Re: I asked a pretty good question in another thread

If I seemed to ask anyone to believe anything on any basis, let me take that back. I don't think I did, and it was not my intention in that answer. All I said was that yours was a very good discussion question, but that it doesn't raise any question about whether or how God exists. If He does exist, by definition no one here would be able to answer how.

You are right that the unexplainable does not point to the explanation. However, as to the origin of life, the issue is not so much what we don't know as what we do. The evolutionary explanation for things is understood down to the cellular level - there are fields of expertise that are that narrow - but all that understanding stops at the point of life beginning, and it stops there because the explanations no longer work. By not work, I mean odds with a denominator greater than the number of atoms in the universe. So, it is not simply a matter of "we don't understand", but that all the seemingly possible explanations we do understand don't work, and as yet there are no theories on the table. Except for the multiverse, which might indeed exist. We'll see.

I am not saying this means God exists. I am pointing out the difficulty in seeing the OP question as suggesting God doesn't exist.

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Just kidding you. They are almost interchangeable terms. We seem to be in agreement that not knowing where a thing came from means nothing about it's existence.

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Jul 21, 2024, 5:43 AM

Our problem is relativity. Everything we know has a lifespan. From a bowl of icecream to our very lives, all have a beginning and an end. Every plant and ever animal. Even the rocks get turned into sand by time. Everything, from the earth, moon and stars have an expiration date.

We are temporal and therefore we examine everything with the assumed conclusion that it everything has a beginning and an end. We do this because the age old killer of all that we encounter in this world are limited by time. That is because time governs ultimately because of the very definition of time.

My simple definition for time is the repeated occurrences of physical event which happen in equal intervals. There are greater and lesser definitions but with a few examples this meets logic and reason.

Some of the physical events are years which are measured by rotation of the earth around the sun. Days, the rotation of the earth upon its axis...a heartbeat and other basic natural occurrences. Ultimately the movement of some sub atomic particles such as the repeated paths of electrons around the nucleus of an atom. Perhaps even the components of the protons or neutrons measure time.

Time, in our concept is relative to physical events.

God is not a physical being. He is not relative to time, time is relative to Him. He existed before time for He is eternal. He will exist after all physical events end.

Relax, I don't comprehend eternity either and neither does anyone else. We have terms which set our minds to ease about this concept. We say infinite as if we comprehend the infinite, we say eternal as if we know how long that is. We don't. Our minds are too small.

The more educated and intelligent man becomes the more we struggle with these concepts. Infinite, eternal, everlasting and such terms are deal with by faith. Even the greatest mind can not comprehend. We just believe that if others define something as infinite we settle our minds by believing it by faith for we can not comprehend it. Anyone who claims they can is a liar and things those who believe him are fools.

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