Re: I lost a ton of respect for Kirk Herbstreit today

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Re: 65 Police officers died in the line of duty by 6/30/2020

Sep 6, 2020, 2:41 PM [ in reply to 65 Police officers died in the line of duty by 6/30/2020 ]

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Jesus please help us! A little background for my first post, been following Tnet for years tho cause I love my team and school. Sorry for getting long winded but just got fed up with the total BS on this site lately. My user name tells U who I am and I will say that I’m a white guy who hung out at times in school with Igwebuike and an all-American soccer player from Nigeria named Otorubio(sp?). We called him Oto. He was in the civil eng. program like me and needed lots of help and ultimately couldn’t make it, which is a shame cause he told me once “I would be treated as a HERO in my country if I return with that CE degree, not for any soccer accomplishments”. One final background note, lifelong moderate conservative in the vein of say a John McCain who believed in TRUTH, treating people with RESPECT and the principals and VALUES this country and the party were founded upon. Ok, back to my point and reply. What about the police and federal officers killed by far-right extremists that used the protests as cover. Pence mentioned a federal officer killed near Oakland and suggested that it was due to the BLM protest. What he did not say is that they arrested a far-right “Boogaloo” supporter for doing it and that he ambushed two local police officers, fatally shooting one, before being apprehended a week later. Look it up for yourself, and U will see that the internet can be used to find the TRUTH, U just have to wade thru BS like “plandemic” or some crazy as #### “Q” conspiracy theory to get there. Nowadays, truth becomes lies and lies become truths if someone repeats it enough(like "testing is causing all these Covid cases”). Total shame! For someone so interested in “LAW & ORDER” and “Blue Lives Matter”, I have a little question. Who is inciting some of the violence and not calling out the far-right? So, what about the above Blue Lives? And that was only one example and there are more and what about the 100+ Blue Lives that have been lost to Covid due to pathetic and totally inept leadership during this crisis? Not excusing the far-left as their violence tends to result in burnt property and cop cars, which results in wasted money and disrupted lives. But, U can’t replace a HUMAN LIFE. Also, so tired of hearing from “Christians” on here that so obviously can’t follow: “LOVE Thy Neighbor” but they can if U add “if they look and think EXACTLY like U”. As far as “systemic racism”, I’ll sum it all up and make it real simple, this is what it looks like to me …

IMO, this is the ultimate “why" for the race problem and I could delve deep there as to the reasons(some including policies like welfare and “the war on drugs”) but I won't. We would be much better off as a society if the black folk had gotten their much deserved “40 acres and a mule” way back when and then treated them with RESPECT as fellow human beings and Americans. To paraphrase Jesus, You will be judged as to how you treated the “least of thee”(see graph). Maybe, that judgement has occurred or is occurring in 2020. As for the election, it will be my first time voting Democratic cause it’s real simple, proven good and decent fellow versus a complete incompetent POS that does not have even one quality, principal or value that ANY human being should admire IMHO. Flame away! As for Kirk, I shed a tear with him, as any HUMAN BEING that has experienced pain should when seeing any other individual or mass group of individuals that are in PAIN, whether U fully agree with every aspect of their position or not. That said, others on ESPN have taken some things way too far and I don’t watch much anymore for what they did to another INCREDIBLE person, our much and mutually loved DABO. And yes, I did attend the BLM protest to support the team, the social justice statement and not so much the “ political movement” and when I passed any cop I saw it was “ we appreciate your service sir or ma’am”. IMO, this country needs to return to the core values and principals that made it great!

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FWIW, probably not much, I am a conservative white Christian voter who has not voted for a democrat in the last 40 years. I am also an old man and a child of the 60s who deeply regrets the racist actions of my home state and my whole country over the largest part of our 250 or so year history.

I hate the fact as a whole society we failed to live up to the ideals of our founding documents and my Christian faith for so very long. Slavery was a terrible thing. The rigid racial apartheid of SC, my home state, for 100 years after slavery kept the black population in an untouchable caste while our families went to church every Sunday and taught our kids, me included to sing RED AND YELLOW, BLACK AND WHITE, THEY ARE PRECIOUS IN HIS SIGHT. While singing that song and knowing we should love our neighbor we sent generations of black children of God to substandard schools, to deny black adults decent jobs and to pretty much reject African Americans entirely. I remember the 50s and 60s and so in a broad sense I understand the 100+ year plight of modern black Americans. Mostly about that era, I see our white ancestors a bit like criminals guilty of crimes against humanity that many of us today just wish to forget. God doesn't seem to agree that such a path or timeline is appropriate. After all Jews still celebrate their freedom from slavery 2500+ years ago.

Our jails are full to the brim of black men who are a product of the culture we created. Our police force is a quasi-militarily equipped force we send out in the streets every day dressed for war, carrying guys, clubs, and chemicals to subdue and punish American citizens for getting out of line. And our police force is too often too violent. In 2019 police officers in America killed right at 1000 Americans on the streets.

If a person looks at who we are and is not moved to weep at least a little, I feel sorry for that cold close to dead heart and sad for such a shallow mind.

So I am good with whom Herbstreit is and the fact the reality of life in America makes him cry when he thinks about it.

I lost a ton of respect for Kirk Herbstreit today

Cut him some slack.

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Kirk is Shilling to save his $2 Million $ per year Paycheck