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Top TigerNet [32042]
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Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:13 PM
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I trust his judgment far more than I trust my own.
I posted earlier that I place the majority (80%) of the blame on the play of the OL.
I listened to Eric on Gramlich and Mac Lain. He placed the blame on poor play calling. I'll take his word on it. If you haven't listened to Eric and Kelly talk about the game, I recommend you do.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:15 PM
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plenty of blame to go around for that debacle
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Not really. It was the QB and the OCs inability to call
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:34 PM
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plays that don’t feed into a 7 man blitz. That’s really what last night boils down to. Yes, was off and panicking like a sophomore last night, but the OC did nothing to help him. He kept calling plays like we were controlling the LOS.
The QB and OC, with the OC taking most of that blame because he did nothing to help the struggling QB.
I was pretty harsh on the OL last night, but what the he|| are they gonna do when they’re facing 7 on 5 every play and the OC is doing nothing to stop them?
I agree with Mac on this.
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110%er [3880]
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I think it was a combination of bad play calling and fundamentals
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:23 PM
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or lack there of by Cade. Way too many missed “hot routes” by Cade. Glad to see that was acknowledged by Dabo. Right or wrong he called out Cade.
From a play calling perspective, our WR routes are way too slow to develop. LSU bringing the entire D at Cade and we got WR’s with their backs to Cade running 15 yd drags or outs. At what point do we start running quick slants or get on the edge? Made no sense. I blame that on Riley.
At end of day, we played a bad game and only lost by 7 to a team that might win SEC. Last year’s team loses that game by 20+.
Get some offense fixed. Gain some confidence on both sides and we will be fine.
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Re: I think it was a combination of bad play calling and fundamentals
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:26 PM
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I don't get we finally have a real receiving threat in the backfield and we used him what, once? There should have been all sorts of wheel route and creative screen plays available.
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Orange Beast [6544]
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Re: I think it was a combination of bad play calling and fundamentals
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:31 PM
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A "real receiving threat" that has never had over a 30 yard reception and only scored two receiving TD's in three whole years. Come on man. I think Adam has had a few nice plays for us going back to late last year, but show me instead of talking about potential. It's clear he is a great teammate and tows the company line but I'm not sure that that is not the main reason he is getting this chance. Show me! Talk is cheap.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:27 PM
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My brother in Christ, I knew the play calling was going to be bad when they had true freshman Gideon Davidson lead blocking into Perkins. The only positive drive we had was off the back of short passes that lead to RAC. We then immediately abandoned that for the rest of the game.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:30 PM
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It made no sense to me the way they were rotating RBs early in the game. No rhyme or reason. Also on the other side of the ball why the #### was denhoff getting the amount of snaps he got, only sack of the night for us came from TRANSFER will heldt.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:31 PM
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I couldn't count how many times I'd look at who was in at DL on 3rd down and it was Denhoff. That's the kind of #### that's inexcusable.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:34 PM
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Lol huh? If you don't block, play calling is irrelevant.
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Valley Protector [1429]
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
Aug 31, 2025, 10:40 PM
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Hold Randall in for blocking and have him release where #7 vacates and dump the ball to him to stop the "spy" defense. Once we showed we weren't going to run the ball, they knew Cade was the only RB to worry about.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 10:41 PM
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The offense was all around unprepared. O-line definitely got whooped and out physicaled. Receivers who were always reliable and clutch last season had their heads up their tails dropping catchable balls.
Cade has no poise or cool, especially when the line breaks down 80% of the time and the receivers also not getting separation at the same time that's happening. Absolute abysmal offensive scheme and play calling.
Not giving the two highly touted and talented young RB's more than one carry each was also a complete bone headed mistake. They couldn't have been any worse than the running game already was so why not at least give them a chance.
Defense held LSU to 17 points and that was way more than good enough to win the game if the offense could have just played average. Instead it was a complete mess and once again the Riley proved he can't scheme against above average defenses. I'm summation, there was no cohesion on offense and plenty of blame to go around.
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And to treat it as a growing/learning experience is a joke.
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:01 PM
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For an experienced OC who is getting paid millions of dollars to coach a major football program like Clemson, last night is an outrageous failure on every level, and demands accountability for putting that garbage on the field. I know Dabo isn't going to berate one of his coaches in public, and I respect that; but as soon as they got back to the locker roon last night, Dabo should have called Riley into his office, slammed the door har enough to shake the walls, and ripped him a new one.
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Game Changer [2022]
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Re: And to treat it as a growing/learning experience is a joke.
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:25 PM
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Preach it Smiling. The Riley experience has been a complete and utter failure. Dabo needs to go ahead and start finding other prospects to take his spot. I have nothing against Riley personally, and I am sure he is an upstanding man.
The harsh reality is he is a mediocre OC who can't scheme against above average defenses, and has proved that more than enough times to show he is incapable. That's just the way it is whether we like it or not.
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Orange Immortal [62380]
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Bret...I am gonna have to trust my eyes.....We didn't block anybody. Salty needs
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:17 PM
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to spin up that golden oldie...Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.....
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Top TigerNet [32042]
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That was what I saw as well.
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:27 PM
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But, after listening to Eric, I thought about it some more. I didn't see many "creative" play calls. So, I started asking myself, "What is the definition of insanity?" Answer, "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
So I started thinking - and once again, I'm going by memory. I haven't rewatched any of the game. Was there any plan B? Once it became clear that the DL of LSU was dominating the OL of Clemson, what was being done (play calling wise) to try and adjust or at least try something different?
Like I said, I am just a fan. So maybe my thoughts are this: The OL was getting slobberknocked, but the OC (and other coaches, including Dabo) apparently had no plan to try and minimize the huge advantage.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Aug 31, 2025, 11:45 PM
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It seems that for the past few years (maybe Riley as OC) it’s been easy for defenses to play our offense. Just rush five or more, collapse the pocket and our offense falls apart. It’s really been that simple.
PeeDeeTiger 100% correct:
“It made no sense to me the way they were rotating RBs early in the game. Why the #### was denhoff getting the amount of snaps he got?”
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Sep 1, 2025, 1:02 AM
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Does anyone remember when the last time we have run a true screen pass to slow down the rush? I don't hardly ever remember us running one.
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Re: Eric Mac Lain knows far more than I do about all things football.
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Sep 1, 2025, 6:03 AM
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I see the problems on offense starting with the level of defense the Tigers are playing against. Cade is a first read QB. Even after a checking into an adjustment he locks on the primary. Thus, a defense needs to do two things a) take away the primary, b) get pressure because Cade will drop his eyes away from the other options. Given that’s who he is, the OC has to find ways to get him better check downs but that’s just a bandaid and can’t work the entire game. Hence the inconsistent play. That’s why you see Dabo saying they abandoned the run too soon. He knows LSU had the offense diagnosed the minute we couldn’t run the ball to help avoid the one read QB. Riley gets my criticism with the lack of QB development and others get my criticism surrounding the inability to run the football.
What how things look different against defenses that can’t consistently blanket the primary receiver or shutdown the run. Cade’s confidence will improve, 3rd and short will allow better options on check downs, and if the Oline provides better protection Cade will eventually find other options like a TE downfield.
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Orange Elite [5333]
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Poor play calling did not cause absolutely no holes to run the ball.
Sep 1, 2025, 5:23 AM
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I don’t like our offense - for sure. But an o line needs to be able to create holes (even small ones) - and none were there.
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I agree with Eric. Having no plan or commitment to a run
Sep 1, 2025, 6:31 AM
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game made it really easy for LSU to just tee off.
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Sep 1, 2025, 6:41 AM
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yawn
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