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I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:05 PM
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at the end of this season. He is having a good year which is unusual for SC and he has 34 seniors on his team. Next year looks bleak for SC even with his major use of the portal. He knows you can not win consistently at SC but could build a more consistent winner at VT. His Dad would love for him to improve on the Beamer legacy. Just my opinion as I have no inside info. However I was wrong back in 1989 when I thought Clemson would never fire our beloved Danny Ford.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:06 PM
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This is all the rage in the Richmond ESPN talk radio world.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:16 PM
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Yes, Coach Fry did not have a good look on his face before or after the game. My thoughts are Frank- his Dad is politicking heavily to have another Beamer at VT. The timing is perfect as VT continues to struggle while the gamecocks stock is rising. However, with losing 34 seniors along with some of their best being bought off who would want to stick around. Shane built this team for moving on after this year. Beamer is a Dabo type that can be successful in the right situation.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 14, 2024, 4:38 AM
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I was gonna say...I'm hearing from a lot of Hokie faithful a lot of vitriol for Frye. I don't remember his name standing out on any pre-season 'hot seats', but I get the feeling the base is headed that way now and it will be for next year.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:31 PM
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He seems to have the coots playing playing some decent FB this season. They lost to LSU by a field goal, they lost to Bama by 2 points, but Ole Missy put a butt whipping on them!!!
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:32 PM
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If that’s what he wants then he’ll get it. But why leave coots for VPI? Somewhat of a lateral move at best. And in a conference that’s treading water.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:41 PM
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That's what some people are saying, but I don't see any evidence of the ACC treading water, not yet anyway...
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:43 PM
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You can never win at SC on a consistent basis-impossible. You can build a consistent winner with the VT program. Ask Steve Spurrier if you don’t believe me.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 10:03 PM
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Wrong.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 11, 2024, 7:46 AM
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Why is he wrong? History suggests otherwise. BTW Beamer loses all of his major contributors on defense after this season.....surely you know that since you've come out of the closet as a coot?
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VAtech has a history of Championships, Beamer grew up watching them in their heyday. They even played for a BCS Naty one year. That can never happen at SC and he knows it. He is in the graveyard of coaches at Cola and he knows that, too. He would be one of the very few who got out on top rather than being run out of town by the press, media, the board and insane fan base. Horrible place to coach, Columbia. Compare that to the virtual heaven on earth around Blacksburg and a kind media and fan base. No decision, really.
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He may or may not have earned it, but SB will get an opportunity to upgrade
Nov 11, 2024, 9:41 AM
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And given their respective situations in terms of conference and ability to compete, VT should be considered an upgrade. I don’t really see any better SEC jobs coming his way.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 10:53 PM
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Where is it easier to win in football VT or SC. If you can’t answer that correctly then no reason for us to discuss further.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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He ain't going nowhere. He loves it in Columbia. He's building the program and culture just like Dabo did. Great values. Don't think Dabo's a God like you people think and that he's unique. He isn't.
Yes, he can and will win at south carolina. He's recruited well and recruiting well this year. Probably end up above us in recruiting. But he can develop talent too. Spurrier loved Spurrier. Shane isn't Spurrier.
He's one of the few good ones. Wish him all the best. Why would any decent coach leave for an acc school?
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Time to change your screen name to cootgalalways.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Just because she’s spitting facts?
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 11, 2024, 7:28 AM
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Hey, another coot
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 11, 2024, 7:47 AM
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Shut up coot
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 8:19 AM
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You shut up, Coot
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 10, 2024, 10:35 PM
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There are some decent schools with decent programs in the ACC, along with coaches that make more money than most coaches in any conference.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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If he loves it in Columbia there is something wrong with him. Lived there 10 years and couldn’t wait to get out of that dump.
You coots were ready to fire him, now all of a sudden he’s building something? Yeah, ok.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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He apparently loves it there and never wants to leave. Working under spirrrier there in the past somehow gave him a fire for that to one day be his home 😂
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Tell 'em nothing since 1969 coot. No one knows losing better than you.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 11, 2024, 5:52 AM
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Clemgal.........I see what you are saying, but it cannot be done there. I have been watching the shenanigans down there since the late 1950's and the culture is so odd and weird, with meddling politicians, media and rotten fans, they are only able to achieve in small spurts from time to time. Any achievement for a few years is body slammed back to reality by the culture. Call it the Chicken Curse, call it a losing attitude, whatever you call it, it is real and I watched it play out and destroy many a good man down there over the last 50+ years. It's like watching Groundhog Day over and over, just a different ######. Ask Paul Dietzel, Ask Steve Spurrier. The Curse is real and it is rotten to the core.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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You forgot the legendary Loose Bolts!
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Well said and I agree. Some Clemson fans are too biased to step back and examine what’s really happening at SCAR. Beamer is still growing as a HC (and needs to IMO), but he’s recruiting well, working the portal well (save for one year when they lacked NIL funds), and NIL is continuing to improve there, too. They’re going to be more relevant in a world where 12 teams get into a playoff.
We need to worry about our school, not theirs. We have plenty of issues without concerning ourselves with what Beamer & Co are doing.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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This HAS to be the biggest fall from grace ever on this board. I suppose one can only keep up the charade for so long.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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SC is and has always been a coaching graveyard. It’s just a fact. You have Steve Spurrier and Lou Holtz and you win the SEC East 1 time. I’m not sure what you have against Dabo and I’m not saying Beamer is a bad guy by any stretch, but they are not winning anything in football.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 10:59 PM
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You must be a blinded gamecock. You have 34 seniors this year with one of your defensive players demanding a million to return next year. You going to be back next year to no bowla. No one in history as a SC coach has ever been able to win in a consistent manner. That part is not going to change with Shane. He knows that.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 11:04 PM
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Clemgal, why are you on this board? This must be your first year of being a gamecock. Do you not know of their failing history. As they say history repeats itself. Losing 34 seniors next year and having a few of their best being bought by other teams, they won’t even make the Mayo bowl next season.
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Absolutely Right Clem Gal
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Nov 11, 2024, 11:04 PM
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There's way too much ESPN/SEC money in Columbia to leave the gig. In comparison, VA TECH and the ACC are broke. With TV revenue soon to be available for NIL payments, SCU will have double the TV money of CLEMSON and VA TECH. So why leave for a lesser and broker program?
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I agree he isn't going anywhere but
Nov 12, 2024, 7:40 AM
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Would probably have more sustained success at VT. However, it's be dumb to leave given the current landscape of college football and ACC uncertainty.
I have been very impressed with the team he has this year but they do still have three losses. And a very good chance they end up with four or five.
He has done a great job with the portal and recruiting but it will be interested in to see what it looks like in the next few years. His on the field product is not consistent. If he doesn't make the playoffs by 2026, they'll run him out of there.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 10, 2024, 10:21 PM
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Might be his dream job but if not he should not leave sc for vt.
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Doubt he would leave an SEC job***
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No coach that isn't fired would leave the SEC for the ACC right now
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that would be simply a dumb move.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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VT can't afford that move. No way they can outbid an SEC school for a coach.
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He’s not leaving them. In his own words he is at his “dream school” and he wants to coach there as long as they will have him until he retires lol.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Well, you're a coot you ought to know after all....maybe you should go to FGF where you belong.
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Well, I've lived in the Columbia area for over 52 years now, and
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freely admit I have very close friends who are Carolina alumni and fans.
In fact there are nearly 40,000 Clemson alumni here, and you'd have to be a recluse not to have Gamecock friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc., contrary to what you read on TigerNet.
What I hear are words of excitement, although cautious, for their program. Additionally, their BOT has just approved major renovations to Willy B. and the surrounding area, which I believe to be efforts to eliminate the old warehouse look, which they have been addressing for some time.
Hence, my thinking is Beamer would be better advised to stay put, tackle their deficiencies head on, as Dabo did for us, because he'll have an open checkbook to do so. I keep thinking back to the Lou Holtz' years and their 11-0, 1-ll seasons, and Carolina fans still packed Willy B. for games, even tearing down the goalposts when they finally beat New Mexico State for the first win in two years. They have been loyal to the program.
There is, however, that one, old bugaboo they'll have to confront: the nefarious, ever-lurking Chicken Curse, which my Carolina friends and I joke about. If Beamer can keep that monster buried, he might be on to something. lol.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Why would he? Cause of his dad’s time there. Carolina is a better job right now and the ACC money is not even in the same planet. He has a good lil pile of nice players and that gonna get better the more he gets player to buy in.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 6:55 AM
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No, he’ll restock via the portal ..
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 7:35 AM
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Not sure Shane would want to set himself up for that. Ferentz never got a good shot at it when Frank retired. Why? Because Frank was still there. On campus. Ferentz couldn't do anything without someone in the AD saying, "Let's see what Franks says first". I don't know if that would still be the case, but there sure would be a lot of "Thank ain't the way Frank done it" anytime things so south.
Good or bad, Shane needs to make his legacy somewhere else.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 8:12 AM
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If he wanted to go there, he could have prior to going to usc. I’ve heard Tiger fans say “I hope he stays there forever”. That was the same thing usc fans were saying while we were getting 5 bombed. I’m not sure how he could motivate anyone but he’s done a lot better this year than I expected.
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Please Lord let it be
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I would love for Shane to come back to Blacksburg. However, I am also a realist. The facilities and $ at an $EC school far surpass what VT could pay him or provide. The pressure would be infinitely less at Tech though and I think he would improve upon recruiting instantaneously. Our current guy, is someone you would love to hang out with and go fishing.
Our problem is we hired a coach with NO head coaching experience and our DC and OC had never held those positions before.
Also, we had a great time with the Clemson fans this weekend at the game.
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VT is a worse job right now with the ACC turmoil
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It's also been about 15 years since they were truly a conference title contender.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 9:30 AM
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He should go - I think that's the first coach the cucks have had that I liked. He doesn't fit their program; he's a bit classier than Chump, Slurrier, Holzth or whoever. Continue on with the Beamer legacy at VT.
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VT DID NOT want him because of Wakey Leaks
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. If he's smart, he'll use this propped up success,with 40 something Seniors to bail on that Craphole.
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FSU 2023 = SCAR 2024
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Live by the portal…
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No one is leaving the $EC for the ACC
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The ACC will be FCS in 10 years....
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 1:29 PM
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If Dabo uses the NIL and Portal to make his roster elite again, there is no reason for you people to fear Shane Beamer. Jesus. Everyone on Clemson’s schedule have benefited from Dabo trying to fight with 2 arms tied behind his back.
The UL loss and God help us, a loss to the chickens, will put an end to his holier than thou stance.
It’s time to get the eff with it.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Going to take big bucks to get him from there. Makes good money, they have plenty of money and expectations are meh down there. He would be a hero to win 8 a year. Which I will admit they do have a much tougher schedule than ours. I don’t say that every year just because they are in the SEC, but this years schedule for us is beyond pathetic.
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i dont see it..he has the coots trending up
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and is building his own thing there.. at v tech he would have huge shoes to fill being his dads
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 6:50 PM
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I’d have to see that to believe it.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 7:31 PM
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He could stay at SC another year or two, then go to Oklahoma if Venables doesn’t make it.
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A move to VT makes sense in the landscape of college football 5 yrs ago, but now it’s P2 and everyone else. Beamer might end up leaving while the getting is good, but it might be some place like Maryland as his next opportunity to build a program.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 11:12 PM
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He is headed to VT at the end of the year.
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Solid Orange [1333]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 14, 2024, 12:05 AM
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Proof?
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 11, 2024, 8:56 PM
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First of all Prye has to get fired this year. Not happening! He’s in his 3rd year I believe and VT doesn’t have the bank to buy out his contract. Prye was the only coach they could afford to hire. So Shane will have to kill it in the portal next year w/ all the seniors leaving this year. Next season the chickens will back on the bottom.
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110%er [3654]
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Shane Beamer could make history as the first coot coach
Nov 12, 2024, 6:45 AM
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to take a head coaching job at another school!
There are only 2 Coot HC's that were ever head coached at another school. Sparky Woods, later at VMI and Shawn Elliotts (UofSC Interim HC when Spurrier bolted), at Ga St, now back as TE coach at UofSC. Marvin Bass did coach in the CFL.
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Paw Warrior [5069]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 12, 2024, 6:50 AM
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I don't see how you could leave the huge SEC money advantage. Until that changes I don't see many SEC coaches leaving for ACC/Big 12/Pac jobs.
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110%er [3717]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 12, 2024, 6:53 AM
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Virginia Tech is not a better job than the job Beamer currently has.
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 12, 2024, 9:45 AM
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It could be if VT inserted the monies needed. SC is where coaches go to die. Besides money there is no upside to being in Columbia. Screw the conference affiliation. Older Beamer had VT in better shape than at any time in SC football history and that includes their time in the SEC. Next you will be telling us the Vandy job is great.
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Game Changer [2090]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 13, 2024, 1:11 PM
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Maybe not, but he grew up there and it has to be a part of his heart and it's definitely a place where he can win and get paid more than enough.
Plus, he wouldn't have to listen to that silly rooster crowing over and over again.
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Game Changer [2090]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 13, 2024, 8:54 AM
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What I find silly about this entire thread is the supposed Clemson fans that supposedly know what Beamer wants or feels. Unless you are his wife, you probably aren't going to know whether he likes Columbia better than Blacksburg.
I've been to both and that part of Virginia is incredible, while I didn't care for Columbia at all. Look at the national rankings right now and you'll see that 4 out of the top 5 schools are actually Big 10 and a Big 10 team won the national title last season. It's possible to win at VT and would be easier than at SC, actually.
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Solid Orange [1361]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
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Nov 13, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Yep, a lateral move with massively bigger upside. He will die at SC before ever getting them anywhere close to being a contender. He has to know that is not going to happen by now. Every year it will be the one or two game peak into the top 25 and then slumping back to 40+.
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Rival Killer [2868]
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Re: I look for Shane Beamer to leave for Virginia Tec
Nov 13, 2024, 1:16 PM
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Lmao Beamer is a clown...people all excited for 2 wins over overrated teams. We will kick the 💩 outra them this year and his seat will be warm again as usual.
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