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Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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to have decreased. Usually around Feb. or March of past 6 years, I've been selling my lower Deck North season ticket and parking package for a considerable markup. This year I put off advertising until mid March, and after looking at the schedule & realizing only 6 home games, I put ad on with almost no markup. And after 2 weeks of having ad run, not a single inquiry. What's up with this, ye say?
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u can also tell by the extension they offered us on payment
Mar 29, 2021, 11:10 AM
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they've never extended the deadline before... signs that sales aren't as high as they had hoped.
But i suspect 2022 will get back to normal demand.
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What extension? I haven't heard. The only deadline thus
Mar 29, 2021, 11:43 AM
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far has been the March 15th 50% Iptay deadline. Fill me in please!
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I think the 50% deadline is in normally in feburary***
Mar 29, 2021, 12:29 PM
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 11:15 AM
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I believe there are a lot of people who evaluated their lives over the past year. Many have concluded that paying thousands of $$$ per year to see 6 or 7 football games in person is crazy. Especially so when every freaking game is on TV and you can typically buy tickets on the secondary market for well under face value.
Combine this with the players becoming woke it seems the house of cards is a little shaky.
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I agree. Alot of folks are realizing they can do without.
Mar 29, 2021, 1:08 PM
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When players start getting paid, it will decrease even more. Enjoy college football while you can, cause it is about to be ruined.
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or uncertainty on whether they will even be allowed to attend games.
Mar 29, 2021, 3:22 PM
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Hopefully, the Government and Experts will let us know soon when we can have our country back.
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Re: or uncertainty on whether they will even be allowed to attend games.
Mar 29, 2021, 5:47 PM
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Let’s hope that’s not who we will rely on.
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Agree. Clemson athletes deciding to get in the middle of
Mar 31, 2021, 6:55 AM
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the whole left moving political movements just broke my spirit a bit. I did some thinking on it and decided to back away.
I had stopped spending money on pro sports a few years back when the kneeling started(no more merchandise or tickets), then stopped watching Pro sports completely a couple years later.
But, they have made it clear they don't want me as a fan anyway, so the NFL/NBA/MLB are probably happy.
SO now that money will be held back from Clemson sports and go towards other improvements or types of entertainment.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Posted: Mar 29, 2021, 11:02 AM
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to have decreased. Usually around Feb. or March of past 6 years, I've been selling my lower Deck North season ticket and parking package for a considerable markup. This year I put off advertising until mid March, and after looking at the schedule & realizing only 6 home games, I put ad on with almost no markup. And after 2 weeks of having ad run, not a single inquiry. What's up with this, ye say?
here is what i say. i hope you choke on every ticket.
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Top TigerNet [32630]
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Ouch..
Mar 29, 2021, 11:27 AM
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Unpleasant choke right? Nothing debilitating.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 1:18 PM
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So I guess it’s all right for you to tell someone to hope they choke and die but yet you call out someone that too bad you didn’t die from Covid ? You are an A ss hole De!
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Thumbs up and screw the thumbs downer... He is, and
Mar 29, 2021, 9:54 PM
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consistently...
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems [1]
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So I guess it’s all right for you to tell someone to hope they choke and die but yet you call out someone that too bad you didn’t die from Covid ? You are an A ss hole De!
old goofy wanting someone to die is a compliment. guessing you are still upset that your buddy sully took an a$$ ###### last weekend.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 10:04 PM
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plus the fact that you can no longer scr ew people out of their money scalping tickets anymore.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 30, 2021, 12:29 AM
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True. IPTAY does that. They collaborated with StubHub, saw what people were getting in what sections and then jacked up the seat equity to take it all. Those nice new IPTAY offices didn’t come cheap.
When Dabo hangs it up someday and the demand drops and whale donors stop, the current crew grinning and slapping themselves on the back at the great job they are doing milking Dado’s success will simply bolt.
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Not gonna lie
Mar 30, 2021, 10:38 PM
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There's a part of me that looks forward to Clemson resuming not being the ticket du jour for corporate entertainment expense acct holders.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but when did the ticket packages become available? I just recently made my donation to IPTAY.
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They haven't. OP is probably assuming he will
Mar 29, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Get the same tickets. It is a logical assumption if he got tickets last year.
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All-Conference [444]
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Yes correct. I've been getting same pair of lower Deck North
Mar 29, 2021, 3:05 PM
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seats for about 12 years, with exception of 2020 reassignment to upper deck for 1 year. Iptay'er since they gave grads a free membership upon graduation in 1992. Paid dues since 93 and put time in being assigned upper deck south for years.
TigerNet ran an article 2 or 3 weeks back saying CUAD expected a packed Death Valley this fall.
Lots of folks pre-sell their packages in order to have the buyer forking over the $$ upon Clemson deadlines.
And by the way, according to their terms of last year, you did not have to buy season tickets to maintain your standing with seating. Some got zero tickets, some got zIptay refunds. These customers that passed on last year were promised to not be penalized for this 2021 year.
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Re: Yes correct. I've been getting same pair of lower Deck North
Mar 29, 2021, 5:15 PM
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It’s more fun to actually go to games. Why even bother getting tickets to just sell them? You can’t be making any profit...
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Re: Yes correct. I've been getting same pair of lower Deck North
Mar 30, 2021, 12:46 AM
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It used to be that if you were a long time donor and season ticket holder, through thick and thin - and there were some thin times - you eventually got really good seats. Selling some of those with the “equity” built up over years you could get the tickets you keep paid for basically. Still go to games. Still have fun. Clemson was way more generous than say Bama on how many seats you could buy. Didn’t take a huge donation to get 8 seats. Sell 4, get your 4 for free. We sat next to some people that had 35 seats, mostly South Lower.
The “seat equity plan” is IPTAY’s way of taking all that now. There is really no advantage to being a season ticket holder anymore, except maybe away game tickets and Championship games at face. Just buy what you want off StubHub and let someone else make the huge investment that may or may not payoff.
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Re: Yes correct. I've been getting same pair of lower Deck North
Mar 30, 2021, 3:30 AM
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IPTAY is our fundraiser. I when we decided to support football and an increased staff that we were sold would be essential to a championship football, IPTAY responded. Remember it is essential for Clemson to pay three football coaches 13.4 million a year to coach.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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the season ticket application should be coming out soon, they just closed the 50% donation deadline, also they had the spring game applications open, but they ended up opening to public, since the alloted amount didn't sell out to iptay members
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 12:51 PM
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I have our lower deck tickets (K and L, 2 in each section) posted with zero markup ... have had 3 inquiries but no takers.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 12:51 PM
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I think for folks looking on the secondary market there's too much uncertainty about capacity, what games you might get if you can't get tickets for all, where your assigned seats might be, etc.
People could deal with that sort of uncertainty if those issues were resolved say before Memorial Day, but if it is going to come down to August like last year, then people will say screw it, I'll just buy single game tickets on Stubhub (because sure as hell there won't be single game ticket sales again in 2021).
I bought season tickets for both Clemson football and the NFL last fall, and I was allowed to go to zero games (my state quarantine rules if i had travelled to South Carolina were too onerous for my job). Nevertheless I'm buying both pairs of season tickets this fall. I can hope.
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I gotta agree with John stone. Getting harder
Mar 29, 2021, 1:15 PM
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And harder to justify the amount of money needed to go to football games.
Ticket Prices keep going up and up while TVs keep getting bigger, neyr, and cheaper.
Get yout an 120 inch screen with 7.2 surround sound, turn off the ac, and invite your cousin from boston to scream obscenities...
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Re: I gotta agree with John stone. Getting harder
Mar 29, 2021, 1:28 PM
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Why not act as if you have the country club seating in DV with the A/C, and all the luxuries of the rich Tiger fans!!!
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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Starting March 31, 2021, everyone 17 and older in SC can make an appointment to receive a covid 19 vaccination if the want one. with this being the case, I really don't see a reason for seating to be limited in DV this coming FB season.
I do think that in order to prevent a non vaccinated person from contracting the covid virus, every person entering Death Valley for the purpose of seeing a schedule FB game this coming season, they must show their vaccination card, showing that they have had both vaccination shots, with a valid picture ID. And deny anyone without both, the vaccination card, accompanied with a valid picture ID. Do that, and DV should be back to the same fan level as pre covid 19 virus, with the same, or greater noise level without anyone dying bc of the covid 19 virus!!!!
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Guess....no football for me. Too bad they
Mar 29, 2021, 1:23 PM
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Couldn't tell us that before our iptay donation. Oh well.
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Re: Guess....no football for me. Too bad they
Mar 29, 2021, 1:53 PM
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Sorry that you feel that your life/safety, and the life/safety of everyone you come in contact with isn't more important than seeing a live sporting event. I will venture to guess that a IPTAY donation isn't worth one death of another IPTAY member that has been paying dues for 40-50 years, or one that just join IPTAY today. The IPTAY members that would be dying, would be the older members that have been paying IPTAY most of their lives...
The covid 19 virus vaccination is free, and it should be a must have before packing 80+ thousand into Death Valley, Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: Guess....no football for me. Too bad they
Mar 29, 2021, 2:05 PM
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Sorry that you feel that your life/safety, and the life/safety of everyone you come in contact with isn't more important than seeing a live sporting event. I will venture to guess that a IPTAY donation isn't worth one death of another IPTAY member that has been paying dues for 40-50 years, or one that just join IPTAY today. The IPTAY members that would be dying, would be the older members that have been paying IPTAY most of their lives...
The covid 19 virus vaccination is free, and it should be a must have before packing 80+ thousand into Death Valley, Go Tigers!!!!
Overly dramatic much? We had to wear the mask to protect others but “others” can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Anything more than that is overreach
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Thanks..but you dont need to apologize. If that is a rule.. it's a rule
Mar 29, 2021, 3:09 PM
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I thought it made it clear that seeing a sporting contest is NOt as important to me as refusing the vaccine. I apologize if my post was confusing.
Just wish I would know about the rule sooner than later.
We are Past the donation deadline so too late for that. Hopefully they will determine the rules before ticket money is due. I imagine iptay would refund us like they did last year so I'm not too worried about it. They've been pretty reasonable so far.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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I am optimistic about being at DV this fall. I'll be vaccinated, and since my daughter's free weekends are limited, I can only go to a few games, and I have previewed that with IPTAY who told me that they would work with me to make sure I had seats for the games we could make.
P.S. that discussion was earlier this year when I got a call from IPTAY thanking me for my donation and giving me the name of a contact person at IPTAY who I could be talking to. I think they are very concerned about renewals.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
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I don’t have to show a picture ID to vote...I won’t be showing one to get into a game. I also refuse to carry around a vaccination card. Should I also carry around details of my last colonoscopy?
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I think people are just wary of what the stadium policies
Mar 29, 2021, 1:54 PM
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will look like this year.
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Re: I think people are just wary of what the stadium policies
Mar 29, 2021, 3:16 PM
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This is real simple, come if you want. Don't come if you don't want to. I will be there and I am fully vaccinated!
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Yessir - I was just responding to the OPs question.***
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 9:05 PM
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Well. I will be purchasing two season tickets between the 35’s on the lower deck from someone this year. Same as all the other years. My wife has had her shots. Lol.
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Mar 29, 2021, 9:31 PM
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It’s gotten out of hand and I think a lot of people have said nuff. I enjoy going to games more so than watching on t.v, but you factor in now that players are consistently wanting to be treated as employees along with a paid for education.
I said at the time the woke Summer of ‘20 was turning some fans off. And it could not have come at a worse time as they were then asking fans to donate money for a year you weren’t even eligible to get your tickets Fall’20. Add to that a horrible home schedule , decreased parking options, and lack of facilities inside Memorial Stadium along with going through a Airport checkpoint to get into the stadium.
Hopefully all this doesn’t make our new players “equality”, “love”, “ BLM” , “reparations” , or “justice” transfer to another school!
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Get woke go broke
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The whole Wokeness of the team last year turned off a lot of people. You couldn't see it in fan turnout due to Covid.
Also if they due start requiring vaccine passports to go to games that makes no sense. If someone wants to take a vaccine and they feel they are now protected, someone who isn't vaccinated can't hurt them. Also if someone wants to be not vaccinated and take that risk, that is on that person, just like if someone wants to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. They determine the level of risk they want to take and live their life.
Also, the vaccine shouldn't be mandatory for anything, it is not approved by the FDA, it has not been fully tested, no one knows the long term potential side effects on an entirely new type of vaccination. If you feel it is safer to have the vaccine then go for it, if you feel safer not then do that, simple as that, shouldn't be a requirement for any part of life.
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Bad analogy. A non-helmet wearing motorcycle rider can only
Mar 30, 2021, 8:08 AM
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splatter his own brains on someone's windshield.
A nonvaccinated person can be infected and spread Covid to a whole bunch of other nonvaccinated individuals.
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True..but
Mar 30, 2021, 8:39 AM
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A nonvaccinated person can be infected and spread the flu. Measles. Chickpox, covid 1-18 to a whole bunch of other nonvaccinated individuals.
Where does it end.. ...and how far will it go.
Will we all get Silkwooded before entering a stadium?
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 29, 2021, 11:26 PM
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What's up with that is COVID is still with us. The uncertainty of it all is not worth it to some.
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Yes, I get all the reasons named. A move out of state for employment combined with the seat tax knocked me out after 45 years. No way to justify the spend. I get offered an extra ticket frequently but the parking nightmare sometimes dulls the urge. Being elderly, the electronic ticket also makes me uncomfortable. Had a friend that went to see the Tigers for the first time in years during this past season. He was unable to purchase a ticket because all he had was a flip phone? He said screw it, he's not buying a phone to see a game. I had paper tickets to games 2 years ago but didn't attend last year - is it going all electronic or do season ticket holders have an option?
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Mar 30, 2021, 2:09 PM
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The answer is simple... Your schedule quality other than your 1st game is not worth what they are charging for it.
Play quality games.. Charge quality price.
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 30, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Looking at your schedule, your tickets must be free this year! At least Nichols State and Buffalo gave you a good game!
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Be nice. Some people think scar. Mizzou, tenn
Mar 30, 2021, 3:22 PM
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Vandy, ark, and kentucky are good teams.
You shouldn't pick on people with limited mental capacity.
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Re: Be nice. Some people think scar. Mizzou, tenn
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Yep, you are right. Maybe her should have looked at his own schedule before declaring someone else's not so attractive.
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It's a combination of factors.
Mar 30, 2021, 3:39 PM
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1. Uncertainty surrounding what life will look like then. Will COVID still be a concern? Will stadiums be at full capacity? Will tailgating be allowed?
2. Financial outlay. People are probably thinking twice about how they spend their money, either because they have suffered financially during the pandemic or wonder if they might.
3. All games are on TV in HD, with a great view of the action, substantially reduced concession prices, and (theoretically cleaner) bathrooms with no line. Plus no sitting in traffic, etc.
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I don’t want this to seem personal because it is not. But if I had the money to buy good seats and a parking pass I could not make money off of a fellow Tiger. There have been some really kind people on Tigernet that have sold me tickets at their cost. And one member actually gave me SC vs Clemson tickets so I could take my Dad.
It was a very kind gesture by this family because my sister and I knew my mom would be leaving us soon. To me it’s not about the money. It would just be hard for me to profit off of another Tiger Fan. In earlier days because I was financially able I would even have given tickets away.
I understand it’s each person’s decision as to what they do with their tickets.
Message was edited by: wueagle86®
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Clemson Conqueror [11858]
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 31, 2021, 2:12 PM
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I know where you are coming from. I have sold tickets for face value, way more than face, way less than face, and given them away. It is hard to say that one size fits all and every scenario is the same. Not a single purchaser when I sold them has asked if they could help with my IPTAY contribution, which as you know is a prerequisite to being permitted to buy tickets. Most buyers forget that when they ask ticket holders to sell them at face. That's OK too, but just remember the face value of the ticket is only part of the story. I am sure that you do, but many don't.
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110%er [3663]
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 30, 2021, 10:31 PM
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How can demand for tickets be down when they don't even start selling them for 1 day, 9 hours 29 minutes?
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Future's market analysis***
Mar 31, 2021, 4:11 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9959]
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Re: Demand for purchase of football season ticket packages seems
Mar 30, 2021, 10:33 PM
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Football games were a must for my first 45 years of season tickets but when I opted out last fall, I realized I could live without it. Football tickets and IPTAY are large financial expenses and then you have to buy food, beer etc, pack the car, unpack in the parking lot, pack the car again and then weary from the long day unpack when you get home. Since all the games are on tv, after all the years it is just easier to stay home.
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