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Tiger Titan [50648]
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Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:25 PM
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I love Dabo. I want to see him succeed.
I also love Clemson football and want to see it excel.
I don’t have an issue with either.
What I do have an issue with is the outspoken group of you who seem to be so devoted to Dabo and Clemson football that you treat it like a religion, to the point that it is part of your identity and you take it personally if someone disagrees or has an opinion you don’t like.
I hope that helps clear up the ridiculous misconceptions here.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:27 PM
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You don't see the irony in your post?
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:29 PM
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Yea like trying to imagine someone who treats the basketball coach the same way!
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Game Changer [1974]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:30 PM
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Exactly!
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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There is no irony in my post.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:32 PM
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I read many negative posts here about Brad, most of which I don’t respond to. I don’t call people names for disagreeing. And I certainly don’t take it personally if people don’t see things my way.
When I do respond, I try to do so with facts and not emotion. The Dabo cult here should try it sometime when Dabo is questioned or criticized.
Sadly, if aomeone criticizes Dabo and they are an idiot, Moran, Coot, and/or jealous and are discredited.
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Re: There is no irony in my post.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:44 PM
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Well, honestly most are Coot Trolls stirring the pot that push negative Dabo narratives. Sometimes calling someone a Coot is just fun Banter, but there are extremist dor both Dabo and Brad.
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Top TigerNet [29812]
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Interesting. I've seen Dabo criticized on this board frequently.
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Mar 25, 2025, 9:22 PM
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Mainly for his lack of willingness to adapt and use the portal the way most other schools are. I've seen him criticized for being too loyal to players and not "encouraging them to transfer" the way many coaches do. I've seen him criticized for running a poor NIL program and losing recruits because he won't pay anywhere close to market value for true freshmen. I've seen him criticized for being too loyal to Daniel High and giving ships to guys who aren't worthy. I've seen him criticized for poor recruiting in general.
I've even seen it suggested on here that "the game has passed him by" and it is time for him to "seek a second career" outside of coaching.
I seem to recall in a couple of threads where I, a Nole, was one of his chief defenders.
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Re: There is no irony in my post.
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Mar 25, 2025, 9:30 PM
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Now’s not the time to hate on Brad. His program has been on the rise even with lesser talent. I think we need to show support instead of bash and I’m just as pissed about not winning in the tournament. I went to many games this year and supported enough to be upset, but I think Neff sees it and Dabo definitely wants bball to succeed so don’t be surprised if Neff throws a little more $ brads way and Dabo even helps meet these kids and recruits in a way. I’ve heard Brad introduces him as a sales pitch and he should. Football will be apart of their culture here if they attend. But we need some $ and some good transfers asap. The first one needs to be a home run to set the pace for others to join.
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Your under-investment in BB is weird.***
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Re: There is no irony in my post.
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Mar 25, 2025, 10:39 PM
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U take thing very personally. Ur post today about Brad not putting in effort was personal. What are you talking about u don't take it personal? What are u doing on here posting then???
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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I dont think you understand what it means to take something personally.
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Mar 26, 2025, 3:48 PM
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I can assure you I don’t take things here personally.
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Youre full of it (as usual). Youre very sensitive and post as such.***
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Re: There is no irony in my post.
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:12 AM
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There are many negative post on here about Dabo as well. You can go back in the last two seasons and find plenty of post where people wanted to get rid of dabo. Plenty of people have also criticized him for his recruiting, not using the portal, and hiring assistance from inside the program. There's a ton of criticism for Dabo on this board.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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Yes, there have been criticisms of Dabo.
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Mar 26, 2025, 3:50 PM
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And many people here can’t handle it. They flip out and attack the person who said it. It goes way beyond disagreeing, and it’s weird.
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Re: This is you "not calling me names" recently.
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:11 PM
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Stooping low is a bit subjective TBH.
Using a Brian Reagan dumb face gif is almost an act of endearment when used by someone who has also mocked the cancer death of a 15yr old girl and made overtly racist remarks about African Americans.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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Re: This is you
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Mar 26, 2025, 4:05 PM
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Re: This is you "not calling me names" recently.
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Mar 26, 2025, 1:49 PM
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This is part of his schtick. As long as he doesn’t use the exact words “you are stupid”, he claims he never said that. Maybe he thinks that makes him look smarter but everyone here sees through his act. He uses the same approach in his cheap shots at Dabo. Says something that everyone understands then denies it if it isn’t an exact quote. Same tired old schtick.
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Orange Elite [5154]
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Ah. I'm old enough to remember President Clinton.
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Mar 26, 2025, 3:45 PM
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And what you're describing reminds me of him.
"Did you call A1ASauce 'stupid'?"
"No. I posted a gif in direct response to something he said."
"Right. The gif showed a man behaving as someone who might be considered stupid, of low intelligence, simple, unsophisticated. Is that what you were trying to imply?"
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement. … Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you posting this gif in order to call A1ASauce stupid, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.”
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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Orange Elite [5154]
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I dunno. I'm pretty obtuse most days.
Mar 27, 2025, 10:00 AM
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But knowing you disagree just means the world to me.
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Youre a disingenuous liar and a troll. Just like you did here.***
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Now THAT
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:38 PM
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is ironic, Bowel-boy
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Re: Now THAT
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So the sock rebuttal didn't sway you? Ha!
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Dude is beating the odds with that IQ..***
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:31 PM
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Says the Brownell worshipper with the brown nose.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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I dont worship Brownell.
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I think he’s a really good coach and I admire the job he has done. I am also able to acknowledge his shortcomings and have no problem if people disagree.
It’s too bad you don’t allow yourself to see the difference between that and the people who lose their marbles when Paul Finebaum or anyone else sees Dabo differently than they do.
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Hall of Famer [8780]
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What are his shortcomings?***
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Re: What are his shortcomings?***
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Mar 26, 2025, 3:00 PM
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She won't tell you...
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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Here are a couple:
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Mar 26, 2025, 4:03 PM
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1. High school recruiting.
2. Sometimes slow to make in game adjustments.
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All-TigerNet [5601]
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He loses tons of games he shouldnt
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Mar 26, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Like McNeese, just to start the lengthy list.
The elite 8 year was great. Sucks we choked in tournament season this year. A step back for sure.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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I dont worship Brownell.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:34 PM
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I think he’s a really good coach and I admire the job he has done. I am also able to acknowledge his shortcomings and have no problem if people disagree.
It’s too bad you don’t allow yourself to see the difference between that and the people who lose their marbles when Paul Finebaum or anyone else sees Dabo differently than they do.
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TigerNet Elite [76276]
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of course you say that *now* when your worship is indefensible.
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No one believes you.
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And that's one of the problems with social media.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:34 PM
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A person has NO idea of the tone of someone posting. You actually "said" it. You posted that some of you "seem" to be so devoted...
None of us know can read a person by their post.
Go Tigers!
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ironic cult worshiper post is ironic.***
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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You just enjoy conflict and drama. Sad for a grown man. I hope you develop the capability of self awareness and improve yourself. I wish you well.
Judge Keller®
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Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:37 PM
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Some might have simply thoughts regarding an outspoken person who seems to be so devoted to Brownell and Clemson basketball that he treats it like a religion, to the point that it is part of his identity and takes it personally if someone disagrees or has an opinion he doesn’t like.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:37 PM
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This guy is a moron
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and a narcissist.***
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Aren't you outspoken and seem to be so devoted to Brownell?
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Mar 25, 2025, 7:40 PM
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At least Dabo has won something
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Oh, everyone is clear.
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~JKB
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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More tribal ideology that is aimed at creating this false divide of fans. I get it, you need it to survive here. It’s become your identity.
Try dealing with individuals in a conversation for what they specifically say rather than this nonspecific boogeyman “you people” category that you feel you must attack when the opportunity presents itself.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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You should follow your own advice.***
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Re: You should follow your own advice.***
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I do actually.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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“To be clear”, no, nobody had any idea before you cleared that up
You’ve taken a long time to say something like this. And I wonder exactly why you do it now.
I am honest about my opinions of Brad, and don’t try to cover up my past feelings about Brad by clearing anything up
All the negative attacks, just center yourself to what you really feel about Dabo. And learn to keep giving him chances and credit when he comes through.
There’s never been a reason to be so dang critical, he tried some things. He’s a traditional style of coach, and he’s adapting and Clemson is evening out to what they were.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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I have been complimentary of Dabo plenty.
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Mar 26, 2025, 4:18 PM
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Recent examples include rallying the team in 2023 to finish the season strong, hiring Allen as DC, and using the transfer portal.
His decisions to repeatedly hire unqualified and underqualified coaches deserves plenty of criticism. It set our program back for sure. It was way worse than him “just trying some things.” Responding with “he has won two natties” doesn’t excuse such poor decisions.
Thankfully, he seems to have finally learned his lesson. It’s too bad our program had to suffer so much while he figured it out, but to his credit he seems to be adapting. He doesn’t deserve a medal for that, but some of you act like he does - even though that’s his job.
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Re: I have been complimentary of Dabo plenty.
Mar 26, 2025, 6:28 PM
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Perfect example. Your “compliments” of Dabo for using the transfer portal have been sarcastically staged with comments about how he learned to use the portal and NIL from Coach Brownell and, even in this post, that he had to “learn his lesson” before he would use the portal. You lack sincerity and everyone here sees it.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 25, 2025, 8:43 PM
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Nah...You like to bash football due to not liking those fans, because they give you and Brad a hard time.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 26, 2025, 11:14 AM
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Yes, that is exactly the underlying issue.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Projection. Blaming others for thing you are actually doing.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Moreover, if he was a fan of Dabo and Clemson football, he wouldn't let his hatred of the fans to allow himself to attack Dabo and Clemson football needlessly. He isn't a fan. He doesn't mind if Clemson football fails. He would enjoy it.
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You could not be more wrong.***
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Your record speaks for itself.
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Disingenuous troll. That’s about it.
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Sounds like a fat and happy man you are
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You are a man right?
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 25, 2025, 9:46 PM
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Clemson as a brand has been elevated under Dabo. Just like the SEC brands, we want the basketball program to start making progress. They did last year and the regular season of this year. We need to reevaluate Brad after next year to see if he can adjust to be one of the big boys or not.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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No that’s not it at all. I have never, Never seen you criticize Brownell. I have seen you consistently criticize Dabo. Thats my problem. It’s okay if you were a fan of both but rightfully gave criticism to both when warranted. Clearly both coaches deserve criticism because neither are perfect and make plenty of mistakes.
If you have criticized Brownells coaching please go find it and post it. I’ll wait.
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Tiger Titan [50648]
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I was critical of Brad last week.
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I said that our loss to McNeese was inexcusable. Proper adjustments were not made quickly enough. I thought Brad should have done more rather than relying on our senior leaders to step up (they didn’t).
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Re: I was critical of Brad last week.
Mar 27, 2025, 12:35 PM
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I’ll go back and look. I do not recall you calling out Brad. I do sort of remember you talking about the players.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Agreed.
And I would say the same about those that worship other coaches as well.
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And you sir treat Brad Brownell like an object of
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Worship and you constantly bad mouth Dabo. You do. Its obvious. Whether you mean it to make a point or not, you constantly bring Dabo into every conversation to make yourself feel better about your devotion. It’s pathetic. This post is a complete lie when compared to your history. I can go through a list of things that I think Dabo could have done better and can be objective. You cannot. When people have honest discourse, you either try to put people down or block them or both. You are the problem. If you have no insight in to that, I feel sorry for you and your friends and family.
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Paw Warrior [5045]
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Your posts dont support this BS.
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Your continued negative comments regarding football, Dabo, specific players, etc - tell us who and what you really are.
Facts don’t lie - you do.
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Gaslighting again***
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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I’m equally critical of all coaches at Clemson. I get what you’re saying about the Dabo cultists. I got pushback as a fire Goodwin voice. I have ran into them my entire Clemson life. The first and worst was the Hatfield cultist. While I was very vocal about getting him fired and led as the fire Hatfield voices in boaster circles many called me “not a true Clemson fan if you don’t support Hatfield!” I also ran into the same in the fire Bowden push. And the fire Brownell pushes. I have been withholding any extra donations thanks to Brad. Just the Iptay minimum. Granted after the elite 8 run I did give a little extra. I’m waiting to see if that continues.
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 26, 2025, 7:23 AM
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Just so we are clear. I am speaking for myself only. I support all Clemson sports programs and the people who are leading them. It is not my job to pick these leaders or to decide if they are doing their job properly. I am a fan and want to see the teams win. I view my job as a fan to support those out in these roles and the players they put in the court or field.
What I do have an issue with is your constant sniping at the football program and Dabo. You constantly whine that the basketball program doesn’t get the support that football does. You insinuate or flat out say that Dabo isn’t living up to the expectations that accompany his salary. You have said Dabo is stubborn and refuses to use the tools available to him. These are your opinions and while you are entitled to them you react very poorly to anyone who disagrees or who says similar things about Coach Brownell. You do call people names like cultist and you play semantics when you say people have ridiculous misconceptions or stupid opinions. You are very adept at wording things in a way that you can claim you didn’t say it because it is not an exact quote. But you do say it and then you claim that you didn’t. You create your own problems here and they are not misconceptions.
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Varsity [103]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 26, 2025, 9:36 AM
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Not even remotely accurate. I agreed with you on some of your misgivings about Dabo. Said nothing about Brad. Your response was that I was being disrespectful to you.
You most definitely let emotions guide you, and you do not take any objection to your view we’ll.
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TigerNet Elite [69775]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:40 AM
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What I do have an issue with is the outspoken group of you who seem to be so devoted to Dabo and Clemson football that you treat it like a religion, to the point that it is part of your identity and you take it personally if someone disagrees or has an opinion you don’t like.
Just so we are clear ... you may want to consider this wiki article ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
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All-In [11012]
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And yet at every opportunity you take a shot at him or his program.***
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:27 AM
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Legend [6915]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:46 AM
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This thread will make an appearance between Aug and Dec. Book it
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Rival Killer [2944]
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Just curious
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:50 AM
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Is that how you feel about Clemson basketball??
Of course there are outliers, yet feel the majority on here want what’s best for Clemson athletics. The vocal minority can screw the fan bases true reality and perception.
Just feel like we are all in this together.
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CU Guru [1574]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 26, 2025, 11:10 AM
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That's the same thing you do with Brownell in the basketball team.
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COOT***
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Clemson Icon [26207]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:25 AM
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I don't believe you 🙄
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All-TigerNet [5601]
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Nobody believes her and that includes herself.
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Mar 26, 2025, 5:45 PM
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Nothing but hot air.
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Orange Elite [5154]
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I think you may sometimes fail to discern the difference between
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:08 PM
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"taking it personally when someone disagrees with Dabo"
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"calling attention to the fact that Dabo is the best football coach in ACC history, and in Clemson history, and one of the best in college football history, and can thus be given a bit of latitude to tackle problems that arise in the course of a football season."
This is not treating "Dabo and Clemson football like a religion." It's just common sense. Dabo has won rings. Brownell has won games. (Well, usually.)
HTH.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100759]
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No problem here with me JK since
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Mar 26, 2025, 3:37 PM
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I am and always will be a CLEMSON Graduate First, a Tiger FB Fan Second..
and then probably a Clemson MBB Fan Third and Fourthly a Clemson Baseball Fan.
Saying, if Coach Brownell wins zero or 30+ games a season my life will go on and I would be disappointed or happy for him & his squad..
As it would equally be for FB but to be honest I would be very disappointed & a bit downtrodden if the football coach should go 0 out of 12 games and elated if he won 12+ games..
But understand I found the town of Clemson, the College, it’s campus AND the football team all in the same Fall day of 1958 and enrolled a year later..
Thus Clemson means Football to me!
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 26, 2025, 4:12 PM
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Judge K, I am sorry. When I read your comment my sarcasm receptor had been turned-off, so I didn't see the humor in your comment. My BAD. I will read it again, focusing on your sarcasm this time.
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Legend [6915]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 26, 2025, 4:26 PM
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I love Dabo. I want to see him succeed.
I also love Clemson football and want to see it excel.
Also actively worries a win will help Dabo and the program
I'd love to see us go on a deep playoff run, although my concern would be that Dabo would use it as "evidence" that what he's doing is working perfectly. If we have one really good year out of several (i.e., temporary success), how does that make us any better than teams that do the same thing using the transfer portal?
Tell us more about your love for Dabo, Football and the even praise and critique of both programs. Can't wait to see the post where you wonder what negative thing might happen if BBall won an important game
Message was edited by: N0VATiger®
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Legend [6915]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 27, 2025, 11:24 AM
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Waiting on the example where Judge Keller® opined about the negative aspects of BBall winning a big game.
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All-TigerNet [5643]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
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Mar 27, 2025, 11:59 AM
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Its not your business to take down your self perceived "Dabo Cult".
But even if it was, your approach is dead wrong, tearing down the teams performances just to take a shot at Dabo.
We know who you are and your OP is just nonsense.
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Varsity [105]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 27, 2025, 12:22 PM
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That sounds like religion in general
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Varsity [105]
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Re: Just so we are clear.
Mar 27, 2025, 12:26 PM
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That sounds like religion in general
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