented and capable of winning? Yes.
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Re: So you actually think Clemson basketball is loaded
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Our highest rated player just finished a RS season and has played a total of 28 minutes in two years. Recruiting miss or development fail?
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I'm thinking you're referring to Thomas
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who is our highest rated recruit. He's been here just his RS year and weighed 170 lbs at 6'8 when he arrived. No way he was playing this year
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Re: I'm thinking you're referring to Thomas
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https://clemsontigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/asa-thomas/
I believe this is his second year on campus. Per 247 he enrolled in September of 2023. So that was his true freshman year and he did not play at all. This is his redshirt year and he played 28 minutes. That’s 2 seasons in Brownell’s system and he is still not ready to play.
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247 is wrong
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Mar 21, 2025, 5:32 PM
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He was the headliner in last years recruiting class
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That is incorrect.
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Thomas is just finishing his freshman season, which was a redshirt year.
He was part of our top 25 recruiting class in 2024.
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Re: That is incorrect.
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So Brad signed no one in 2023?
https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-basketball/player/asa-thomas-159
Tigernet says he was here in 2023-24 but had surgery.
He’s listed as part of the team 2023-24 on the official Clemson website.
So he’s taking a medical redshirt, plus a redshirt, and may be ready to play by 25-26?
What about the two 4*s besides Del Jones? Where is the roster management and who is responsible since God knows it won’t be Brad?
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Viz, it says right there
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signed in 24-25
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You're looking at Asa Thomas, not Dallas Thomas***
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Re: You're looking at Asa Thomas, not Dallas Thomas***
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That’s who I was talking about - sorry for the confusion. Wasn’t he a top 150 recruit?
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May have been, but Dallas Thomas was a consensus top 100
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and in some ratings, top 75
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And making a change there has worked wonders so far.
Baseball has also lost the big games at the end that count big time
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Re: They play like a Monte Lee baseball team.
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Bakich is in his third year, and has been on an upward trajectory the entire time.
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CBB will not and should not be fired...
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but as I have said before and will say again, CBB is an average to slightly above average coach on his best day, and Clemson will never achieve any sustained level of success under his leadership. This teams post-season performance was absolutely pathetic by any measure.
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Re: CBB will not and should not be fired...
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Yes he is
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Considering how many coaches immediately fail and get fired, you are probably overrating the "average" coach.
Is he above average when you remove all of the failures and only compare him to other long-tenured and/or successful coaches? Not likely. But that isn't what average actually means.
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Re: CBB will not and should not be fired...
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Clemson: 292–196 (.598) 146–128 (.533) Total: 459–280 (.621)
Slightly above average in a garbage ACC and post season title at all in over 15 years.
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According to JK, the first ten years can't really be counted against him though!***
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Just like the last four cant be held against Dabo evidently.***
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He just won another acc championship last year.***
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Two in the past 4 years.***
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He's not a Hall of Famer
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Yesterday was bad. Brad certainly bears some of the blame, but you and I know players win games. Our best guys didn't show up. That's not on Brad.
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It absolutely is on Brad! It's called coaching!***
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Coaching doesn't make guys miss shots, commit stupid turnovers
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or get out hustled. At some point, players have to make the plays. The same guy that gameplanned wins over Duke and Kentucky game planned yesterday. Difference almost always is players making plays, in any sport
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It's Brad's job to have them ready to play...
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and the team has looked like $#!7 the last three games. The post season has been a total disaster!
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At what point do the players just have to play?
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:54 AM
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To execute? Coaches can lose a game, but mostly, wins and losses are about how guys play. Our best players did not play well these last 3 games. They didn't do the things they did do most of the year.
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It is his job to have them ready to play. It's called coaching.***
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Re: He's not a Hall of Famer
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2 games in a row. Absolutely on Brad. 8 points in 12 minutes and you can't change a scheme, substitute a player? Think about that, 8 points in 12 games. I've seen 5th graders core that many. Granted it was a shorter basket.
--Should read 12 minutes, sorry
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Re: He's not a Hall of Famer
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:15 AM
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What freaking awesome player were you going to put in to give us a spark? Heidi-Heidi-Ho? Reeves? Foster? 3 pts between all of them. Coaching has zero to do with Shef scoring 1 point and getting outrebounded worse than he had all year.
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So Brad made them miss those wide open shots
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:23 AM
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commit careless turnovers and get out hustled on the boards? Might as well say Dabo made DJ throw balls in the dirt
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My biggest knock on Brownell yesterday is...nothing was working for 35 minutes..
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Mar 22, 2025, 12:57 AM
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so why wait until 3 minutes left in the game to start the full court press. Should have gone to that at with at least 10 minutes left. Especially after seeing the effect of the press against Louisville!
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How does an educated adult say with a straight face that the play of a team has
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:52 PM
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No reflection on their coach?
By your own logic he shouldn’t have had his contract extended, since all of our wins this year similarly must have been the players just deciding to play well and no reflection on coaching.
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I never said a coach has no impact, but players win games
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Mar 22, 2025, 11:11 AM
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Coaches don't miss wide open shots, commit careless turnovers or get outhustled anymore than they drop passes, miss blocks or throw balls in the dirt.
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If Brad reloads and brings in some
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:40 AM
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serious talent through the portal, and can continue to produce competitive teams through doing that then the extension is warranted. BUT next year will be very telling. It was a mistake in my opinion to give the extension this year.
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Likely his most important portal year ever
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:29 AM
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We need a stud interior player and a stud shooter. And we need much more athleticism. 4 guys minimum I think, depending on who transfers out.
Right now we're going from a very, very experienced roster to a very inexperienced one. We have to hit big in the portal
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i would have let him go ..
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:50 AM
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but that time has come and gone. The decision was made.. so here we are.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:56 AM
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Is any really good coach willing to come to Clemson the way we get treated in the acc in basketball? Been that way forever. Probably got worse with the lawsuit.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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I agree with your logic and have resigned myself to our future. I worked for a college president once who described a particularly mediocre faculty member as follows: "He isn't good enough to keep, but he isn't bad enough to fire." That guy got to retire from the place. And so will Brad.
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We were all disappointed but not surprised.***
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:37 AM
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Agree. Just hate for this team to out on this.
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I wasn't mad at all...
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:58 AM
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We had a power outage 5 minutes after the game began. It lasted until around 9 PM.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 11:42 AM
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There is a difference between not firing a coach and giving him raises. There is also a difference between giving raises and giving extensions. There are also difference between all those things and increasing buyouts. Our AD does not seem to understand that any season that doesn’t end in a firing doesn’t also need to end in a raise, extension, and increased buyout. I expect that the terms will be changed more aggressively than last season to protect Brownell against a bad season next year. At the time his extension was approved last year, they knew Chase was coming back and that he had secured some top portal talent. They’re going into this one with no idea what is coming back next season.
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So you're not just a better coach, you're a better AD too? You should have
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Mar 21, 2025, 5:29 PM
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applied for the job
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Re: So you're not just a better coach, you're a better AD too? You should have
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Mar 21, 2025, 5:53 PM
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Have you ever met a decade you won’t strawman?
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Debate***
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I hope the portal taketh Wiggins away***
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 7:13 PM
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Striper, you play badly in successive games because you weren't prepared. That is why.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 8:00 PM
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Credit to McNeese for a great game plan. Swarmed Shef and Lahkin down low and took away our height advantage. Ran circles around our slower and less athletic team. That’s what a great coach does. He develops a comprehensive plan to put his team in a good position to win.
That first half was a joke. We were completely outcoached. Most of the time I watched Chase dribble around the top of the key without a plan of action . When he did try to drive, they doubled teamed him and usually came away with a strip. They were Prepared, we were not. Don’t blame the missed shots, we were on the short end of a coaching clinic.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 21, 2025, 9:37 PM
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We make 1 more 3 and win the game. Made shots are everything.
We lost by 2 and the media analysts and our bandwagoners are acting like we lost by 30. Terrible 1st half but great comeback late. Memphis was a 5 seed and lost by 8. Not a word about the great Hardaway getting outcoached.
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lol. My aunt has one more chromosome and shes my uncle.***
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And careless turnovers
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Mar 22, 2025, 11:16 AM
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and shooting, rebounding and turnovers weren't on the coach in this case. The designed plays produced open shots, our post guys were just flat out whipped, and we consistently threw or drove the ball into traffic against a match up zone
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Re: And careless turnovers
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Yes!
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 22, 2025, 1:43 AM
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Who ever said anything about firing the guy after this season?
We were all on the fence about him leaving for an Indiana. Most of us were relieved.
Disregarding the complete trolls and morons that might’ve said something like this after McNeese, I haven’t seen any one say this.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 22, 2025, 2:49 AM
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Lol....everyone was upset but no one in their right mind should want to fire anyone. The guys shot poorly the first half and it killed us. I'm over it on to baseball!!!😁🐅⚾️
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 22, 2025, 11:24 AM
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In any college sport, if you have a capable coach, you're better off to keep them and create stability and longevity. That's why Brad has been able to get the transfers he's gotten and have the success he's had. Nobody wants to transfer somewhere with no idea what the culture is like. Clemson fans loved Oliver Purnell because his teams played an entertaining style of basketball. They always peaked about mid-season and as they wore down due to that style and other teams peaked at the end of the season, post season results were always bad. This year's team peaked at the UNC game. We won games by double digits, but if you watch the games you see that offensively things weren't clicking after that point. The slump didn't just start in the ACC tournament, but that's basketball. Six years from now we can compare Wade and Brownell, the Wolfies and the Tigers and we'll see. My guess is Brad will still be finding success, and Wade will either be successful and move on to bigger and better things, or will have flopped and still be gone. All I know is that I've been watching Clemson basketball since the early 70s and Brad is the most consistent coach we've had, with a Sweet 16 and an Elite 8 in his pocket.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Mar 22, 2025, 12:26 PM
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Have you not ever seen a pattern with Coach Brownell that his team plays their worst usually in big moments. This is on the coach. You think Danny Ford coached teams played tight in big moments. Of course not. Just the opposite. That part is in your personality as a coach. Unfortunately Brad has a ceiling just like T Bowden. Does just enough to get you excited but can never finish the job or close the deal. What makes a team go cold in big moments away from your home court? Of course it is the coach you need most in those moments. You remember T Bowden’s Mom saying he would pee in his pants at FSU. In my opinion Brad Pees in his pants in big moments away from home and the players see this and it affects them in a lack of confidence. Just the opinion of a fellow who loves Clemson and who has been watching Clemson BB since fike field house days. Would Wade and Louisville coach be better. Oh yes, and we could have have gotten them in the past. Our expectations are too low and Brad has friends in high places. Am I still in for Clemson? Yes!! Just speaking what “ I” honestly think is the truth.
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You mean like when we were down 30-0 at home to NC State
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Got blown out at Homecoming by Georgia Tech, lost at Duke, the ROD-NEY game against the coots? A little revisionist history there.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
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Chase was a star(type) player for most of the season. I just can't understand why we fell apart after Dillon went down. He wasn't a starter until the last quarter of the season but yet the offense went out of sync when he broke his hand.
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
Mar 22, 2025, 6:42 PM
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I don't think that many are saying that Brad is a terrible coach, but he has proven on more than one occasion that he is a terrible post season coach. It seems that he hasn't figured out how to get his players to reach in and pull out that something extra that it usually takes to win in post season. If he could ever figure that part out he would be up there with the best of college basketball coaches!!!
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Re: I was as mad at halftime yesterday as anyone
Mar 22, 2025, 10:22 PM
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Think Dillon Hunter was the missing piece in those last two games
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I've actually seen few serious poasts calling for CBB
Mar 23, 2025, 4:50 PM
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to be fired. I have seen several serious poasts questioning the wisdom of giving him another six years, though.
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