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Legend [6916]
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I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 8:22 AM
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if he showed interest in coming here. He certainly could be a program changing hire with instant credibility to recruits. I know he was named in the recent investigation, which I admit causes me some pause that he might do it again. However, im sure we could put lots of CYA language in the contract to protect us financially and allow us to fire him for any additional infractions if they occur. Again, I know this would be very risky and im not even sure how I completely feel about it, but I think this program just needs something that can just get us over the hump and then we can go from there. We have had a few coaches that have been close OP/Barnes/Ellis/BB but none have had the consistent success to get us over the hump. I think Barnes was the closest before he left.
Pitino is currently coaching in Greece and has expressed interest in returning to the college game. If we were willing to make the move and take the chance, our AD would have to be willing to make a huge commitment to bball and open up the checkbook.
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Oculus Spirit [40971]
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No!***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:24 AM
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Athletic Dir [1136]
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Re: No!***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:32 AM
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Not only "No", but H3LL NO!
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CU Medallion [20077]
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No!***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:25 AM
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Orange Blooded [2332]
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Re: No!***
Feb 14, 2019, 9:30 AM
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Absolutely not! We already had Tates Locke and that probation period was enough!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105858]
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1. We have a coach. 2. We cannot hire Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 8:25 AM
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3. Pitino is a scumbag and definitely not someone we want at Clemson.
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Oculus Spirit [40971]
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^^^Gets it!***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:28 AM
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Legend [6916]
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I dont disagree with his shady past but there is no
Feb 14, 2019, 8:30 AM
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comparison with #1. If you compared coaching ability alone I take Pitino all day long over BB. Now factoring in his past im not so sure. Like I said, im not totally on board with it, I just was reading somewhere recently that he wanted to get back to coaching college and wanted to pose the question.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105858]
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Of course he's a great basketball coach
Feb 14, 2019, 8:37 AM
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but he also bangs skanks in restaurants, he pays for hookers for recruits and players and he pays for recruits and steers them towards shoe contracts.
UCLA could have hired him, but never really considered it. So why the #### would Clemson consider it? Easy answer, they wouldn't.
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Hall of Famer [8125]
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That's a great list of pros, but where's the cons?***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:38 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105858]
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Pitino is the con. Hth***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:38 AM
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TigerNet Elite [75246]
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Hall of Famer [8125]
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Absolutely
Feb 14, 2019, 8:28 AM
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As long as some of the hookers are shared with the fans.
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National Champion [7767]
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yes***
Feb 14, 2019, 8:30 AM
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Playmaker [352]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 8:58 AM
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NO!! We don't want his ilk here at Clemson!!
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Game Day Hero [4435]
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I want Shaka Smart
Feb 14, 2019, 9:21 AM
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His approach and style of play is what we need. His personality is a great fit. Spare no expense if there is an opportunity to get him. I would kick Coach B upstairs, make him an assistant AD or something.
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Game Changer [1663]
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Smart has done nothing at Texas.
Feb 14, 2019, 9:32 AM
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Can't see him lasting there too much longer. 61-59 in year 4.
2015–16 Texas 20–13 11–7 4th NCAA Division I Round of 64
2016–17 Texas 11–22 4–14 10th
2017–18 Texas 19–15 8–10 T–6th NCAA Division I Round of 64
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Game Day Hero [4435]
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Texas was NOT a good fit for him
Feb 14, 2019, 10:29 AM
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Shaka has the ability to get the best out of his people. We need somebody who can "make chicken salad out of chicken chit". Right now, we have a program that has a tendency to throttle back people. We are too mechanical, too predictable. We need LOOSE.
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Paw Master [17587]
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CU Medallion [20077]
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Re: I want Shaka Smart
Feb 14, 2019, 9:36 AM
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Why would you spare no expense for a guy who has Texas as a middle of the pack Big 12 team at the moment? Seems to be the equivalent of where Clemson currently sits in the ACC. He had a nice NCAA run with VCU in 2010-2011, but other than that nothing to write home about.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: I want Shaka Smart
Feb 14, 2019, 10:35 AM
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Well, that would be a return to OP. Shaka is a direct coaching link.
The problem now with Shaka and the OP coaching tree is that the "Havok Defense" has been around for 10+ years and most (good) coaches can adjust to it. So hiring that brand of basketball is investing after the bubble has burst. It is a gimmick scheme and while it can produce some wins, it has the same issues a CJP flexbone option. That was even why OP was getting a limited return on investment.
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Clemson Conqueror [11185]
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That style worked well against mediocre teams without good
Feb 14, 2019, 10:29 PM
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ballhandlers. I remember a stat from Purnell's days a Clemson. Forty percent of the time, his press resulted in a layup or dunk by the other team!
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Tiger Titan [48004]
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You must've stopped paying attention after he
Feb 15, 2019, 12:52 PM
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left VCU.
He hasn't done much at Texas. If he can't succeed in major college basketball, why would we want him?
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Orange Blooded [2113]
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Then we truly would compare to Usuc5 football***
Feb 14, 2019, 9:49 AM
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National Champion [7565]
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no way, no how
Feb 14, 2019, 10:28 AM
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he is tainted beyond redemption
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All-In [10838]
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nah***
Feb 14, 2019, 10:31 AM
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Orange Phenom [14184]
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Absolutely not.***
Feb 14, 2019, 10:35 AM
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Dynasty Maker [3155]
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The Fans Would Come To LJ Just To See Slick Rick
Feb 14, 2019, 10:43 AM
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He has won everywhere and gotten in trouble everywhere. He definitely would make an impact.
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Orange Blooded [2468]
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Re: The Fans Would Come To LJ Just To See Slick Rick
Feb 14, 2019, 11:34 AM
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Ah, but the impact we want is a positive one, not a negative one.
He is trash. He doesn't belong here.
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Rock Defender [60]
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Feb 14, 2019, 11:44 AM
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I don’t care who they bring in as long as they can
1) Break the streak in Chapel Hill
2) Win our first ACC Tournament Championship
3) Consistently lead us to the NCAA tournament
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Clemson Sports Icon [57406]
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No way. Don't want a scumbag like that representing Clemson.***
Feb 14, 2019, 12:36 PM
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Letterman [293]
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Feb 14, 2019, 12:45 PM
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I think winning is important but is NOT everything. There is a price to pay taking shortcuts and hiring Divas.
Not to beat a dead horse.. but I would like coaches like Dabo whether they win or not. Of course Dabo's winning has created a new expectation for all clemson sports programs. Lets be practical - Clemson is an academic institution and sports is part of it and not other way around.
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Starter [386]
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You nuts***
Feb 14, 2019, 12:48 PM
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Gridiron Giant [16084]
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No way. It kills the Clemson brand.
Feb 14, 2019, 1:03 PM
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What we want to do across our programs is to leverage the culture and brand that Dabo created. You’re talking about hiring an ethically bankrupt coaching legend with a name arguably bigger than Dabo’s, and at the very least a personality that would compete with Dabo as the face of Clemson. We absolutely do not want that.
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Paw Master [17336]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 1:05 PM
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No not even if he won a NC at Clemson!! I would feel like as a Clemson fan we would lower or standards and character to hire someone like Pitino. It could affect the culture the current coaches have worked so hard to establish.
If Clemson were to associate with Pitino, those who had to deal with him might feel the need to shower afterwards. His reputation is that nasty.
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Top TigerNet [29012]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 4:35 PM
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H3LL NO!!!!!
DA Post!!!...
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Orange Beast [6129]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 6:12 PM
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No. Basketball mediocrity is one thing but the reputation of our University can’t be compromised.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 6:15 PM
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Definitely. His daughter went to C of C too, so maybe he also likes the state.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 6:37 PM
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I forgot to add, that I wouldn't take him over CBB right now. I just meant if we were doing a coaching search because CBB was no longer, that I wouldn't see it as a bad hire, depending who our options were.
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Trainer [42]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 14, 2019, 10:09 PM
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He’s always been a first class scumbag. So bad even Louisville ran him off. Also the one and done culture. You would seriously want him here?
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All-In [10738]
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Ummmm ...,,
Feb 14, 2019, 10:14 PM
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..... NO!!
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No.***
Feb 14, 2019, 10:34 PM
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I'd rather not win a game***
Feb 14, 2019, 10:39 PM
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Orange Elite [5161]
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It depends. Does he bring in his own recruits to upgrade Pickens Co. escort game as well?***
Feb 14, 2019, 10:47 PM
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Varsity [101]
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Feb 15, 2019, 12:20 AM
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LOL - I wanted Pitino when he was coaching the Celtics and was leaving Boston. But, we chose another guy and Pitino had a #1 team shortly after that at UL. But, history has clouded Pitino being a viable candidate at CLEMSON. So much for that, as that boat has sailed I guess. CLEMSON does NOT typically go after high-profile coaches. We just have to find the 'diamond in the rough' and be extremely lucky (not smart, just lucky) to get a great coach that wins a lot. JMO though, but I doubt seriously that I'm wrong.
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Hayelll No.***
Feb 15, 2019, 7:21 AM
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110%er [3708]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 15, 2019, 7:45 AM
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No. I'm pretty sure Louisville had to Clorox the entire campus after they finally removed him from the premises.
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Paw Master [16422]
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Re: I know it would be risky hire, but would you accept Pitino
Feb 15, 2019, 8:30 AM
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NO!
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Orange Immortal [67239]
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NO!
Feb 15, 2019, 9:11 AM
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Why would you even contemplate that?
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