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About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:02 AM
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I am revising that assessment.
I’d say the odds for Trump are now no better than 50/50. Probably still slight favorite right now but not a landslide shoo in. He can’t just coast to victory.
Why? Poor choice for VP. Rubio would have been much better if he had to have a populist. But also Youngkin. Boring speech by Vance.
Poor speech by Trump at the end of the convention. Everything from how late he came on to how long he rambled was off. Unforced error.
Basically DJT cannot get out of his own way. Any occasion that calls for decorum, magnanimity, or graciousness is beyond what he is capable of delivering.
Also, Dark Brandon played the timing of his decision as well as he could have. The Dems are excited. A good VP pick by Harris could be huge because Vance is not as good on the mic as many assumed. And there’s still a little mystery as to whether Harris is a done deal or if there will be challengers at the Dem convention.
Finally, if the MSM (aka Democrat media) allow RFK Jr. to participate in the next debate then it really gets interesting because he crushes Trump in head to head polling.
Invest in popcorn. We ain’t done with the drama yet.
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RFK has this very weird problem where his favorables
Jul 23, 2024, 9:47 AM
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collapse like a Kennedy in the 60s everywhere that isn't online.
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Re: Zogby. Honestly, I got that from the RFK jr. campaign.
Jul 23, 2024, 1:25 PM
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Nice article.
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:11 AM
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Completely agree with your assessment. As for the VP pick I do like Vance. But I wish Trump had picked Rubio or a woman , black, etc. I absolutely hate identity politics but it’s the disgusting little game we have to play now. Harris is already saying “women have to stick together”. I also agree that Trump just can’t shut his mouth. His policies are great for America and I’m definitely voting for him. But he’s done a poor job of seizing the moment.
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I agree. Identity politics works amazing
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:14 AM
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just wait until your taxes are 35-38%. Then that black woman you HAD TO HAVE (to make history) will not be your choice again.
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Re: I agree. Identity politics works amazing
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:21 AM
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Yeah but I’m sure there’s another “first” that will pop up in 2028.
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I mean, this, and others
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:38 AM
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as someone who doesn't get into politics that much, to me Trump is an awful communicator. Between the name calling and inane comments, the message about opponents true flaws is buried.
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Re: I mean, this, and others
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:52 AM
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I agree. Policy can not be worse than what we have seen the past 4 years and will continue to see with Harris. Trump could win in a landslide if he just sticks to policy.
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Re: I mean, this, and others
Jul 24, 2024, 8:46 PM
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Trump has Jan 6 problem.
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Re: I agree. Identity politics works amazing
Jul 24, 2024, 9:15 PM
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just wait until your taxes are 35-38%. Then that black woman you HAD TO HAVE (to make history) will not be your choice again.
If your federal taxes are 35-38% you can afford it. IMHO
I would be happy about paying 38%.
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 23, 2024, 1:31 PM
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Rubio would have cut into Trump’s anti-war-monger base, same as would have been the case if Nikki had been tabbed for VP. But the virtue of avoiding a DEI-esque VP is a political disadvantage for America’s identity politics centric electorate.
As for Trump’s unforced errors, unfortunately I can’t see that ending. Every month or so we can expect him to say something stupid that has nothing to do with his policy messaging. It is what it is.
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:14 AM
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No elections ever been decided by the VP pick and this one's no different. I do agree that anybody who considers Trump the favorite at this point, much less a sure thing, is a moron who hasn't been paying attention the last two election cycles.
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Trump need more stories that start with someone calling him SIR.
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Jul 23, 2024, 8:55 AM
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There he best ones and so truthy and insightful!
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I bet he'd prefer "lord".***
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Jul 23, 2024, 11:09 AM
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Re: I bet he'd prefer "lord".***
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“KING”
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It absolutely amazes me
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Jul 23, 2024, 9:24 AM
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...and will undoubtedly be written about in the decades to come...
how the modern day Blue Team apparatus is just able to completely nullify their voting base's decisions. Their oligarchy has hand picked their last 3 nominees.
But what is fascinating, is how everyone just falls right in line as if nothing is amiss and this was the plan all along. I don't understand how they can do this. I really don't.
It would be one thing a significant faction (not even the majority here, say 10-15%) could come out and openly admit this, while (like IE's position) just acknowledging the ends justify the means and they DGAF about actually having a say in how their government and/or party is run.
But that is just completely absent from the media landscape, including the social media outlets.
IRDGAF what color ant you are in this jar. If you can't objectively take a step back and draw that conclusion...that people just fall in line with this...idk what to tell you. This level of social engineering is giving Allen Dulles a raging hard on from the grave.
The only differentiator btwn Donny and them, is Donny actually won based on votes. Allegedly. Who knows if that's cooked at this point, honestly. INB4 IE eVeRyThInG iS a SpEaRaSeE iN TrUmP lAnD
It will be interesting to see what Team Donny comes up with. I haven't liked his choice to come back, either, but he still represents the better of the two options for me and my family financially (for now, I posted by thoughts on some of his positions last week and I'm not happy ha). Idk a #### thing about this Vance guy. His picks for Sec of UST and decisions w/ JPow are infinitely more important to you and I than his VP pick...but what do I know.
My knee-jerk reaction: The entire apparatus needs to be questioned, and quite frankly, I want to see the entire thing just implode. Fuggit.
I'm still long Chaos. Let's bring it.
I agree with one thing whole heartedly....this show is just getting started, hahaha, we got 100 more days.
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Re: It absolutely amazes me
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Jul 23, 2024, 9:33 AM
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Sorry, but for 10 years following 1/6/21, Republicans aren't allowed to pretend to care about undemocratic attempts to nullify the vote.
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I gotta give the TU just for the effort you put into that.***
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Jul 23, 2024, 10:59 AM
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What you fail to see here is I'm not a Democrat, so I don't care what they do.
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Jul 23, 2024, 11:06 AM
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I'm not going to get in my opponents way when they are screwing up. If Democrats are Ok with how their nominee is picked, why should I care?
I'm sure not going to feign being mad about it when the republicans have one of the worst candidates they could possibly find, and didn't seem to care at all that they let Trump be the nominee without requiring him to participate in the debates. He was pretty much given rock star status for no real reason.
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Re: It absolutely amazes me
Jul 23, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Those last 3 Dem nominees have won the popular vote every year since 2008. Not sure how that nullified the voting base (especially when a primary occurred in each of those years).
Agree that this year has been nullified.
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Dulles comment is on point... and reveals the current Bernaysian saturation.
Jul 24, 2024, 8:54 PM
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Next...A.I.
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Politics are...err...political....
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Jul 24, 2024, 9:34 PM
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Biden was forced...politically...to withdraw. He wasn't forced physically or blackmailed. Enough political will was against him because enough people thought either couldn't win or shouldn't win (meaning couldn't serve another 4 yr term). I don't see that as being "anti-democratic" or even against the spirit of democracy.
The idea of direct voter input on the party nomination (it's still delegates and not a direct vote) is still a relatively new concept, at least in its current form. And there is still a delegate system...with super delegates on the dem side...for a reason.
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Its amazing to me that some have referenced this as a "coup"
Jul 25, 2024, 1:51 PM
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and made it out to be worse than Jan 6 ever was.
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 24, 2024, 1:50 AM
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Donald Trump has a Jan 6 problem
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 24, 2024, 8:07 AM
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Trump has no upside. He peaked when he “took a bullet for democracy”. He has secured all the votes he’s gonna get.
Kamala has big upside and big downside. It’s up to her. She could win big or lose big. Ball is in her court.
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Re: About the assassination attempt sealing the win for Trump
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Jul 24, 2024, 7:30 PM
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JD Vance has never, to the best of my knowledge, been good on a mike.
Then again, when he was running for Senator in Ohio where I was living in '22, that's mostly because nobody ever saw him on one. I have seldom seen a politician who liked campaigning less than JD Vance. Or meeting people. Or fundraising. Or, like, even showing up to his own events. He was basically out of money at one point and was about to get passed by Tim Ryan, before his perpetual mentor Peter Thiel bailed him out yet again with a $30 million infusion that allowed him to finally get some separation...in a state that's about R+10. His own campaign officials hated him to the point it was leaking out pretty much weekly, mostly because he just did not seem to GAF. Right in the heart of his summer campaign kickoff, JD got a wild hair and decided to fly to Japan instead of doing campaign events on what seemed like pretty much a total lark. And then stayed there for eight days.
So it was more than a little surprising to see Donald decide he was their guy. Rubio would have eaten him alive head-to-head. I genuinely do not understand, beyond the fact that Peter Thiel almost certainly had a bunch to do with it. Given that Don Junior was the one who apparently convinced Donald to pick him, it genuinely wouldn't shock me if Thiel just outright bought Junior. Transactional exchange seems to be the MO for Team Trump, and has been since, well...when hasn't it been?
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The assassination attempt was never going to get him more votes
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Jul 24, 2024, 8:24 PM
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People have already made their minds up about Trump. They aren't changing them.
What people also decided upon was whether or not to even vote in this race because Trump and Biden are trash. That may have changed now with the replacement of Biden. Harris won't be a good president, IMO, but someone who isn't at death's door (Biden) and also a psychopath (Trump) will likely bring out some people who weren't going to vote.
At first, I thought Vance was actually a good pick for Trump, but now that some of his abortion views and opinions on family structure/people without kids have come to light, he's just going to alienate more independent voters that Trump desperately needs.
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Yeah, he should prob just shut up about that***
Jul 25, 2024, 1:52 PM
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A vote for KH in 2024 is 100x worse
Jul 25, 2024, 2:13 PM
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than a vote for Joe Biden in 2020. So glad so many of you ignorant loser leftists will now reveal your true commie colors.
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OBAMA IS THE WURST!
Jul 25, 2024, 2:18 PM
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NO BIDEN IS THE WURST!
NO KAMALA IS THE WURST!
It's almost like you're not serious.
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But I know why you think Kamala is the worst.***
Jul 25, 2024, 2:24 PM
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