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Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?
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Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:12 AM
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Do they want to be fsu?

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Yep.... The transfer portal is

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:13 AM
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a cure all.

Go Tigers!!!

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Re: Yep.... The transfer portal is


Sep 3, 2024, 8:13 AM
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I think Kirby would agree with you.

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Re: Yep.... The transfer portal is


Sep 3, 2024, 12:27 PM
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I think Kirby knows there are select few in portal better than his recruits and has boosters willing to pay for them. Not sure dabo has the booster that is will to give millions a year for a couple players.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:16 AM
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Idk anyone that wants to use the portal as much as FSU or Colorado.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:23 AM
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Yep. FSU is a great example of how not to use the portal.

UGA, Bama, and Ohio State are good examples as to how it can help you. Small doses can make a good team a great team.

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UGA, Bama, and Ohio State were good way before the portal

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:34 AM
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All three out recruit everybody else on the high school level as well. All three would be just fine without the portal.

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Re: UGA, Bama, and Ohio State were good way before the portal

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:43 AM
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But yet they don’t shun it. They use it in small doses to improve their team.

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You really thought you were cooking with this one too***

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:21 AM
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Re: You really thought you were cooking with this one too***


Sep 3, 2024, 9:33 AM
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Been a lot of these since last night. Mostly from new accounts.

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Re: You really thought you were cooking with this one too***


Sep 3, 2024, 10:14 AM
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All the Dabo Fan Boys

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Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:29 AM
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3-0 right now. They are the only teams in FBS that use the portal less than us. Maybe we are using it too much?

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Re: Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:52 AM
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Would we even be having this conversation if the 3 OLs we offered last year out of the portal had signed with us?

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Re: Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined


Sep 3, 2024, 9:24 AM
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Good point.

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Re: Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined


Sep 3, 2024, 9:46 AM [ in reply to Re: Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined ]
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Probably because even then they were looking for guys to bring in and develop. We clearly needs some instant impact guys.

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Re: Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:37 AM [ in reply to Air Force, Army and Navy are a combined ]
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Sounds like we have a winning strategy!
Wait, we lost.

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Correct


Sep 3, 2024, 11:53 AM
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But only 0% of the teams that use the portal less than us lost, so…

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:29 AM
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LOL, nobody wants to be Colorado or even FSU, but we sure could have used a kicker last year and looks like a WR this. Do you really think Clemson's culture would be destroyed by adding 2 to 4 immediate impact players via the portal? If so, then our culture isn't what many claim it to be.

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Thats not how the portal works.

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:39 AM
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You can’t just wait until a highly recruited kicker misses a few kicks and then go ###### one out of the portal midseason. Portal aint open.

You also can’t just verbally whip every issue seen using hindsight with the portal either. It’s not a time machine.

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Re: Thats not how the portal works.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:02 AM
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No mierda Sherlock, but you can't tell me the coaches didn't know our place kicker was a weak spot going into last year. If they didn't then we have grandes problemas.

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I am liking the Espanol.***

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:21 AM
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He was behind Potter in '22 and had no FG attempts. Prior to that he was

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Thats not how the portal works. ]
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the #8 ranked kicking prospect according to 24/7, so he obviously was able to make A LOT of kicks and did so consistently.

Maybe there were some signs in the spring prior to '23? And if so, do you just run out and try to find more kickers? We've not historically given kickers schollies and if Gunn is on one at the time you certainly don't hand out a 2nd one for a kicker (that may be unprecedented). So you go try to find essentially another walk on to add to the other walk ons? And do so prior to the end of April or whenever the portal closes?

Things aren't always as simple as just rolling the guy off under a shade tree and producing another player. THA PORTAHL ain't always the fix some of ya'll think it is.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:36 AM
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If you don’t think taking a wide receiver, running back and corner from the portal wouldn’t have helped us this year, I don’t know what to tell you. I certainly don’t think you should take 20 players a year, but two or three to fill holes on your roster as long as they’re a good fit for your program makes a lot of sense to me.

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Shoot, what about a DE?


Sep 3, 2024, 8:22 AM
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Get Woods back in the middle. LB for sure, and get McCloud on the four deep instead of in UGA games getting meaningful snaps and looking silly.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 9:12 AM [ in reply to Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning? ]
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Clemsons name alone would be an easy sell for a lot of players. Clemson is just known for being closed for business in the portal

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:40 AM
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We want to have a good QB and a game-changing receiver. We could’ve added that with the portal

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:47 AM
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Nobody wants to turn the roster over every year but adding a couple of pieces can make a real difference. We have a first round DT playing DE because of a lack of depth, we were hearing reports that we might have to start a true freshman at CB because of depth. Fact is if you don’t portal some and only replace departures with true freshman you’re getting younger every year.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:58 AM
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At some point you have to decide if you are going to be the Hunter or the Hunted. We get less than 20 commits on average and lose 4-5 to the portal very year while taking nobody. The math doesn’t work there.

UGA, Bama, ND, OSU, Mich etc are the Hunters. Duke, Vandy, South Carolina, Wake, GT are the hunted. They lose top players every year to elite programs.

Dabo is going to let the portal kill the back end of his coaching legacy if he doesn’t adapt. Get 4-5 guys a year. Maybe hit on 2 or 3. That’s not FSU. That is what top programs are going to do until something changes.

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:44 AM
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100% right just fill some gaps. But dang if we’re already not killing it in NIL funds see what happens going forward. The donors that are giving are going to start to wonder why are we paying for this? Why are we giving money to pay a team that has no offense 4 season in a row? Dabos made some real effort at real changes with the coaching staff lately. Hopefully he does the same with NIL and selective portal usage.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:54 AM
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I’d kill to be 2-0 GT with Haynes King right now vs 0-1.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 8:33 AM
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Key has done a nice job at GT and they have gotten some talented transfers so maybe not the best example. I was referring to guys like J Gibbs transferring to Bama.

Regardless, they beat a bad FSU team. Let’s see how the season plays out. No way GT runs the ball on Georgia like they did on FSU. They are going to lose some games.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 7:59 AM
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false argument - the fsu model sucks but selective / smart use is great and has been proven

look at miami, georgia and others

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 8:02 AM
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I don’t pretend to know how to navigate this portal era and I can’t imagine being a coach in this mess. But I played a sport in college and I promise you cohesion matters! I don’t know how a coach could balance “portal help” with not messing up team chemistry. It’s a mess.

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I don't understand the cohesion aspect of


Sep 3, 2024, 8:14 AM
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it. I'm not arguing or disagreeing, honestly don't get it. I get it if your abusing it like Colorado or FL. State with double digit guys but 5 to 6 guys just seems like normal turnover to me with a large roster.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:26 AM
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I don’t disagree that it can be ok if used within reason and not the foundation of your program. Let me ask you a question and I promise I don’t mean this in a negative way. Did you play a team sport at a fairly high level? If you did I think the cohesion part would make more sense. It’s hard to explain but when you know and love your teammates, and know and accept your own role on the team , trust your coaches,etc it’s a lot more fun and productive going to battle together.

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I didn't and I get that bond, especially at positions


Sep 3, 2024, 8:41 AM
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like OLine can be crucial. I guess I'm looking at it from the perspective of average turnover for a college team per year is a certain number already and wouldn't think 5 or 6 portal additions would make that huge of a difference. Aren't we already kind of having that replacing the transfer outs we have each year?

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Sep 3, 2024, 10:05 AM
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Yeah you make a good point. Maybe football is different with such a large number of players. I was not a football player. Baseball was my sport in college and cohesion seemed to really matter. I played some basketball too (not college) and I think it matters even more with that sport.

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Sep 3, 2024, 12:30 PM
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All of that is true but there's difference between a roster that's 30 deep vs 40 deep. If player A gets injured or is not cutting it, you need to have a backup option. The blue bloods always have been able to hoard the athletes and the results have shown on the field resulting in the same programs in the championship hunt decade after decade.

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Sep 3, 2024, 12:51 PM
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I can see that. As I said, football is probably different. Players expect depth charts and multiple players at each position. Football digs a little deeper into the roster each game which I’m sure keeps more players engaged and motivated.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:06 AM
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BC uses the portal

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:50 AM
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Yep they whooped FSU FOR 270 rushing yards with an former FSU running back

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Boston College has used the portal heavily.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:16 AM
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2022: 3-9
2023: 7-6
2024: 1-0

It seems to be helping them a lot.

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Mediocre people do not like high achievers....this is you LOL

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:18 AM
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11-15 is good ?

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You dont see the upward trend in their program?

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:20 AM
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This is unfortunately in contrast to our downward trend.

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Mediocre people do not like high achievers....this is you LOL

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:25 AM
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7-6 is better than 5-7 and no bowl LOL

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Re: Boston College has used the portal heavily.

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Sep 3, 2024, 11:10 AM [ in reply to Boston College has used the portal heavily. ]
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Right on que troll!!

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Were happy for Trashuan Ward

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:22 AM
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And Tommy Castelanos and Kye Robicheaux and Khari Johnson and Bryquice Brown and McGowan

This didn’t work out well for you.

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Like taking candy from a baby

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:50 AM
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lol

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What an exceedingly stupid post.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:26 AM
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When in many of our recent losses had portal players who did significant damage to us, including an a$$ kicking this past Saturday.

I bet this poster also defended West, Hatfield, and Bowden.

TU for effort though. Better luck next time.

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Re: What an exceedingly stupid post.

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Sep 3, 2024, 8:37 AM
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Maybe Dabo needs to modify the “Family” model to the Blended Family model. It’s been going on in this country since the Brady Bunch.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 8:46 AM
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No need to be FSU. But we do need to use it

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Are we pretending that BC doesn't use the portal?

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:08 AM
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Their starting QB, leading rusher, and leading receiver last night came from the portal.

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You aren't allowed to mention that.

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Sep 3, 2024, 11:05 AM
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Some of the Dabo cult members here are doing their best to defend this underachieving regime, even if it means avoiding facts.

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Re: Are we pretending that BC doesn't use the portal?


Sep 3, 2024, 12:59 PM [ in reply to Are we pretending that BC doesn't use the portal? ]
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In fact, the leading BC rusher came from FSU.

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Can we talk about the Directv v Disney fiasco?***


Sep 3, 2024, 9:25 AM
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Re: Can we talk about the Directv v Disney fiasco?***


Sep 3, 2024, 10:17 AM
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Just fire Directv already. I did after 20 years and no regrets. Youtube TV or Fubo. You'll be fine as long as you're not using dial-up internet. LOL.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 9:32 AM
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It’s so dishonest when people say stuff like this.

We’ve repeatedly argued for using the portal for 2-4 players each cycle. But you equate that with flipping the entire roster like FSU.

Do better.

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Wait a dadgum minute


Sep 3, 2024, 9:55 AM
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Dabo has tried to use the portal, he said as much. Are you suggesting he was hoping to replace all our starters a la FSU? I mean it’s all or nothing right?

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Yes, Dabo tried, and he wants brownie points for it.***

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 10:10 AM
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This is such a lazy, ridiculous argument…Nono one is saying to bring in 15-20 transfers..but ABSOLUTELY use it where needed..ie qb, receivers

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 11:01 AM
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Good question

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?

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Sep 3, 2024, 11:05 AM
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No one is crying to bring in 20 plus from the portal, only position of need such as OL, DE, and WR. A player with 1 or 2 years of eligibility till our high-school recruit is ready to play. We are not "We too Deep" anymore.

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 11:07 AM
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No just like to have a few for some depth so our arses aren't worn out by the second half like on Saturday.

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Where was this energy when Ward and Miami killed Florida


Sep 3, 2024, 11:10 AM
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In the swamp?

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 12:25 PM
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Wrong comparison. FSU had to use it to rebuild their program. Clemson only needs it to supplement their program. I see 15 enrolls in Alabama, 12 in Georgia, 7 at Ohio St. Are you going to say those programs are failing because of the portal?

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Re: Where are all the portal crybabies this morning?


Sep 3, 2024, 1:05 PM
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I wish I knew what was going through your head when you posted this 😂

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