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Plate Approach
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:32 AM
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Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on our team offensively so far. 3 weeks ago I thought we’d be a high scoring team with a weakness of a banged up pitching staff. Now I feel the team is the exact opposite. I feel we have a lot to work on offensively.
I’ve seen a good bit of swinging at bad pitches, getting over the top of the ball on pitches we usually square up. We’ve also had some unfortunate strike zones by some unfavorable umpires.
I feel like this team has the talent and power to put up big numbers every game.
Now I understand we scored 11 last night and 7 on Tuesday, and just swept our rival. But not sure if the current plate approach gets it done against wake in a couple weeks.
Thoughts?
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Offensive Star [304]
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Re: Plate Approach
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:34 AM
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I also realize we don’t need a ton of offense with the way we are currently pitching. I guess I’m just comparing us to the teams I feel are Omaha caliber right now
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:48 AM
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Good post. First and foremost for us to be winning and against quality competition (or at least big games) with the offense struggling is a great sign for what’s to come. We still have a lot of guys that have yet to get going.
Cam’s still coming up clutch like always, but his average will skyrocket soon. When Bissetta is hot he can’t miss the ball… Gaffney isn’t even close to what he will be. The team as a whole needs to cut down on strike outs. That’s the most alarming stat….
Jack Crighton needs to be in the lineup no ifs ands or butts. I appreciate McCladdie‘s versatility which is why I think he’s a great player to have come in for anybody who might be struggling in a game, but Crighton is the better hitter against good pitching. He has a lot more experience and he has proven himself…. we still haven’t seen the best lineup we can see
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:59 AM
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Good assessment.
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Re: Plate Approach
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Mar 6, 2025, 10:27 AM
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Still kinda early for these guys, I like our depth on offense, lot of really good bats and gloves that can play multiple positions, wich is why I think Mcgladdy gets the nod over Crighton. Just my personal opinion, he hasn’t shown me anything flashy, I put him in with Hall and Nawrocki last year, good but not quite good enough to take someone’s position, not to say he won’t, also very glad he stayed to compete.
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Mar 7, 2025, 9:43 AM
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Totally agree re: Jack. All he does is hit line drives every game he plays. Why in the world he is not in the lineup every day is beyond me. he musta made somebody mad somewhere along the way because he is an excellent player!
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National Champion [7692]
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 7, 2025, 11:24 AM
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definitely agree on Crighton. He really came on at the end of last year and it seems to be carrying into this year. Just waiting on him to hit his first home run! lol. But its nice that Mccladdie is getting meaningful reps now just in case someone goes down with an injury.
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Orange Blooded [2372]
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:51 AM
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To add to that, purify finally moved up in the order but neither game this week had Listi Purify and Cam 1-2-3 b/c of rest. Give me that 123 and Jack Crighton in the lineup.
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Offensive Star [304]
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Re: Plate Approach
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:56 AM
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Agreed! Strikeouts are alarming right now, hopefully we cut down on that.
But shoutout to Purify, dude has been on fire lately. And I do like Crighton in the lineup. I feel like when McCladdie is on a tear, he’s one of our best players, but he is also streaky. Bissetta is great, but again, it’d be nice to see him more consistent at the plate.
This lineup has the talent to have 7+ guys in the order bat .300+ with double digit home runs. The good news is, if the pitching keeps up, and the offense reaches its potential, we have a real shot at not just Omaha, but winning it all.
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Offensive Star [304]
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:58 AM
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And while I have been loving the late inning offense, there are going to be games where that doesn’t show up. Would like to see us scratch a few more across in the middle innings
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Mar 6, 2025, 10:52 AM
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All good assessments. I definitely say thank you PC. Not just last night, but other games have been scored generously. Purify triple should have been an error. But at least he has been hitting it hard. Definitely my favorite player.
But we've been very opportunistic. Last night, 10 freebies. We've been gifted a bunch this year. Which, that's ok. If they're going to give you one, take it. Sometimes though, I don't think we've been aggressive enough. Watching the first pitch etc. Also felt at times, Monte came back to coach hitting. Wanting to just jack one out instead of going with the pitch.
Coots really don't have that good of pitching. But we've swung at pitches in the opposite batters box. Saying, just doesn't seem like overall that we're putting the barrel on the ball.
Not complaining, but just responding. Nitpicking too. Afterall we've only lost one game. And we actually hit pretty good in the ole miss game. But our competition is fixing to take a leap. Won't be able to rely on the freebies.
Saying all that, I totally agree with coach's approach to letting everyone play. I think he's probably really close to picking the 9 he's going with once league play starts... still early. Excited to see this team in April. No doubt we're a good team. How good?
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Mar 6, 2025, 9:58 AM
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I can't argue that we have been swinging at some bad pitches, but that happens when you're trying to be aggressive at the plate. As long as the strike-out rate doesn't go through the roof I'm ok. I like aggressiveness at the plate until it becomes detrimental. Go Tigers!!! "Keep on punching Apollo."
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I thought this was going to be a post about food and eating.***
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Mar 6, 2025, 10:32 AM
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Dynasty Maker [3252]
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Re: I thought this was going to be a post about food and eating.***
Mar 7, 2025, 9:39 AM
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quote from Seinfeld ... "Gold, Jerry that's gold."
Judge thanks for a good laugh this morning.
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Re: I thought this was going to be a post about food and eating.***
Mar 7, 2025, 1:03 PM
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Shocker, YOU are TROLLING in the wrong TNET Board again JK
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Mar 6, 2025, 2:19 PM
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Ciufo and Jarrell are walking strikeouts right now. Not sure if it’s approach, or they’re not seeing the ball well, or what, but outside of running into a couple here recently, not very consistent overall at the plate. Paino has struggled with strikeouts, too, recently. Hopefully just early season adjustments, because strikeout rate has seemed a lot higher than in past seasons under EB. Not worried about Cam. Gaffney will turn it on, too, I believe. Completely in agreement about Crighton - I think McCladdie is versatile and I love Bissetta’s power, but one way or the other, Crighton has to be in the lineup. I would love to see some of the younger guys (Castellani, Dillard, Wentworth) get some more opportunities, too, especially if the strikeout epidemic continues for a few guys.
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 7, 2025, 11:29 AM
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I keep hearing good things about Prather, and he looked good at the plate Wednesday. I wonder why he isn't getting much PT? I know Gaffney can catch, but his glove is too valuable at first imo. He needs to be there.
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 6, 2025, 10:21 PM
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I wish I had stats for last year’s team up to a similar point, but I actually am encouraged by the patient approach this year. More pitches, more ABs, allows for more opportunities to assess the opposing pitcher, runs up the pitch count, etc. In fact, I personally believe this approach results in more consistency and ultimately wins vs the boom or bust approach of Monty.
I won’t go into a REALLY lengthy post, but here are a few stats for thought…. Btw if this gets lost in the late night shuffle, I may create a new post tomorrow, but I thought this thread was a great starting thread. 😊
Clemson Baseball Stats (3/6/25)
BA .293 (85)
OBP .428 (32)
HRs 13 (Tied at 100)
Runs scored 109 or 8.39/game (39)
ERA 3.90 (62)
National rank in parenthesis
Most important two numbers imo are 8.4 runs scored per game and only 3.9 resulting in a W/L ratio of .923 (8).
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/team/319
Wish the site had more stats and included team rankings of the difference between runs scored per game and ERA.
Go Tigers
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Starter [297]
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 6, 2025, 10:52 PM
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Priest needs to be in the lineup as much as possible
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Mar 6, 2025, 11:30 PM
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Right now we are projecting out to almost exactly the same strikeouts per game. The patient approach has paid off and helped push up pitch counts but, they have been swinging at some bad pitches. Lately they seem to be pressing too hard.
With adding Gaffney and Priest, we should have decent HR totals but we don’t have the same power as last year. This team does seem better at stringing together hits and walks though. I think the batting does get better during ACC play. Got one more tuneup this week.
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Starter [251]
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 6, 2025, 11:33 PM
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As many strikeouts as last year.
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Mar 7, 2025, 1:56 AM
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Wake is not what they've been....they've been struggling this year.
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Mar 7, 2025, 2:08 AM
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Hitting a pitched baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports , doing it in cold weather absolutely sucks . Not saying warmer weather will mean they won’t swing at bad pitches, but I’d imagine everyone’s offense will look a bit better in another month.
Plus, players today overall just strike out more. I actually like Clemson’s approach with a lot of guys choking up more than what you often see. If you have a guy like Cam who is willing to lay a bunt down (Fri. night vs Coots) when the 3rd baseman is essentially at SS shows me the team isn’t selfish in their mindset at the plate
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Mar 7, 2025, 5:19 AM
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Listii appears to be a master at this. I suppose that’s why his BA is over .400 and his OBP near .550. Impressive.
I’m a fan!
Go Tigers
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 7, 2025, 7:33 AM
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I watched a podcast that discussed the difference between the Gamecocks approach at the plate (Coach Monte’s guys) vs. the more patient approach from the Tigers. The Tigers aren’t hitting early in games against good starters but are producing by forcing the opponent to the bullpen (pitch count). Like last year the runs are coming later in games. There are a few guys struggling at the plate but it’s still early.
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 7, 2025, 7:36 AM
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That's the encouraging part, the bats have yet to collectively catch fire (although we saw a glimpse of it in the 8th the other night in Greenville), and we're a top-10 team w/ a handful of high caliber wins. There's definitely more meat on the bone. Paino and Gaffney have both struggled, especially against off-speed away.
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National Champion [7692]
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Re: Plate Approach
Mar 7, 2025, 11:22 AM
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If you've followed college baseball in the past, pitching is always ahead of offense at the beginning of the year. So many times I've seen people talk about how good our pitching looks, only for them to stumble down the stretch.
Last year is a perfect example, the offense wasn't firing on all cylinders to start the year. Mainly the transfers like hinderleider, mathes, and Obertop. Which makes sense because they are playing together for the first time. But once they got going we were one of the best offenses in the country.
Long story short, be patient with them. They will come around
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Paw Master [16421]
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Mar 7, 2025, 12:45 PM
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I don’t see an issue. Batting close to .300 as a teams and averaging almost 9 runs per game. Bad swings are part of baseball. Winning is all that really matters at the end of the day. So many tryin’ to nit pik this teams success to death. We have sound defense with great hitting. Our OBP is over .400 as is our SLG. Pitching is coming around as Coach EB keeps running out different guys trying to nail down that weekend rotation. If we can continue to score 8-9 RPG with an ERA under 3 we will win most games. Especially with this easier schedule this year.
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