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How much is a 5 star recruit these days nil wise
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How much is a 5 star recruit these days nil wise

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:04 PM

Anyone know?

QB going for what 8 million for 4 years? How is the deal structured?

How about OL like Sanders at UT what is his nil worth? 5 million?

What about a 4 star are they at 1 million a year????

Anybody in the know on nil drop some knowledge in this post. TIA

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:08 PM

Whatever it is we can’t afford them. Apparently we can’t even afford to outbid Duke and GT.

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:25 PM

No offense but for the Trilliontime yes we can afford them. We have been paying players for years. The money is there. The will to make needed changes is not

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Nov 24, 2024, 11:32 PM



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Nov 25, 2024, 6:37 AM [ in reply to Re: How much is a 5 star recruit these days nil wise ]

We lost Blake Hebert to ND because the offered him 500k. We offered 250k. He’s a 3 star unproven QB. I have no qualms with that. W lost Tae Harris because GT offered him 350k. I think David Hood said that was 100k more than we offered. He’s a 4 star safety. Maybe I’m crazy but offering an unproven safety almost half a million dollars is kind of ridiculous.

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Nov 25, 2024, 6:54 AM

I agree, but that's the market nowadays, and that's what you have to pony up to sign those players.

Let's say you need your house painted, but so does everyone else in your neighborhood. You think $15 an hour is fair, but all your neighbors are willing to pay $25 an hour. You can ##### and moan all you want that $25 an hour is too much, but those painters are going to work for the people paying $25. You can think it's ridiculous, but at the end of the year, you're not going to have your house painted.

It is no different here. The price of a top safety is apparently $350k nowadays. I think that's a lot, but we have to pay it if we want those players. The alternative is to go after 2 stars and 3 stars who are worth a lot less money, and hope we can find players that all other coaches and recruiting services were wrong about. I'll tell you that that's incredibly unlikely and that other than Renfrow and to a smaller extent Etienne, all of our stars during our dominant streak were blue chip recruits.

I don't buy into the "unproven" argument. Dabo and his staff receive about $20 million dollars. They better be able to evaluate high school talent to figure out which of these players are good and which are not.

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this is what fans standing on their moral high ground w/ Dabo tend to forget....

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Nov 25, 2024, 6:52 AM [ in reply to Re: How much is a 5 star recruit these days nil wise ]

players have always been paid...........Everywhere........even at clemson while Dabo's been here, before it was "legal". Now that it's "legal" Dabo wants to take some sort of holier than thou portal/NIL stance. Makes no sense.

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:09 PM

SI reported Underwood is getting at least 10M over 4 years for committing to Michigan...

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:10 PM

Still looking but found this, interesting we are not on it……. Not sure source is reliable

https://www.reddit.com/r/SECPigskin/comments/1aw0uyk/2024_nil_power_rankings_based_on_2024_athletes/?rdt=48063

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:12 PM

Here is what you are looking for by position, better more mainstream source…

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/nil-money-ncaa.html

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:15 PM
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A few charts from the last one

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and that 3rd chart is why the SEC is just going to get whoever they want

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:49 AM

and if they don't get them out of high school they'll get them to transfer at some point. They're on ESPN's payroll too so they'll do the marketing for them and then pump them all up with money year in and year out. And I don't see them wanting to share with anyone else so I"m not sure the other schools want anymore mouths to feed. So I think FSU and Clemson are on their own. College sports is just screwd up now. ITs basically an auction from year to year.

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Nov 24, 2024, 10:15 PM

When you pay David Sanders 1 million per year, the other starters on the offensive line want 1 million apiece. Then the second string guys want pretty serious money cause there’s a 50-50 chance David Sanders doesn’t start a lot of games for UT this coming year.

Then the starting D linemen want 1 million apiece. They don’t want to get paid 200,000 a year when they’re going up against a guy in practice every day that’s getting 1 million a year; that wouldn’t make sense.

So you could end up spending 9 million per year for five starting offensive lineman and four starting defensive lineman. Then you gotta have some depth also.

Then you gotta have some difficult conversations when the four-star lineman doesn’t turn out as expected and the three star lineman turns out to be a stud. Gotta adjust their pay.

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:34 AM

I agree.

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Re: No one has accurate data any website listed here is a waste of time***

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Nov 25, 2024, 6:06 AM

Truth. Bagmen’s collective’s will never be brought to light. Nothing they can do about and no need to bring it up for the NCAA to see. Go ahead and report the Chipotle deals and the ones that makes any sense but the rest of it just collect your funds, flip who you want and move on.

Not competing with the OSU’s and Oregon’s of the world. It is what it is. All money. Collect the most and buy your needed roster.

All those being surprised with losing recruits needs to understand the landscape. 5 years ago maybe a few of our former recruits would have thought about Duke or GT and that would have had more to do with getting immediate playing time. Times have changed.

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Nov 24, 2024, 11:27 PM

I thought NIL payments over a certain amt had to be reported to the ncaa and it was public knowledge.

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Nov 25, 2024, 6:57 AM

LOL. We paid players when you weren't supposed to pay players at all. So did all schools. Do you think reporting rules, if they exist at all, would stop anyone?

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Whatever the free market says.

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Nov 24, 2024, 11:28 PM

See Adam Smith's invisible hand.

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Re: Whatever the free market says.

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Nov 25, 2024, 6:50 AM


See Adam Smith's invisible hand.


^ this. Free market minus regulations = no ceiling except what people want to spend.

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Re: Whatever the free market says.

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:10 AM

If NIL was everything then LSU, FSU, and OK would be undefeated, which is not the case. And these coaches may face extinction just as coach "O", Jimbo, and other flame outs have in the past.
There is added value with "Dabo, the coach," "Clemson, the place," and graduation rates that smart future recruits and their families should factor in.
I suggest a reading or rereading of "Money Ball." This is how smaller markets compete, and win.

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:04 AM

if everyone is being paid, why are ex-nfl excluded

why are the number of years of eligibility restricted

expand the pool of available players and the cost will drop, maybe even will play for a scholarship

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:26 AM



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Re: How much is a 5 star recruit these days nil wise

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Nov 25, 2024, 8:39 AM

Are taxes deducted from these payments or does the school just send them a 1099 for the payments? Has to be reported to the IRS surely.

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