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Playmaker [364]
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Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 7:45 PM
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Had hope on him, but there are no players anymore not after money
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 7:49 PM
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Their are some not after money but most of the top players know they can get huge money and set up their family.
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Valley Protector [1464]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:04 PM
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Agreed the family atmosphere and stuff will only go so far In today’s age of big money recruiting. We will need to start offering the money that’s atleast competive and then the facilities and atmosphere will be what puts us over the top if we offering decent amounts. Need out of ACC and get into a more profitable conference or we will be left behind! But I love the Tigers no matter conference so Go Tigers!!!
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Orange Blooded [2460]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 7, 2024, 8:58 PM
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If we were to join either sec or big 10, that does nothing for nil. The university, itself, cannot fund nil. It has to be through donors and outside business. We face a lack of money from donors and business entities.
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 11:12 PM
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If you are not going to work with a NIL fund to facilitate a NIL payment to a HS recruit , it doesn't matter how much the funds have or don't have. The schools can be the athlete's agent to get the athlete the money.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59956]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 9:11 PM
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So, what are you suggesting that Dabo do? Quit and tell the admin that it would better to close down the FB program. Or should with all those really smart people at Clemson to figure out, look for a loop hole around the NIL that will help to bring Clemson up level ground with the schools that have more NIL donations that they know what to do with, it is those folks that are driving up the price to retain some of the best players in the country.
IMO, the athletic department should find and retain some of the best legal minds in the country, and bring a suit against the NCAA and force them to get a hold on the NIL in a way that will make all D1 schools to be on the very same level where it concerns NIL money. There is a way for it to be done, but somebody has to take that step to force them to do whatever it takes to make the NIL for every D1 school before they allow it to completely destroy college sports bc that is exactly where it's heading at this very minute. That is where it was heading the moment the NIL was made legal for college athletes to ask for...
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MVP [529]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 7, 2024, 10:27 PM
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ahhh..if there is a loophole that the "legal minds" find in the NIL, wouldn't it apply for everyone to use and any advantages gained equal to a net zero gain for Clemson? Just asking.
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Ring of Honor [21823]
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David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:09 PM
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Dabo Swinney has ensured financial security for his family for generations, yet he expects recruits, many of whom come from less privileged backgrounds, to disregard financial considerations in their decisions.
It’s hypocritical to demand these young athletes ignore NIL deals when we all know we'd make the same choice in their position.
David dropping us over this makes perfect sense, and it's frustrating to see people criticize him for it.
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Clemson Conqueror [11171]
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
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I respect his choice and Dabo's way of doing things as well.
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Ring of Honor [21823]
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That's fine.
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:15 PM
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But expecting Clemson to compete in this way? I say pay the coach on a per-win or a combination of per-win and per-graduation rate. You know, capitalism.
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Clemson Conqueror [11171]
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Re: That's fine.
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:40 PM
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We will see what happens. I like the direction we are going. We will see how it pans out over the next 3 years. We will know a lot more over that time period. Too early to tell right now.
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Re: That's fine.
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:43 PM
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Best idea I have heard yet in regards to nil.
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Re: That's fine.
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Jul 7, 2024, 9:56 PM
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You’re describing merit pay.
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Re: That's fine.
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Jul 7, 2024, 10:11 PM
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If you really value capitalism then pay him a percentage of every dollar he has contributed to our bottom line. Compared to that, we are getting a bargain.
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Orange Blooded [2172]
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Re: That's fine.
Jul 7, 2024, 10:17 PM
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I think Dabo and others are already attached to those metrics financially in the form of bonuses.
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Solid Orange [1375]
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Re: That's fine.
Jul 8, 2024, 7:17 AM
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People who keep throwing around the word capitalism have no idea how capitalism actually works.
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Game Changer [1685]
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Re: That's fine.
Jul 9, 2024, 1:13 PM
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Now if you can get the NIL money to based upon the athlete's winning for the school (they were recruited by)...that's a whole different story.
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:37 PM
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You need to learn a little about Dabo's past before making this claim. He wasn't born into money... he earned it.
I support Dabo 100%, and I think anyone should have to earn rewards. My opinion...
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Paw Master [17785]
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thats fine but he shouldnt whine and question
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Jul 7, 2024, 9:02 PM
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peoples fandoms when they point out how he is running the team into the ground because he refuses to get with the times.
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
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Jul 7, 2024, 9:41 PM
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You need to learn a little about Dabo's past before making this claim. He wasn't born into money... he earned it.
I support Dabo 100%, and I think anyone should have to earn rewards. My opinion...
You are correct in what you say but given Dabos background coming out of high school...he was poor...family not good...he loved Bama, was a fan all of his life...
Given all of that ... i can almost guarantee you that if at that time in his life, Bama said walk on and we will see what happens ..: and then Auburn said we will give you a full ride and give your mom an apartment if you come play for us...well ... he would have went to Auburn!!!
This isnt easy to figure out in all honesty!!! Right or wrong is irrelevant at this point...everyone needs to look out for themselves because nobody else it going to!!! Dabo would have made the same choice as an 18 year old in his situation at the time!!!
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Paw Master [17785]
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i pull for clemson not the dabos***
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Athletic Dir [1120]
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I would make the same decision as Sanders
Jul 7, 2024, 9:04 PM
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I understand Clemson pitching family and development, but If can get that plus $400K up front from other schools then Clemson isn’t going to be my choice.
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Orange Blooded [2460]
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
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You're going to compare Dabo to someone just out of h.s.???? You're saying that someone with minimal experience, basically a few years playing football, compares to the experience and knowledge of someone who has been involved for decades, playing and coaching????? You, sir, are distinctly lacking in mental acuity. You would pay a trainee the same as the CEO of a company. LMFAO. Paying these kids this way, is part of the delusion that is destroying these kids integrity. They start believing the hype before they actually put in any work and then get agitated when they cannot fulfill the promise.
But, I'm sure you also believe that someone flipping burgers should be paid $20/hr....same as a police officer or teacher
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
Jul 7, 2024, 9:14 PM
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I think Dabo came from poverty or near poverty and he earned what he's making based on performance. That's his stance with paying recruits up front- earn it and you'll get it.
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Dynasty Maker [3385]
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Re: Man would you just stop.
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Jul 7, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Exactly
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Clemson Conqueror [11843]
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Re: David absolutely should not consider Clemson. Smart man.
Jul 8, 2024, 3:14 PM
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Absolutely no one is telling our recruits to ignore NIL deals. We are just not assuring them of deals before they plays. If someone wants to offer big money on behalf of Clemson, I don’t think we are telling them not to.
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Clemson Conqueror [11171]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:10 PM
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I am absolutely shocked.
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Campus Hero [14030]
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The $$$$ excuse is already getting very old
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:15 PM
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Every time a recruit doesn't choose Clemson, 90% of the posts are about how he's only interested in the money.
We lost plenty of recruits before NIL - it's certainly not the only reason every one of these guy aren't coming to Clemson. Even if it were, I could do without a lot of the criticism being directed towards them.
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Orange Elite [5134]
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However, in this case....o
Jul 7, 2024, 8:27 PM
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it WAS abt the $$$
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Clemson Conqueror [11171]
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Re: However, in this case....o
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:43 PM
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Plus, there are other great universities as well. I bet 95% of the people on this board who are alumni would have gone somewhere else other than Clemson if offered a half million to go to another solid university.
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Paw Master [17785]
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i would most def tell my son
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Jul 7, 2024, 8:51 PM
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to choose a school willing to pay him top dollar and at the same time and get prepared for the nfl. dabo doesnt get that aspect . we will be celebrating 9-3 seasons as great years before long with his philosophy. rather he likes it or not kids now days can make money playing college ball
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Re: The $$$$ excuse is already getting very old
Jul 7, 2024, 8:43 PM
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David sanders made statements why not earn the money you can get and also get developedfpf next level. It was about the money. He said he could get developerd at Clemson but wasn’t offered any money
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Re: The $$$$ excuse is already getting very old
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In this case, why would Nebraska be under consideration based on their performance the past few years for a young man from Charlotte if it wasn't about money? The other 3 schools have been winning and/or have plenty of NIL money.
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Paw Master [17785]
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until dabo gets over his ego we will struggle to get top guys
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it is what it is.
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Clemson Conqueror [11171]
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Re: until dabo gets over his ego we will struggle to get top guys
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We are getting some top guys.
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Re: until dabo gets over his ego we will struggle to get top guys
Jul 8, 2024, 10:02 AM
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The sky is not falling. Clemson will win another National Championship in the next couple of years and when they do what’s the narrative going to be then?
GO TIGERS!
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Clemson Conqueror [11364]
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Is he a bad kid because money played a factor??
Jul 7, 2024, 9:15 PM
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Honestly, I don’t blame him if it did.
I’m sure Dabo could’ve landed him if he really wanted.
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National Champion [7416]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 7, 2024, 9:24 PM
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That 2026 OL is looking highly suspect. Matt Luke has to work miracles in development and through the portal.
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World is Secular & religious a little bit still..
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Jul 7, 2024, 9:53 PM
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And Dabo the man & coach is Religious and not secular..
So go with the flow Or pull for another college football team, if need to for man-made glory.
Go TiGERS & DABo~
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Orange Blooded [2109]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 8, 2024, 4:49 AM
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$$$$$$$$
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 8, 2024, 7:14 AM
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We use nil to keep players but not to buy them. This gives those willing to pay them before they play a down for you a big advantage. Another reason we are falling behind a bit in recruiting.
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Game Changer [1685]
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Re: Clemson not in David Sandars final 4
Jul 9, 2024, 1:21 PM
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DavidHood® Do you have any inside rumors on this?
I think that it's odd (well that Nebraska is in the mix, that's a lot of corn) but that the date for commitment is set so far out. I was trying to see if that might be a significant date (like his birthday), but the other part of me is wondering if he's not putting it 6 weeks out to see if any offer$ amend.
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